Iteration Of Radio APPO Transcript
29oct06 thru 2nov06

Permanentated by marco.

Translation team: 

acracia, bossa, brie, fierman, gaba, gus, jazz, luna, mahtin, 
mexicatl_, pseudo, sharpie, stacy, sub, sweeper, thibautcho, 
toya, yuri...

Did I 4-get any-1? 

Please comment.


--- Log opened Sun Oct 29 20:40:47 2006
20:43 < kry> ciao
20:43 < Tubia87> ciao kry
20:44 <@Tubia87> ma è un channel nato or ora?
20:44 <@Tubia87> kry potevi aprire anche un altra finestra in xchat
20:44 <@Tubia87> :p
20:46 < luna_> hola
20:47 < luna_> salvador guerrilla hymn
20:52 <@kry> the audio from the radio is not so good
20:52 <@lupa_> university rector is talking
20:52 <@kry> ok
20:53 <@luna_> sorry had a call
20:53 <@luna_> !back
20:53 <@luna_> we salute your compromise with peace, democracy and the state of eaxaca
20:53 <@yuri> !i couldn't hear what he said.
20:53 <@luna_> he has just gven a statement on his position 
20:54 <@luna_> if and when the police move in
20:54 <@luna_> there is one person injured
20:54 <@luna_> please
20:54 <@luna_> they are in hacienda blanca
20:54 <@lupa_> injured by 50 polices
20:54 <@luna_> pfp enrtering via san jacinto
20:55 <@luna_> there are agent provocateurs
20:55 <@luna_> they ask for the barricades to let them thru
20:55 <@luna_> the beat him
20:55 <@luna_> kicked him
20:55 <@luna_> and used batond
20:55 <@luna_> batons
20:56 <@luna_> saying that the man was walking and people threw stones
20:56 <@luna_> which provocked the cops beating him
20:56 <@luna_> pfp who where advancing thu river
20:56 <@luna_> where stopped by lorries overturned
20:57 <@luna_> and are now throwing stones at people
20:57 <@luna_> because they can get thru
20:57 <@luna_> violence and water, gas
20:57 <@luna_> somewhere
20:57 <@luna_> fortaleza
20:57 <@yuri> !the pfp is throwing stones at people?
20:58 <@luna_> ferrocarril going to banamiel
20:58 <@luna_> asking people if water canon is just water or has acid
20:58 < mexicatl_> !the pfp did the same thing to us in cancun
20:58 <@luna_> just water
20:58 <@luna_> !yes police are throwing stones
20:58 <@luna_> police are advancing by the river side
20:58 <@luna_> in some points cops have broken off in smaller groups 
20:59 <@luna_> advancing towards zocalo
20:59 <@lupa_> (rivera del altoyas A6 (in the last map) ) 
20:59 <@luna_> thet are asking people to be careful, resist and peaceful
20:59 <@luna_> if police get thru
20:59 <@luna_> thay must be sorrounded
20:59 <@luna_> and prevented from moving
20:59 <@luna_> do this peacefully
21:00 < leo> what is the email of the radio?
21:00 < leo> what is the email of the radio?
21:00 <@luna_> they might invade our city but never our hearts
21:00 <@Tubia87> leo do not spam here ask in #indymedia
21:00 <@luna_> the demos is moving towards the university
21:01 <@luna_> if police take posession of zocalo
21:01 <@luna_> encircle them there
21:01 <@luna_> caller:
21:01 <@luna_> reamain calmed
21:01 <@luna_> people are angry that compa got beaten
21:01 <@luna_> and started to throw stones at cops
21:01 <@luna_> dont take rocks or sticks
21:02 <@luna_> or hell will break thru
21:02 <@luna_> break loose
21:02 <@luna_> stay calmed
21:02 <@luna_> !!! they are sure they are resisting effectivly with peacefull tacktics
21:02 <@luna_> talking to the demo
21:03 <@luna_> listening
21:03 <@yuri> ! that's true. spirit of gandhi!
21:03 <@luna_> you need to come to building that hosts the radio 
21:03 <@luna_> the strategy is to encircle the police
21:03 <@luna_> and then go to the university
21:03 <@lupa_> ("El llano" D3 in the map)
21:03 <@luna_> that is what the demo is going to do
21:04 <@luna_> encircle cops in zocalo
21:04 <@luna_> then keep people there and the rest move to university
21:05 <@yuri> !what's demo?!
21:05 <@luna_> people in barricades that look like are not useful anymore, leave them 
21:05 <@luna_> demonstration
21:05 <@luna_> manifestation
21:05 <@luna_> dem/mani
21:06 <@luna_> !there is a large demonstration going on in the city at the same time as 
the police is moving in / or is already in control of some areas /or is trying to break 
in thru other places
21:07 <@luna_> ! the mass demo is "dropping" people in strategic places
21:07 <@luna_> !! as they go
21:07 <@luna_> march is in el llano
21:07 <@luna_> soon will get to zocalo
21:07 <@luna_> the to university
21:07 <@luna_> there are 3 hellicopters
21:07 <@luna_> over the city
21:07 <@luna_> one of them has snipers
21:08 <@luna_> and is the one that is flying really low
21:08 <@luna_> police will balackavas
21:08 <@luna_> armed are breaking into houses
21:08 <@luna_> 3 detain in simbolos patrios
21:08 <@luna_> calling the lawyers to get on the case
21:09 <@luna_> ok
21:09 <@luna_> ! that was repots that cops in balaclavas are breaking into houses and registering
21:09 <@luna_> "registering"
21:09 <@steev> registering?
21:09 <@luna_> dressed in grey in the aleman neighbourhood
21:09 <@luna_> alert
21:09 <@luna_> !going thru everything
21:10 <@luna_> four arrested
21:10 <@luna_> mario pineda de jesus
21:10 <@luna_> !! this para cerezo
21:10 <@luna_> 1st of december
21:10 <@luna_> we are not going to allow this
21:10 <@luna_> we call for popular insurrection
21:11 <@luna_> peacefull popular insurrection nation wide
21:11 <@luna_> we know that the elections where rigged
21:11 <@luna_> so we are not going to allow the country to fall in the hands of calderon
21:12 <@luna_> fox/calderon police is in our city, arrenting our people and errupting in our houses
21:12 <@luna_> dressed in grey covering their faces with hoods
21:12 <@luna_> call for people not to go to the demo drunk
21:13 <@luna_> 2 navi panther hellicopters are flying over the city
21:13 <@luna_> we'd like to ask the army
21:13 <@luna_> who are you supposed to protect?
21:13 <@luna_> your people
21:13 <@luna_> !your people
21:13 <@luna_> everyone go to zocalo
21:13 <@luna_> everyone to zocalo
21:14 <@luna_> this is where we will have the biggest resistance confrontation
21:14 <@luna_> then come to university comples
21:14 <@luna_> complex
21:14 <@luna_> compa?eros
21:14 <@luna_> this is nothing new
21:14 <@luna_> we knew that at the end they'd use the army
21:15 <@luna_> cuz they know thay are wrong
21:15 <@luna_> we will resist till the end
21:15 <@luna_> power is trying to break the oices that demand freedom and want to break all yokes
21:15 <@luna_> we must use intelligence
21:16 <@luna_> and go zoc and uni
21:16 <@luna_> we knwo they will not hold it for long
21:16 <@luna_> we will resist and recover our zocalo
21:16 <@luna_> we will resist the attack of ulises r and calderon
21:16 <@luna_> love park
21:16 <@luna_> gas
21:16 <@luna_> thrown
21:17 <@luna_> and are tryng to advance from there too
21:17 <@luna_> two main points 
21:17 <@luna_> part of the demo must go surround, peacefully the police in zocalo
21:17 <@luna_> the other must come to the university
21:17 <@luna_> everyone, once the police is in zocalo
21:18 <@luna_> people holding barricades in the ourskirts
21:18 <@luna_> please consider whether you ought to leave it and move to zoca and univ
21:18 <@luna_> think about it
21:18 <@luna_> to everyone
21:18 <@luna_> we just heard
21:18 <@luna_>  that the gruas
21:19 <@luna_> we must break those machine
21:19 <@luna_> machiens
21:19 <@luna_> machines
21:19 <@luna_>  those machines have a lid to one side
21:19 <@luna_> if you dare
21:19 <@luna_> open that lid 
21:20 <@luna_> and throw some sand or sugar inside it
21:20 <@luna_> we must resist
21:20 <@luna_> these are the machines that are being used to remove our barricades
21:20 <@luna_> a call out to international press
21:20 <@luna_> the pfp came in thru 20 of november stret
21:21 <@luna_> NOT busatamante
21:21 <@luna_> !! he might be talkingt to you lupa
21:21 <@luna_> house by house
21:21 <@luna_> have vineger and watert at hand
21:22 <@luna_> mustard gass wil burn your skin
21:22 <@luna_> cover your skin
21:22 <@luna_> have vinegar, milk, flour and.... a brand name from hell
21:22 <@luna_> my husband was arested
21:23 <@luna_> and i want to know what is ging to happen to him
21:23 <@changsing> !! coke (ops)
21:23 <@luna_> how was he arrested
21:23 <@luna_> !bastard!
21:23 <@luna_> we have no esperience about defending ourselves
21:23 <@luna_> and got in an alley and someone started to shout
21:23 <@luna_> then the police took us...
21:24 <@luna_> !!! that was a shit trans
21:25 <@luna_> can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!can someone take over?
21:25 <@luna_> !!!!this
21:26 <@yuri> the translation?
21:26 < faradAW> Hi! Anyone have logged the transcript posted in #radioappo?
21:29 <@sub> they simply insist on being non violent
21:30 <@sub> they talk about the coming in the street in nostro signore
21:30 <@sub> of suspect people
21:30 <@sub> that nobody saw on the barricades
21:30 <@sub> they ask to identify and avoid those guys
21:31 <@sub> damn
21:31 <@sub> my stream is skipping
21:32 <@yuri> its back.
21:32 <@gus> back
21:32 <@sub> do non provoke the police
21:33 <@lupa_> (possible demostration way: http://lupa.homelinux.com/marcha_aprox.gif )
21:33 <@sub> when they will be inside
21:33 <@sub> the people will surround them
21:35 <@sub> they insist on saying that there are people on the name of the ppopular assembly
21:35 <@sub> that could provoke the police to allow the police to react violently
21:36 <@luna_> cerezo	la marcha lleg al zocalo
21:36 <@luna_> 	cerezo	la pfp se retiro a la plaza de la danza
21:36 <@luna_> the march reached zocalo
21:36 <@luna_> police leave to plaza de la danza
21:37 <@luna_>  http://lupa.homelinux.com/marcha_aprox.gif 
21:37 < Paique> hola
21:37 <@sub> invite to all the people next to the police
21:37 <@sub> to give updates
21:37 < Paique> yo soy de indymedia brasil
21:37 <@yuri> paÃ, aqui é só tradução
21:37 <@sub> 2 civilian that were demonstrating
21:37 <@sub> were taken
21:40 <@sub> i can't understand
21:40 <@lupa_> there is someone talking from de mani
21:40 <@luna_> demo moves to the university?
21:40 <@luna_> radio askes
21:40 <@lupa_> its difficult to hear
21:40 <@sub> there are people next to the radio
21:41 <@luna_> are you coming here?
21:41 <@sub> that are coming from the march
21:41 <@luna_> we are many
21:41 <@luna_> we look everywhere
21:41 <@luna_> people are wired up
21:41 <@luna_> in zocalo
21:41 <@luna_> there are people everywhere
21:41 <@luna_> we are going you way
21:41 <@luna_> this is the answer of th epople 
21:41 <@luna_> against the state
21:42 <@luna_> well done to old the grannies and gran parents
21:42 <@sub> ....retoric.....
21:42 <@sub> ups
21:42 <@luna_> for talking the streets with their placards
21:42 <@luna_> in peace
21:42 <@luna_> and joining
21:42 <@luna_> police shooting gas
21:42 <@luna_> in parque de amor
21:42 <@sub> tear gas in park de lo amor
21:43 <@luna_> police are breaking in the houses
21:43 <@sub> ok luna i switch to another channel
21:43 <@luna_> no doubt leaving weapons inside
21:43 <@luna_> wo accuse...
21:43 <@luna_> we have a call from the square
21:43 <@luna_> !can undersn
21:43 <@luna_> gas
21:43 <@luna_> tear gas
21:43 <@luna_> the police 
21:43 <@luna_> violence
21:43 <@luna_> ! it is the same caller than before
21:44 <@luna_> coughing
21:44 <@luna_> !! she was so high a minute ago. killers
21:44 <@luna_> radio
21:44 <@luna_> retrieve
21:44 <@luna_> that is the tacktic
21:44 <@luna_> lets not have phisical contact
21:44 <@luna_> andkeep a wider circle around them
21:45 <@luna_> keep encircled
21:45 <@luna_> mustard gas
21:45 <@luna_> come to the university and there are other places to go and avoid agression is
21:45 <@luna_> another building in the universty
21:45 <@luna_> also use churches
21:46 <@luna_> their doors are being openened
21:46 <@sub> the building in the university is the faculty of law
21:46 <@luna_> ! most people 've never one this before
21:46 <@luna_> avoid contact with the violent police
21:47 <@luna_> remember 
21:47 <@luna_> they are an occupation force in our city
21:47 <@luna_> buut can occupy our heads
21:47 <@luna_> we wont allow the tyrant ulises ruiz or anyoner tyrant
21:47 <@luna_> to do this to us again
21:48 <@luna_> they are beating our people in zocalo and other places
21:48 <@sub> the aggression is in course 
21:48 <@luna_> now people are coming to our buildig radio universidad
21:48 < mahtin> they are calling for it to be a convergence point
21:49 <@luna_> !they are strong in niversity grounds
21:49 <@luna_> !!special laws apply
21:49 <@luna_> ! and there are many people there too
21:49 <@luna_> !already
21:49 <@luna_> !!this is one poit
21:49 <@luna_> radio
21:49 <@luna_> from the march
21:49 <@luna_> live
21:49 <@luna_> we do a call for calm
21:50 <@luna_> lets movilise but keep calm
21:50 <@luna_> dont answer to provocation
21:50 <@luna_> show we are a peacefull movement
21:50 <@luna_> police has made arrest
21:50 <@luna_> and beaten people
21:50 <@luna_> this is a call to advance peacefully
21:51 <@luna_> house searches continue
21:51 <@luna_> we ask people to ring in with info
21:51 <@luna_> what houses, who is arrested
21:52 <@luna_> one of my  relatives has been arrested... thank you
21:52 <@luna_> this is the situation in oaxaca 
21:52 <@luna_> we call for all of the people to concentrate massively in the univ
21:53 <@luna_> @stream is down
21:53 < mahtin> yep
21:54 < fierman> not down, problems with buffering to relay streams
21:54 <@acracia> down
21:54 <@sub> do they stream also somewhere else?
21:55 <@gus> BACK!
21:55 < fierman> enable 'repeat' option in your media player to pick up broken streams again
21:55 <@gus> ITS BACK
21:55 <@sub> the zocalo is taken
21:55 <@sub> so converge to the radio
21:56 <@luna_> an explosion
21:56 <@luna_> probably from the paramilitaries
21:56 <@sub> they cut the light to th epeople in calle del rosario
21:57 <@luna_> people in the demo are being gassed and beaten from the front 
21:57 <@luna_> but can move cuz people at the back dont undersnad what is happening
21:58 <@luna_> call to open the back of the march and go to the university building
21:58 <@sub> yes
21:58 <@sub> also to allow those in the front to retire
22:01 <@thibautcho> french press agency told that 12 cops from pfp are taken in hostage
22:02 <@Anna> url?
22:02 <@thibautcho> Mexique-violence-Oaxaca
22:02 <@thibautcho> OAXACA (Mexique), 29 oct 2006 (AFP) - 20:02
22:02 <@thibautcho> Douze militaires retenus par des manifestants à Oaxaca
22:02 <@thibautcho> http://www.afp.fr/francais/news/?pid=ticker
22:03 < difusion> hola compañeros  
22:03 < difusion> nuestra solidaridad y apoyo ala appo y alos maestros de la seccion 22
22:03 <@luna_> call to leave the streets and go to university
22:04 <@luna_> !hola
22:04 <@luna_> a bus with the logo of the university
22:04 <@luna_> full off paramilitaries
22:04 < mahtin> 1 bus 
22:04 <@luna_> is going around the city
22:04 <@luna_> one coach
22:04 <@luna_> university coach
22:05 <@luna_> this is how sometimes the paramilitaries operate
22:05 <@luna_> probably they highjacked it
22:05 <@luna_> but perhaps someone in power inside the university 
22:05 <@luna_> gave permission for this
22:06 <@luna_> as some people are not supporters of appo
22:06 <@luna_> two helicopters
22:06 <@luna_> trying to see the area
22:06 <@luna_> in order to break into the university 
22:07 <@yuri> dois helicópteros da PFP está sobrevoando a área da universidade para que possam invadi-la
22:07 <@luna_> recognising the ground in order to direct cops towards the police
22:07 <@luna_> towards the uni
22:07 <@luna_> call for people at the back of the demo
22:07 <@luna_> to open up
22:07 <@luna_> as people in the front cant avoid being gassed and beaten, 
22:08 <@luna_> as they cant move out of the way fat enough
22:08 <@luna_> fast
22:08 <@luna_> puente technologico
22:08 <@luna_> 4 tanks
22:08 <@luna_> one turned around
22:08 <@luna_> hellicopter checking how they are going to go in the city from that side
22:09 <@luna_> crossing the river
22:09 <@luna_> two important points
22:09 <@luna_> zocalo
22:09 <@luna_> and the radio
22:09 <@luna_> !and the fucking bridges?
22:09 <@luna_> appo
22:09 <@luna_> informs
22:10 <@luna_> people are staying in zocalo for a while, have a quick meeting
22:10 <@luna_> and then move towards the university
22:10 <@thibautcho> how much people are on oaxaca ?
22:10 <@luna_> political heart in zocalo
22:10 <@luna_> resisting the police
22:11 <@luna_> then it is important to reinforce people in zocalo
22:11 < sharpie> Nancy Davies reports only 200 ppl in the zocalo
22:11 <@luna_> so that the meeting can take place
22:11 <@luna_> !!which is tricky with the police beating the front of the demo in zocalo
22:12 <@luna_> radio there are loads of people in zocalo
22:12 <@luna_> lets have te meeting
22:12 <@luna_> resist
22:12 < sharpie> 200 is a lot in my mind :)
22:12 <@luna_> this is a historical day
22:12 <@luna_> for oaxaca, mexico and the world
22:12 <@luna_> show the streght of the people
22:13 <@luna_> never have we seen such police movilistation agaisnt a mass popular movement 
22:13 <@luna_> like ours
22:13 <@luna_> it is too difficult to hold a meeting in zocalo
22:13 <@luna_> companyeros move over to guerrero street
22:13 <@luna_> bridge
22:13 <@luna_> reprt from brige
22:13 <@luna_> tanks
22:14 <@luna_> 50m away from bridge
22:14 <@luna_> people are stopping them
22:14 <@luna_> the cant go in that way
22:14 < ski> tanks??? are you sure of this translation???
22:14 <@luna_> the state against the people
22:15 <@luna_> tanquetas
22:15 <@thibautcho> water trucks ?
22:15 <@luna_> armoured vehicles
22:15 <@ttx> blindé léger
22:15 <@luna_> some where !!throwing 
22:15 <@luna_> water
22:15 < ski> armoured vehicles sounds more likely
22:15 <@sub> details
22:16 <@lupa_> http://images.google.com.uy/images?q=tank&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:es-AR:unofficial&sa=N&tab=wi
22:16 <@sub> is water cannon vehicles
22:16 <@sub> with protectins
22:16 < ski> gracias por la clarificacion@ todos
22:17 <@luna_> we are in zocalo
22:17 <@luna_> police are beating our compas
22:17 <@luna_> although we are unarmed 
22:17 <@luna_> they are in the corner of the restaurant
22:17 <@luna_> they ahvent taken the square yet
22:18 <@luna_> but we need more ppl
22:18 <@luna_> they are coming in
22:18 <@luna_> national and international press are here
22:18 <@luna_> zocalo
22:18 <@luna_> hangs up
22:20 <@sub> they point to two concentracion points
22:20 <@sub> calle de guerrero and the university
22:20 <@yuri> part of the demo is in the guerrero street and other is in university?
22:21 <@sub> no
22:21 <@sub> they point to two concentracion points
22:21 <@thibautcho> down ?
22:21 < mahtin> they are identifying 3 infiltrators
22:21 <@yuri> oh cierto;
22:22 < mahtin> one has a black baseball cap i think and a white chivas t-shirt
22:22 <@sub> and one a black pullover
22:23 <@sub> with a journalist badge
22:23 < mahtin> guest-en type /nick yourname
22:24 <@yuri> no more translations?
22:24 <@gus> the radio is back
22:24 < guest-en> did it go off the air my stream is gone
22:24 <@Anna> please everyone realize that this channel is being published AS IT IS 
right away, so please only radio transcripts
22:24 < mahtin> he gave out the url of radio.indymedia.org
22:24 <@thibautcho> http://icecast.freeteam.nl:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
22:24 <@Anna> radio tech talk in #radio
22:25 < mahtin> it sounds like someone attacked a water truck and they are calling 
again for peaceful protest
22:25 <@luna_> radio gives out imc url 
22:25 <@luna_> for people to find out whats happening in oaxaca
22:26 < mahtin> i got disconn again
22:26 <@luna_> one compa has pierced the wheels 
22:26 <@luna_> of one of the small tanks
22:26 <@sub> fuck the radio falls always on interesting details
22:26 <@luna_> and they shot at him
22:26 <@yuri> they shot with real bullets?!
22:26 <@luna_> shot bullets
22:28 <@luna_> he threw himself to the side road
22:28 <@luna_> asking for support for him
22:28 <@luna_> !there is a delay in the stream
22:28 <@luna_> from mexico city, radio chapingo
22:28 <@luna_> connection
22:29 <@thibautcho> wtf and we 'are fucking waiting on our chair just "looking" at what happens ...
22:29 <@luna_> we will keep listening in
22:29 < mahtin> another caller
22:29 <@luna_> agent provocateurs
22:30 <@luna_> permanently provocking the police hoping to star a bloodbath
22:30 <@luna_> start
22:30 <@luna_> caut 
22:30 <@luna_> ??too confusing can aso hear studio talk
22:31 <@yuri> yes. too confusing.
22:31 <@luna_> they need materials
22:31 <@luna_> take buses and keep them near the barricades
22:31 <@luna_> people in the centre: join the march
22:32 <@luna_> then we can carry on
22:32 <@luna_> dont do anything without a decition from the appo and the barricade coordinators
22:33 <@luna_> security compas, please call in every 15minutes
22:33 <@luna_> with instructions of what to do
22:33 <@luna_> one of the leaders of the provocateurs
22:33 <@luna_> is a teacher
22:33 <@luna_> xi know him since university days
22:34 <@luna_> he is wearing black and orange
22:34 <@luna_> and he studied law
22:34 <@luna_> from san francico, sacramento, california
22:34 <@luna_> 3000 in a demo 
22:34 <@luna_> against the mexican gov
22:34 <@luna_> and this system
22:35 <@luna_> that has given us only misery
22:35 <@luna_> we will mee with HHRR orgs
22:35 <@luna_> to demand, ask, etc
22:35 <@luna_> that the constitution is respected
22:35 <@luna_> that humanrughts are respected
22:35 <@luna_> and to the police:
22:35 <@luna_> today we need brave people
22:36 <@luna_> you swore to protect your country
22:36 <@luna_> dont injure your people
22:36 <@luna_> you will be tried in court
22:36 <@luna_> that is what we ask from the whole world
22:36 <@luna_> dont forget about us
22:36 <@luna_> -
22:36 <@luna_> lorries are being removed
22:36 <@luna_> in puente tecnoogico
22:37 <@luna_> the police is removing the barricades and clearing the access to the city
22:37 <@luna_> !!tere whre 60 lorries full of army waiting there
22:37 <@yuri> de sacramento, san francisco e california - 3 mil numa manifestação contra 
o governo mexicano. e que este sistema só deu misério ao povo. irão se encontrar com 
HHRR orgs para as exigir as demandas: que a constituição seja respeitada, que os direitos 
humanos também seja. e para a políci: hoje precisamos pessoas corajosas, vocês prometeram 
proteger o seu paÃ, não machuquem as...
22:37 <@yuri> ...pessoas. vocês estarão no tribunal. não esqueçam de nós.
22:37 <@yuri> ops. sorry!
22:37 <@luna_> indiscriminate use of gas
22:38 <@luna_> !he cant breathe
22:38 <@luna_> it is a really critical situation here ( in the bridge)
22:38 <@luna_> they are trying to stop the police
22:38 <@luna_> our compa is chocking
22:38 <@luna_> we need water in the barricades
22:39 <@luna_> we call for people to do wat the security comission s saying
22:39 <@luna_> the hellicopter is throwing gassess
22:39 <@luna_> there is another helicopter gassing
22:39 <@luna_> live to...
22:40 <@luna_> ! a load of noise
22:40 <@luna_> the police is 
22:40 <@luna_> the tanks are throwing gass to the people resisting in the bridge
22:40 <@luna_> the resistance is making the cops to go bask
22:40 <@luna_> compas have managed to resist
22:40 <@luna_> even with gas bombs
22:41 <@luna_> in the bridge
22:41 <@luna_> we are divided in two
22:41 <@luna_> one part in the brodge itself
22:41 <@luna_> another in the avenue
22:41 <@luna_> they are trying to stop the water tanks
22:41 <@luna_> one tank thows water 
22:41 <@luna_> the other gas
22:42 <@luna_> it is important that people go to the bridge
22:42 <@luna_> we ar edefending our people 
22:42 <@luna_> we need vinegar
22:42 <@luna_> they are managing to contend the police
22:42 <@luna_> vinegar, 
22:42 <@luna_> need forst aid stuff
22:42 <@luna_> first
22:42 <@luna_> loads of van full of cops
22:43 <@luna_> in rosario bridge
22:43 <@luna_> going towards cinco se?ores
22:43 <@luna_> we call for people to come to university
22:43 <@luna_> and proctect it
22:43 <@yuri> !luna, where's the brigde, please?
22:44 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
22:44 <@luna_> east of the city
22:44 <@luna_> over the river?
22:44 <@yuri> ok. thank so much.
22:44 <@luna_> ther is a strong confrontation ther
22:44 <@luna_> there
22:44 <@luna_> between people and the tanks
22:44 <@thibautcho> do we know something about people injured ?
22:44 <@luna_> and the have the hellicopters too
22:44 <@luna_> throwing gass
22:45 <@luna_> ! no mention (audible) of injured
22:45 <@luna_> patrols are crossing the bridge that heads to rosario
22:45 <@luna_> connection with mixoacan
22:45 <@luna_> from mixoacan
22:45 <@luna_> really bad line, loads of people in a support demo
22:46 <@luna_> with oaxaca
22:46 <@luna_> zocalo and university, strategic points
22:46 <@luna_> many people from nearby villages have arrived to the university
22:47 <@luna_> urgent to tak food and water to the barricades
22:47 <@luna_> theyve been there al day
22:47 <@luna_> must avoid violebt resistance
22:47 <@luna_> violent
22:47 <@luna_> we have to move forward with our demands
22:47 <@luna_> out with ulises ruiz and the other demands
22:48 <@luna_> ther are demos in mexico, and other places in the country and from villages around oaxaca
22:49 <@luna_> thanks everyone for their suppport
22:49 <@luna_> your support
22:49 <@luna_> a hellicopter
22:49 <@luna_> in amor park
22:49 <@luna_> there are 50 companyeros 
22:50 <@luna_> that are being taken  inside the copter
22:50 <@luna_> they are using copter to move people arrested
22:52 <@luna_> there are police hidding behind the dog building
22:52 <@luna_> perrera
22:53 <@luna_> puente del tecnologico
22:53 <@luna_> the tanks failed to remove the barricades
22:53 <@luna_> there are thousands of people behind the barricades
22:53 <@luna_> resisting copters throwing gass
22:54 <@luna_> and the tanks cannot get thru
22:54 <@luna_> heroical peacefull resistance form the people
22:55 <@luna_> in amor park they arrested gerardo aldez valdez
22:55 <@luna_> valdez
22:55 <@luna_> they can be hitting us with their mighty violence but they will not take our hearts
22:55 <@luna_> like we have resisted thu history
22:55 <@luna_> and we resist with dignity
22:56 <@luna_> and proud
22:56 <@luna_> in tecnologico people need blankets
22:56 <@luna_> cuz they are bombing them
22:56 < kat> bombing them?
22:57 <@luna_> struggle against tanks continue
22:57 <@luna_> now body to body struggle
22:57 <@luna_> that is what she said
22:57 <@luna_> bombardeando
22:57 <@luna_> the tanks have not managed to pass
22:57 <@luna_> no pasaran
22:58 <@luna_> they need blankets, water
22:58 <@luna_> another report
22:58 <@luna_> there is a caravan
22:58 <@sub> i think they are getting bombed with teargas
22:58 <@yuri> !i think its gas bombs, you know?
22:58 <@luna_> coming from brenamiel
22:58 <@sub> there is acid in the water
22:58 <@luna_> of water tanks throwing water with pepper 
22:58 <@luna_> this is perhaps the movement that our lords have chose to kill us
22:59 <@luna_> calling for an ambulance
22:59 <@luna_> a compa has been shot
22:59 <@luna_> shot
22:59 <@luna_> dont take him to the red cross
22:59 <@luna_> take him to he church los principes of university
22:59 <@luna_> church or university
22:59 <@luna_> a compa has fallen shot
23:00 <@luna_> we are the majority
23:00 <@luna_> xoxo y san janito
23:00 <@luna_> go reinforce valerio trujano barricade
23:00 <@luna_> who are resisnting right not there
23:00 <@luna_> the PFP is trying to take channel9
23:00 <@luna_> and paramiliraties are somewhere
23:00 <@luna_> we are ready to give ourlives
23:01 <@luna_> as they said before
23:01 <@luna_> better die standing
23:01 <@sub> than on your knees
23:01 <@luna_> that die on our knees
23:01 <@luna_> or in front of a computer
23:01 <@luna_> !!
23:01 <@yuri> !!!
23:01 <@luna_> we rae not afraid 
23:01 <@luna_> we know who those dogs are
23:02 <@luna_> we have identified the paramilitaries
23:02 <@luna_> we know them and we are not afraid of them
23:02 <@luna_> the students say
23:02 <@luna_> we will not turn away
23:02 <@luna_> we wil defend our university
23:02 <@luna_> we are going to wait for you
23:02 <@luna_> the paramilitaries
23:02 <@luna_> the police
23:03 <@luna_> the pfp we will stay in the radio building till the lastm moment
23:03 <@luna_> the hellicoper with 40 of our people has landed in the airport
23:03 <@luna_> everyone in thh discotel area
23:03 <@luna_> please erect a barricade
23:03 <@luna_> not to resist
23:03 <@luna_> but to climb it and see who exactlyhas been arested
23:04 <@luna_> in bustamante 
23:04 <@luna_> pur people has built a human wall
23:04 <@luna_> to prevent the police from going in
23:04 <@luna_> also around the university there are a lot of ppl
23:04 <@luna_> please informus immediatly so that we are able to help you
23:05 <@luna_> well done to te ppl building the wall with their own bodies
23:05 <@luna_> the army will realise how they have made a
23:05 <@luna_> huge mistake 
23:05 <@luna_> using violece against a peacefull resistance
23:05 <@luna_> it is important that we come to universidad
23:06 <@luna_> also in guerrero street
23:06 <@luna_> we have to keep orderly with intellligence
23:06 <@luna_> bienaventurados 
23:06 <@luna_> our children 
23:06 <@luna_> men and women
23:06 <@luna_> god bless us comrades
23:06 <@luna_> if we have to die today
23:06 <@luna_> they tell us 
23:07 <@luna_> ppl arrested in amor park
23:07 <@luna_> the copters have landed in the army airport
23:07 < mahtinata> (we will die like the sun dies)
23:07 <@luna_> we tell you that so you can see that oaxaca is looking
23:07 <@luna_> in thei movement
23:07 <@luna_> avemida technologico
23:07 <@luna_> police are pushing in
23:07 <@luna_> people are pushing back
23:07 <@luna_> its amazing how poeple are pushing them back
23:08 <@luna_> coming to reinfore the resistance
23:08 <@luna_> defending this square 
23:08 <@luna_> for more that 30 minutes, 
23:08 <@luna_> rsisting gas, bombs
23:08 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
23:08 <@luna_> police are dispersing
23:09 <@luna_> !replegandose
23:09 <@luna_> we call for people to come to the radio building to keep us on air
23:09 <@luna_> in ths heroic, peacefull and popular resistance
23:09 <@luna_> we also call for water, food, blankets
23:10 <@luna_> so they can keep their resistance
23:10 <@luna_> the confrontation in tecnologico carries on
23:10 <@luna_> police against people
23:10 <@luna_> front to front
23:10 <@luna_> police is trying to break into channel 9
23:10 <@luna_> in amilpas
23:10 <@luna_> oeple resisting too
23:10 <@luna_> manage to stop th pfp
23:11 <@luna_> channel 9 is a friendly channel
23:11 <@luna_> we cal to people all over the world to keep an eye on the HHRR situation
23:11 <@luna_> we want ulises ruis out
23:11 <@luna_> people are raising all over mexico
23:11 <@luna_> "we are all oaxaca"
23:12 <@luna_> we are all a people against those in power
23:12 <@luna_> doing this and that
23:12 <@luna_> we are making history
23:12 <@luna_> "we are all oaxaca" that is the call
23:15 <@luna_> resist
23:15 <@luna_> in a peacefull way
23:15 <@luna_> keep the phone line going
23:15 <@luna_> and the information coming in
23:15 <@luna_> we are also calling to come and resist fisically here in the univ building
23:16 <@luna_> as is a coordination tool
23:16 <@luna_> 95111364757
23:16 <@luna_> we continue to monitor what is going on 
23:16 <@luna_> we are all oaxaca
23:16 <@luna_> www.indymedia,org
23:17 <@luna_> people continue to resist, and needing support please support the different locations 
23:17 <@luna_> lets not give up our city
23:18 <@luna_> they might have the streght to impose their will
23:18 <@luna_> but we will never give them our consent
23:18 <@luna_> >music>
23:18 <@luna_> it is not bell of death 
23:18 <@luna_> it is bells of live
23:18 <@luna_> thousands of brothers
23:19 <@luna_> it is workers, campesinos, miners, citizens, hundreds of thousand who resist
23:19 <@luna_> ...etc
23:21 <@luna_> end/>
23:21 <@luna_> under the direction of fox, calderon, ruiz....
23:22 <@luna_> newspaper person calling in asking for info on situaton in alemania
23:22 <@luna_> copters, gass, arrested, direct confrontation,  i varios places
23:22 <@luna_> in miguel aleman
23:23 <@luna_> hooded police are doing house searches
23:23 <@luna_> our people are resisting peacefully
23:23 <@luna_> and the state is stricking with violence
23:23 <@luna_> from the morning till now people are resisting
23:24 <@luna_> if the governor is listening
23:24 <@luna_> fuck off
23:24 <@luna_> (or something like that)
23:24 <@luna_> there are reports that the police is armed with assault rifles
23:24 <@luna_> yes they are
23:24 <@luna_> there are reports of shot
23:24 <@luna_> shot is the bridge
23:25 <@luna_> shots 
23:25 <@luna_> we understand that there is a neighbourhood where there is trouble
23:26 <@luna_> why if the confrontation is in the centre
23:26 <@luna_> there are 8 point of confrontation
23:26 <@luna_> all over
23:26 <@luna_> can we keep the phone line open?
23:26 <@luna_> ok
23:27 <@luna_> we are in puente tecnol
23:27 <@luna_> to let poeple know that
23:27 <@luna_> the compa that went head on against the tank, has been arested
23:27 <@luna_> there is one person injured
23:27 <@luna_> hit with a "firework"
23:28 <@luna_> !guess a stunt bomb
23:28 <@sub> probably the guy who pierced the tyres?
23:28 <@luna_> ! sounds like him
23:28 <@luna_> ! someone that "went for it"
23:28 <@luna_> we need to knwo who escatly has been arrested
23:29 <@luna_> they have managed to break the block?
23:29 <@luna_> yep
23:29 <@luna_> !i think
23:29 <@luna_> yes
23:30 <@luna_> they broke the resisting
23:30 <@luna_> !!so it is free way from the lorries waiting other side of the bridge
23:30 <@yuri> they broke the resistance, where?
23:30 <@luna_> puente tecnologico
23:30 <@yuri> ok!
23:30 <@luna_> search the transcription
23:30 <@luna_> !!shit
23:31 <@luna_> !!! the city will flood with cops
23:31 < mahtin> a journalist from excelsior was injured
23:31 <@luna_> !everyone to radio universidad
23:31 < mahtin> ambulance is coming for him
23:31 <@luna_> everyone to radio universidad
23:31 <@luna_> cheers mahtin
23:32 < mahtin> np
23:32 <@luna_> wanna do a bit of this?
23:32 < mahtin> ugh
23:32 < mahtin> the comp@s from some of the colonias have put the barricades 
23:32 < mahtin> at 5 senores/rosarios
23:33 < mahtin> i think they are calling for action at the tires 
23:33 <@luna_> parmilitaries are now around zona univeritaria
23:33 < mahtin> francisco estrada arias parcoijil?  has black jacket around town, 
looks sketchy, has chinese hair-- watch out for him
23:34 <@luna_> ! people have to understand, compas from oaxaca said, people outside
mexico, than in oaxaca, the paramilitaries "open the way" for the police. right wing 
supporters.
23:34 < mahtin> tecnologico - pfp is coming toward Channel 9, people are reinforcing
23:34 <@luna_> alert
23:34 < mahtin> supposed ambulance is the police
23:34 <@luna_> there is supposed to be an ambulance running around the city
23:34 <@luna_> it is a police vehicle
23:34 < mahtin> be careful of who is helping our injured comp@s
23:35 <@luna_> rems ambulance
23:35 < mahtin> again, be careful- the ambulance is the police
23:35 < mahtin> as we continue this day of resistance and direct confrontation with 
police and pfp...
23:35 <@luna_> kev	the other campaign is blocking eje central in mexico city. 
just moved a bus across this major avanue that corsses the city center
23:35 <@luna_> !
23:35 < mahtin> we repudiate the presence of the federal forces, and we demand that 
the federal police stop invading oaxaca
23:36 < mahtin> we have to defend our ideas, compan~eros
23:36 < mahtin> to resist, to defend our rights, the pueblo of Oaxaca and Mexico
23:36 < mahtin> from mexico city in df, they are taking roads in suppot of oaxaca
23:37 < mahtin> they are attacking oaxaca in a violent way, while the peopel resist peacefully
23:37 < mahtin> we have to stay firm, keep our eyes out, watch the different kinds of ambulances
23:37 < mahtin> and not leave our injured alone
23:38 < mahtin> have people who support them with them
23:38 < mahtin> head cold, heart ho
23:38 < mahtin> t
23:38 < mahtin> peopel of oaxaca are defending a just cause, don't give in to the pfp or let them in
23:38 < mahtin> phone call (i need help with this)
23:38 < zapATIsta> hi mahtin, hi all
23:38 < mahtin> someone threw a granada
23:39 < mahtin> granade
23:39 <@luna_> copter that was supposed to monitor crowd movements
23:39 <@luna_> has suddenly thrown a gass greande into the multitude
23:39 <@luna_> just like that
23:39 < mahtin> radio person says they are tear gas grenades
23:39 <@luna_> hot metal canisters
23:40 <@luna_> with smoke
23:40 < mahtin> people are defending their right to gather and protest
23:40 <@luna_> thrown over the heads of the people
23:40 < mahtin> URO out of Oaxaca, never pfp in oaxaca
23:40 < mahtin> no shame in rejecting...bloodbath...
23:41 < mahtin> Romero from Calle ciudad - identifying and making a general list of people who have been captured
23:41 <@luna_> !!mahtin where was that?
23:41 <@luna_> !!the gass
23:41 < mahtin> maybe wrong, but they started out talking about a person
23:41 < mahtin> oh i forget
23:41 < mahtin> in 7 principes they need towels/help
23:42 < mahtin> i can never understand the beginning of phone calls
23:42 < mahtin> for people to keep coming together to defend key points
23:42 < mahtin> like radio universidad, tecnologico, other strategic points and keep advancing
23:43 < mahtin> mass peaceful resistance continues
23:44 < mahtin> we say, enough of this tyrant...
23:44 < mahtin> call to keep following the example of APPO
23:44 < mahtin> call to the world to demand an end to the escalation of violence against the protesters in Oaxaca
23:45 < mahtin> some 50 detained
23:45 < mahtin> several injured
23:45 < mahtin> this afternoon is what golden pages in the history of mex, oaxaca, humanity will be written about...
23:45 < mahtin> we will continue the resistance....
23:46 < mahtin> let's come together and strengthen the resistance in the capital of the state
23:46 < mahtin> we'll form a peaceful barrier against the pfp
23:46 < mahtin> please don't provoke them or commit any act - it's better to leave
23:47 < mahtin> there is talk about infiltrators and about the ambulance
23:47 < mahtin> get out of that area
23:47 < mahtin> some say you can trust the ambulance, others say you can't
23:47 < mahtin> the driver, luis, is a friend of some comp@s
23:48 < mahtin> but i don't want to be responsible
23:48 <@heth> stream stopped
23:48 < mahtin> let the ambulance thru cuz we know the driver
23:48 < mahtin> shit
23:48 < mahtin> back
23:49 < mahtin> don't respond with violence, tjhis stream went down too
23:49  * boud too lost the stream
23:50 < mahtin> does anyone have it?
23:50 <@yuri> i don't.
23:50 < tomm_> lost it too :/
23:50 <@jolly> no have
23:50 < Devin> dead here too.
23:52 <@heth> back again
23:53 < mahtin> i don't have it
23:53 <@heth> i lost it again too
23:53 < fierman> down/;
23:53 < fierman> :(
23:54 <@ionnek> hey / strange, i can hear the stream...
23:54 <@clack> http://s8.viastreaming.net:7100/ http://67.15.192.20:8010/ are the two main sources
23:55 <@luna_> http://67.15.192.20:8010/ server down
23:56 < occam> please, use always the radio.indy link
23:56 < mahtin> toya says taht they cut the electricity at the univ
23:56 < leo> shit
23:56 < mahtin> not confirmed other than her
23:57 < mahtin> people are calling the radio
23:57 <@sub> also s8 viastreaming is down
23:58 < mahtin> electricity not off
23:58 <@yuri> they didnt cut the energy?
23:58 <@sub> no
23:59 < mahtin> i am hearing yes and no
23:59 < bossa> me too
23:59 <@yuri> hehe
23:59 <@yuri> me too.
23:59 < bossa> here you say no in #mexico yes....
--- Log closed Mon Oct 30 00:00:00 2006
--- Log opened Mon Oct 30 00:00:00 2006
--- Day changed Mon Oct 30 2006
00:00 < toya> ppl are asayin git
00:00 < toya> on #mexico
00:00 < toya> 21:08 < radioplanton> mensajes nos han llegado de ke kortaron la luz
00:00 <@heth> my first impression was some kind of a problem with the streaming servers
00:00 < toya> 21:09 < bossa> asi que es oficial....mierda
00:00 < toya> 21:09 < luna_> a ver de quien son los mensages?
00:00 <@luna_> si
00:00 <@luna_> podemos confirmarlo o no?
00:01 < toya> 21:10 < cml7> est# bien los compas en radio universidad
00:01 < toya> 21:11 <@toya> ok
00:01 < toya> 21:11 <@toya> ;)
00:01 < toya> 21:11 < cml7> cortaron la luz
00:01 < toya> 21:11 < cml7> est# buscando como reconectarla
00:05 <@clack> anyone have a clean log so far?
00:05 <@mtopper> clean?
00:05 <@clack> just the transcription from the radio
00:06 <@mtopper> www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
00:06 <@mtopper> is a live log of this channel
00:18 < toya> i am uploading the audio i was recording 
00:18 < toya> till they cut it
00:19 < acracia> toya, http://netjuke.r23.cc/search.php?do=list.tracks&col=ar_id&val=1992&sort=ar
00:19 < toya> oi
00:37 <@yuri> fucking shit.
00:37 < halo-afk> any updates on the radio station?
00:38 < halo-afk> they ok in there?
00:39 <@yuri> they are ok.
00:39 <@yuri> trying to reconnect the energy
00:39 < Devin> yuri, what's your communication connection with them?
00:40 <@yuri> well, i'm just repassing what some person from ciudad de mexico said in #mexico
00:40 < Devin> ok, thanks.
00:41 <@yuri> no problem.
00:46 <@clack> i removed all the nicks and excess chat / join and quit from a log of #radioappo transcription
00:46 <@clack> shall i publish it on radio.indy?
00:46 <@clack> or is there a wiki somewhere?
00:48 < Devin> a wiki for what? 
00:49 < Devin> you mean wikipedia or what? 
00:50 < Devin> how long is the log? 
00:50 < Devin> you could throw it into the discussion page of the wikipedia article 
if it's not super long. 
00:50 < gdm> THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED ALREADY: http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt 
PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. ALL OTHER 
DISCUSSION IN #radio PLEASE
00:50 < gdm> THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED ALREADY: http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt 
PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. 
ALL OTHER DISCUSSION IN #radio PLEASE
01:12 <@yuri> BACK!
01:12 <@yuri> another radio
01:12 <@yuri> http://portal.radiobemba.org/streaming/
01:12 <@yuri> translaters?
01:14 < elaine> http://68.178.153.169:8100/
01:16 <@yuri> vladimir from indymedia is talking on tha radio bemba now!
01:16 < leo> what if the people in oaxaca talk over the telephone to ou guys 
and you stream that over the internet
01:17 <@luna_> we are translating on #radiobemba but id this is being logged 
it might be an idea to do it here
01:18 <@luna_> cuz people like vlax will give verygood inside info
01:18 <@luna_> not the real time info and chaos from the appo coordination, 
but still would allow a more whole sense of wht is happening
01:18 <@luna_> what do people think?
01:19 < jolly> luna_: do it here ;)
01:20 <@luna_> the stream is skipping heavily
01:25 <@luna_> oka
01:25 <@luna_> radio revolucion is bacl 
01:25 <@luna_> they are checking the signal
01:25 <@luna_> ?
01:29 <@luna_> it is now 7:39:24 PM CST
01:29 <@luna_> in oaxaca
01:29 <@luna_> and radio appo is back
01:29 < leo> radio appo is playing hip hop?
01:29 <@luna_> playing chilean rap
01:29 < leo> orale
01:29 < gus> hahahaha
01:29 <@luna_> mapuche
01:29 <@luna_> perdon
01:29 <@luna_> sorry
01:29 <@luna_> sorry
01:29 < leo> cachai
01:30 <@luna_> mapuche rap
01:30 <@luna_> from gulumapu
01:30 <@luna_> invaded mapuche land
01:30 <@luna_> neo colonialism
01:30 <@luna_> and resistance
01:30 < Devin> i still don't have a stream that works...what url is working for you now?
01:30 <@luna_> chile
01:30 < leo> http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3
01:31 <@luna_> silence
01:31 <@jebba> mirror: http://ahimsa-radio1.indymedia.org:8300/appo.mp3
01:32 <@jebba> it's not appo though, it's kehuelga
01:32 <@jebba> (transmitting silence)
01:32 < gus> its up :)
01:32 < Devin> that works...is it live?
01:32 <@luna_> dunno
01:33 < Devin> ok, thanks.
01:33 <@luna_> if people have time check http://www.azkintuwe.org/ for new of mapuche issues/resistance
01:33 <@luna_> and lets keep this channel for stream content stuff 
01:33 <@luna_> and tecnical questions to #radio
01:34 < Gordito> Apparently there is no resistance going on in Oaxaca http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,20667872-5006003,00.html
01:39 < lupa> appo radio está al aire?
01:40 <@luna_> not sure
01:40 < gus> not yet
01:40 <@yuri> i'm listening some rap
01:41 < lupa> si.. eso es kehuelga... no?
01:41 < jolly> lupa: si, http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3
01:41 <@luna_> venceremos
01:41 < gus> http://68.178.153.169:8100/ (radio bemba)
01:41 < lupa> sisi ... estoy escuchando a allende creo
01:41 <@luna_> Sunday, October 29, 2006 at 7:45:14 PM
01:41 < lupa> no no...
01:42 <@luna_> mapurap
01:43 < Devin> anyone translating radiobemba?
01:45 < lupa> i think no
01:46 <@yuri> wait
01:46 <@yuri> kehuelga
01:46 <@yuri> they are talking somethin
01:46 <@yuri> !
01:46 <@yuri> the rap stopped.
01:47 <@yuri> now its silence.
01:48 <@yuri> they are goin to realize a new mobilisation
01:48 <@yuri> in 3 points!
01:48 <@luna_> it will be a long night
01:49 < gus> luna_: yeah!
01:49 < jolly> they = companeros ?
01:49 <@yuri> si
01:49 <@luna_> we ask the liberation of our prisoners
01:50 <@yuri> 1 - retiro de la PFP 2 - liberacion de los prisoneiros 
01:50 <@yuri> 3 -???
01:50 <@luna_> the sacking of ulises ruiz
01:50 <@luna_> revolution?
01:50 <@yuri> i would like
01:51 <@luna_> we are trying to make contact with compas in meico
01:51 <@luna_> mexico city
01:51 <@luna_> to see if we can organise joint mobilisation
01:51 <@luna_> also in other places in me
01:51 <@luna_> poeple are stranded in zocalo
01:51 <@luna_> and want to know waht to do
01:52 <@luna_> go to university?
01:52 <@luna_> yes, disperse if you judge that is the best
01:52 <@luna_> the university is one of the places
01:52 < lupa> radio bemba: universidad radio on air
01:52 <@luna_> but we are trying to stablish other points
01:52 <@luna_> ! that is the spokes person for appo, florentino
01:53 <@luna_> phone in
01:53 <@luna_> from tecnologico bridge
01:53 <@luna_> a child of 12
01:53 <@luna_> dead?
01:53 <@luna_> we are in tecnologico
01:53 <@luna_> the battle is over
01:53 <@luna_> the people that where here
01:53 <@luna_> left to santa maria and channel9 barricades
01:54 <@luna_> we saw a 12-14 year old
01:54 <@luna_> was laying in the floor
01:54 <@luna_> with shot wounds
01:54 <@luna_> noone wanted to touch him
01:54 <@luna_> and the police moved in
01:54 <@luna_> and we dispersed not too far
01:55 <@luna_> but when we came back the child wasnt there anymore
01:55 <@luna_> and the cops say that we took him
01:55 <@luna_> anyone took pictures from him?
01:55 <@luna_> yes
01:55 <@luna_> dont know his name
01:55 <@luna_> noone knew him
01:56 <@luna_> there is a direct line to call to a number to saturate it
01:56 <@luna_> ready paper
01:56 <@luna_> 01 555 09 33 48 0
01:57 <@luna_> call in ans saturate the line
01:57 <@luna_> !people
01:57 <@luna_> direct line to los pinos
01:57 <@luna_> stick mexico number
01:57 <@luna_> we demand the body of the child
01:58 <@luna_> los pinos is the residence of the president of the republic
01:58 <@yuri> huuum
01:58 <@yuri> right!
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:58 <@luna_> !!people call that number demand PFP out
01:59 <@luna_> someone stick the number in indymedia channel 
01:59 <@luna_> and ask ppl to stick it in our respective sites
01:59 < Asher> We just did a solidarity demonstration in Wellington, Aotearoa/New Zealand - http://indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/71904/index.php
02:00 <@luna_> call the president house
02:00 <@luna_> give him a bollocking
02:02 <@yuri> whats happening?
02:02 <@luna_> people are shooting fireworks at the copters
02:02 <@yuri> oh ok.
02:02 <@luna_> flying over the university
02:03 <@luna_> people are asked not to do that
02:03 <@luna_> we are all angty 
02:03 <@luna_> but dont give the exuses
02:03 <@luna_> prudence, discipline, organisation
02:03 <@luna_> we are going to resist like in india
02:04 <@luna_> we mst stay calm
02:04 <@luna_> they are asking us where the first aid points are
02:04 <@luna_> igeasia la merced, 7 pricipes, etc
02:04 <@luna_> 4
02:05 <@luna_> then there are also doctors and nurses thruput the sister
02:05 <@luna_> today you forgot the masks 
02:05 <@luna_> to cover your mouths against gass
02:05 <@luna_> 2 parts of water
02:05 <@luna_> 1 vonegar
02:05 <@luna_> inegar
02:06 <@luna_> cover nose and mouth with a cloth ipped in the solution
02:06 <@luna_> you forgot that before
02:06 <@luna_> we ran out of old tshirts
02:06 <@luna_> but drop by the university if you need vinegar
02:06 <@luna_> 4 squadrons of police
02:07 <@luna_> rappidly moving towards zocalo
02:07 <@luna_> throwing gass, moving fast
02:07 <@luna_> message  for zocalo and in the way
02:08 <@luna_> ! please dont thow fireworks at the copters flying over our heads
02:08 <@luna_> it might provoque them
02:08 <@luna_> united
02:08 <@luna_> organised
02:08 <@luna_> disciplined
02:08 <@luna_> all power to the people
02:08 <@luna_> but we agreed to some stuff, so obbey
02:09 <@luna_> in the 25 of january assembly
02:09 <@luna_> go and sabotage lorries
02:09 <@luna_> in lano verde too
02:09 <@luna_> put up a barricade
02:09 <@luna_> in puente de hornos
02:10 <@luna_> it is a weak point
02:10 <@luna_> we must reinforce it
02:10 <@luna_> -
02:10 <@luna_> raimundo morales
02:10 <@luna_> get in touch with your family
02:10 <@luna_> he left to parque del amor and his family has not heard from him since
02:11 <@luna_> -
02:11 <@luna_> interview with a woman just back from zocalo
02:11 <@luna_> still sweating
02:11 <@luna_> hi
02:11 <@luna_> we agreed to
02:11 <@luna_> hello?
02:11 <@luna_> hello
02:11 <@luna_> is this kehuelga
02:12 <@luna_> or what
02:12 < lupa> i think yes
02:12 <@yuri> a little be confusing
02:12 <@luna_> there was someone injured there
02:12 <@luna_> leads of people in the university
02:12 <@luna_> is is a fortess
02:14 <@luna_> information
02:14 <@luna_> one child dead 
02:14 <@luna_> in santa maria tzompa
02:14 <@luna_> a wouunded teacher
02:17 <@luna_> ok we were listening to kehuega stream
02:17 <@luna_> and they switched the appo stream to ther won interview
02:17 <@luna_> own
02:18 <@heth> Jazz ?
02:18 < Devin> heh, yep
02:19 <@luna_> camarada jazz
02:19 < sw> luna_ coult u mark somehow what is from the radio and whar is from you?
02:19 < sw> it's not that importat
02:20 < sw> important, but when it would help sometimes
02:21 <@luna_> ` am trying to get the right stream
02:21 <@luna_> `this is not appo
02:21 <@yuri> luna, did you hear what is the situation in zocalo?
02:21 < gus> kuhuelga?
02:21 <@luna_> `http://ahimsa-radio1.indymedia.org:8300/appo.mp3
02:21 <@luna_> ` this is not appo
02:21 <@luna_> `why am i the only one marking my voice
02:21 <@luna_> `?
02:21 <@luna_> this is kehuelga
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:21 <@luna_> `
02:22 < jebba> luna_, yes, that ahimsa stream is now kehuelga.
02:22 < jebba> as i understand it, appo is not available
02:23 <@yuri> appo is not mirrored by http://kehuelga.org:8000/radio.mp3 ?
02:24 <@yuri> they were talkin somethin like: "we ask people stop shootin fireworks here in the university"
02:24 <@luna_> kehuelga just switched back to realying kehuelga
02:24 <@yuri> oh ok.
02:24 <@luna_> which means that kehuelga is pciking the appo stream
02:25 < Devin> It seems kehuelga is worth translating either way. 
02:25 < Devin> (if APPO is down)
02:25 <@luna_> now am getting fed up at the patronising tone of some of the appo voices
02:25 <@luna_> but
02:25 <@luna_> the decition is what we wanna listen to
02:25 <@luna_> real time info on the cops moves
02:25 <@luna_> and so on
02:25 <@luna_> or jazz
02:26 <@luna_> and we have listen to venceremos about 10 time today 
02:26 <@luna_> `that is not the point
02:26 <@luna_> `the point is what do we think best for the netwrk
02:27 <@luna_> `uh?
02:27 < sw> luna_: you could use a script to transcript vanceremos ;)
02:28 < gus> the radio is back
02:29 <@yuri> ok, comrades. i goin to rest.
02:29 <@luna_> `
02:29 <@yuri> i'm
02:29 <@luna_> call in from the us of a
02:29 <@luna_> this is the president of ( ddnt catch)
02:30 <@luna_> they work defending the right os immigrans up there
02:30 <@luna_> and tomorrow they will meet with amnesty
02:30 <@luna_> and hes going to leave this email address so that 
02:31 <@luna_> people can send them reports of human right abuses
02:31 <@luna_> according to the mexican 
02:31 <@luna_> constitution
02:31 <@luna_> as all human right abuses shouldnt go unpunished
02:32 <@luna_> they will also present a letter to the usa consultate
02:32 <@luna_> in mexico
02:32 <@luna_> to bring whoever is responible
02:32 <@luna_> to an international court
02:32 <@luna_> they want real info
02:33 <@luna_> they are aganist voilence
02:33 <@luna_> violence
02:33 <@luna_> lulacmtoax@yahoo.com
02:33 <@luna_> i think
02:34 <@luna_> `i think
02:34 <@luna_> they will hold different meeting with immigrant mexican brothers
02:34 <@luna_> and explain them the situation
02:35 <@luna_> please get in touch
02:35 <@luna_> we wanna know the feeling of our people
02:35 <@luna_> look for the best ways to help
02:35 <@luna_> `down
02:37 <@luna_> `up
02:37 <@luna_> we are angry cuz ther is nothing we can do at this moment
02:38 <@luna_> but we are working to help
02:38 <@luna_> please right
02:38 <@luna_> email
02:38 <@luna_> in libertad
02:38 <@luna_> neighbourhood
02:38 <@luna_> a guy in a motorbike is guiding a lorry full of people
02:38 <@luna_> be carefull
02:39 <@luna_> 2 lorries full of people
02:39 <@luna_> greetings to everyone in the  aleman barricade
02:39 <@luna_> we are going to give the names of our compas fallen
02:39 <@luna_> our fallen 
02:40 <@luna_> bernal - nurse
02:40 <@luna_> stabbed teacher
02:40 <@luna_> an under aged child
02:40 <@luna_> and another unders aged who was run over by one of the tanks
02:41 <@luna_> we consider we are in a fragile situation
02:41 <@luna_> that it will be tomorrow that we will have infiltrators
02:41 <@luna_> to provoke an eviction
02:43 <@luna_> people are asking us to repeat the phone number
02:43 <@luna_> of the president's fox home
02:43 <@luna_> 	luna_	01 555 09 33 48 0
02:44 <@luna_> @52 in front
02:44 <@luna_> +55(0)1 555 09 33 48 0
02:44 <@luna_> and we hold calderon and fox responible
02:44 <@luna_> esp calderon who preassured fox to intervene
02:44 <@luna_> we need to know what is happeing in all barricade
02:44 <@luna_> ss
02:45 <@luna_> we need to have the info 
02:45 <@luna_> we need to know what the cuality of the signal is
02:45 <@luna_> how far you can listen to it
02:46 <@luna_> a few minutes ago a copter overflew
02:46 <@luna_> and in the morning again the copters will go up ti support the eviction
02:47 <@luna_> families are getting in touch to find out where their people are
02:49 < gus> there is more tanquetas coming
02:55 < gus> nooo! hip hop nooo!
02:56 <@luna_> http://www.mountainrebel.net/oaxaca/
02:56 <@luna_> `my signal is falling
02:58 <@luna_> we remind people 
02:58 <@luna_> there is calm in many places
02:58 <@luna_> it looks like the police hace contained their advance
02:59 <@luna_> we need to know who the dead child is
02:59 <@luna_> please if your child did not make it back home tonight
02:59 <@luna_> report it to the radio
02:59 <@luna_> urgent
03:10 < Gordito> has appo radio been shut down?
03:10 < gus> vencereemos!
03:13 <@luna_> its mapuche rap im listening to
03:13 <@luna_> `
03:13 <@luna_> ` people are working hard to repair problems with too many connections to kehuelga
03:13 <@luna_> `which is what we seem to be listeng to now
03:14 <@luna_> ` but there is too many of us sucking the kehuelga signal
03:14 <@luna_> ` so it is dropping
03:14 <@luna_> `i think
03:14 < Gordito> yea i got a stream working now...they are talking again
03:14 <@luna_> `there is a voice now
03:14 <@luna_> ` but the quality is too good
03:14 <@luna_> ` not appo
03:14 <@luna_> `venceremos
03:15 <@luna_> `bueno
03:15 <@luna_> `ke huelga is sound
03:15 <@luna_> `so 
03:15 <@luna_> `shall we carry on?
03:53 < Gordito> .
04:57 <@stacy> the signal is back
05:00 <@luna_> radio:
05:00 <@luna_> we need to rebuild the barricades that where taken down
05:01 <@luna_> report: 2 vans full of prisoners leaving oaxaca
05:01 <@luna_> please ppl try to stop them
05:01 <@luna_> and free our compas
05:02 <@luna_> barricadas: we must block the vans. resque
05:02 <@luna_> our people
05:02 <@luna_> rosa anastasia martinez
05:02 <@luna_> 48 years old
05:02 <@luna_> dissapeared
05:02 <@luna_> ppl be careful you dont get kidnapped by pfp
05:02 <@luna_> we recomend 
05:03 <@luna_> to families to gather in the points were prisoners are known to be taken to
05:03 <@luna_> colula, etc
05:03 <@luna_> gutierrez, alejandro reyes
05:03 <@luna_> dissapeared
05:04 <@luna_> isidro ramirex ilescas and son
05:05 <@luna_> where detained together with 18 ppl and are being
05:05 <@luna_> forced to talk  to police
05:05 <@luna_> human rights orgs
05:05 <@luna_> please go to 
05:05 <@luna_> a bodega in front of "el rey"
05:06 <@luna_> warehouse or wine cellar "el rey"
05:07 <@luna_> 11:18 pm in mexico
05:08 <@luna_> <music>
05:09 < pgh_anarchist> is it good music?
05:10 <@luna_> `deep ends
05:10 <@luna_> pfp is "clearing out' some areas
05:10 <@luna_> radio says
05:10 <@luna_> dont worry
05:10 <@luna_> we will take those areas again tomorrow
05:11 <@luna_> at 11am there will be 3 marches/demos
05:11 <@luna_> and it is important ppl attend and help retake the city
05:11 <@luna_> 20 sububans in the airport
05:12 <@luna_> in the wine cellar near the petrol station
05:12 <@luna_> our political prisoners are being forced to make declarations
05:12 <@luna_> in fron of "el rey
05:12 <@luna_> human rights obsevers please go there and monitor the situation
05:13 <@luna_> please call 
05:13 <@luna_> 01 55 509 33 400
05:13 <@luna_> phone number of the governor's office
05:14 <@luna_> 011 55 509 33 480 
05:14 <@luna_> los pinos
05:14 <@luna_> the presidents residence
05:14 <@luna_> people keep calling those numbers
05:14 <@luna_> at 11 am
05:14 <@luna_> from iyepo
05:14 <@luna_> from justice
05:15 <@luna_> and santa rosa market
05:15 <@luna_> the marches will start from these 3 points
05:15 <@luna_> tomorrow morning
05:15 <@luna_> people from surrounding communities
05:16 <@luna_> and people in the northern mountain range
05:16 <@luna_> come down to the marches too
05:16 <@luna_> dont loose heart
05:16 <@luna_> people in brenamiel and tecnologico
05:16 <@luna_> have been asking for blankets
05:16 <@luna_> food and anti gass equipment
05:16 <@luna_> and asking to reinforce the barricades too
05:17 <@luna_> its getting colder
05:17 <@luna_> take blankets
05:17 <@luna_> brink 4 inch nails
05:17 <@luna_> planks of wood and fireworks
05:17 <@luna_> to the university building
05:17 <@luna_> as well as lighters and cigarretes to use to light the fireworks
05:18 <@luna_> very important sruff
05:18 <@luna_> stuff
05:18 <@luna_> aslo hammers
05:18 <@luna_> fishing rods
05:18 <@luna_> fishing line
05:18 <@luna_> also bring stuff to the 2 barricades
05:18 <@luna_> another dissapeared
05:18 <@luna_> we consider he was taken by copter
05:19 <@luna_> lets find out were our people are
05:19 <@luna_> some went sent to the discotel prison
05:19 <@luna_> others to the warehouse in fron of the petrol station
05:19 <@luna_> some to the airport
05:20 <@luna_> we hae to find out were our people are
05:20 <@luna_> we hae to defend the radio building
05:20 <@luna_> but if they take this bulding
05:20 <@luna_> we will take anotherone
05:20 <@luna_> people are tired of the pri and the pan
05:20 <@luna_> we realised that they are liars
05:20 <@luna_> they might use tanks
05:20 <@luna_> soldiers
05:21 <@luna_> foreigners
05:21 <@luna_> doesnt matter
05:21 <@luna_> we will keep fighting 
05:21 <@luna_> unless the kill us all or imprison us all 
05:21 <@luna_> they wont get rid of us
05:21 <@luna_> so we cal federal government to sit to talk to us
05:21 <@luna_> call
05:22 <@luna_> these news are spreading all over the world
05:22 <@luna_> people from all over the world are calling in
05:22 <@luna_> people will see that justice is made
05:22 <@luna_> so beware
05:22 <@luna_> make a decition
05:23 <@luna_> we call the family of juliverto martinez lopes
05:23 <@luna_> go to the social security
05:23 <@luna_> building
05:23 <@luna_> they will not be able to kill us all
05:23 <@luna_> or imprison us all
05:23 <@luna_> there are not enough prisons
05:24 <@luna_> unless they buid prisons in football satadiums like pinochet did
05:24 <@luna_> what are these senators for
05:24 <@luna_> to guaratte our constitutional rights?
05:24 <@luna_> when they are the first ones to break those rights
05:25 <@luna_> it might take more of our blood 
05:25 <@luna_> but we wil manage it
05:25 <@luna_> from section 22 of the teachers union
05:25 <@luna_> they will not go back to school
05:26 <@luna_> several teachers have been prevented of going back to school
05:26 <@luna_> by pri supporters
05:27 <@luna_> there is also teachers in several states and the capital 
05:27 <@luna_> who will go on stricke
05:28 <@luna_> as well as students  all over the country will probably demonstrate tomorrow
05:28 <@luna_> there are report that the police is searching a clinic
05:28 <@luna_> need confirmation
05:28 <@luna_> of several messages that we have recieved
05:28 <@luna_> we also need to know how good the radio signal is
05:29 <@luna_> we have been advide to use gas bottles to resist the eviction of this building
05:29 <@luna_> all advide is good
05:29 <@luna_> and we are going to remain peaceful
05:30 <@luna_> the famili is of themurdered child is holding a wake
05:30 <@luna_> the news of his murder is spreading around the world
05:31 <@luna_> the wake is next to the monument "to the mother"
05:31 <@luna_> there is also a copter in el cerro del rosario
05:31 <@luna_> and it appears that there is a camp there
05:31 <@luna_> we need to confirm this
05:32 <@luna_> ppl in the barricade of 5 senyores
05:32 <@luna_> are asking for some coffee, please
05:32 <@luna_> can neighbours take some down
05:33 <@luna_> the technology institute of oaxaca is suspending all activisties in solidarity with the resistance
05:33 <@luna_> please call in with any details of arrested and disappeared
05:33 <@luna_> if you;ve seen anything 
05:33 <@luna_> we are building a list
05:34 <@luna_> `reading  a list of dissapeared
05:34 <@luna_> it is amazing that some leaders still use this kind of repression 
against people in this day and age
05:34 <@luna_> <music>
05:35 <@heth> the road to freedom is a bumpy one
05:36 < pgh_anarchist> we just got in contact with two of our friends from pittsburgh 
in oaxaca, and they are safe. this makes me happy.
05:39 <@luna_> apparently tv azteca is broadcasting footage of the pfp attack
05:48 <@luna_> evil hackers took over the stream
05:48 < micah> luna_: ?
05:48 <@luna_> ` compas explaining - the people in the chat aka:us
05:49 <@luna_> `why the caos with the stream
05:49 <@luna_> `the different streams and the problems and work they have been doing to make sure we get appo
05:49 <@luna_> ' so they "apoligise"
05:50 <@luna_> ` anway
05:50 <@luna_> check bientos.info/cml
05:51 <@luna_> http://vientos.info/cml
05:51 <@luna_> they are recounting arested
05:51 <@luna_> 20 compas arrested
05:51 <@luna_> one woman raped
05:51 <@luna_> daniel gonzales in charge of the "operation"
05:52 <@luna_> solidarity actions
05:52 <@luna_> in 
05:52 <@luna_> barcelona
05:52 <@luna_> tomorrow
05:52 <@luna_> 5pm NYC
05:52 <@luna_> buenos aires
05:52 <@luna_> and brasil sao paulo
05:53 <@luna_> in mexico
05:53 <@luna_> cuernavaca
05:53 <@luna_> 100 ppl
05:53 <@luna_> san cristobal de las casas, chiapas 7pm
05:53 <@luna_> yesterday
05:54 <@luna_> 300 ppl
05:54 <@luna_> did an action during a cultural event
05:54 <@luna_> also milan
05:54 <@luna_> italy
05:54 <@luna_> and germany
05:55 <@luna_> in DF too
05:55 <@luna_> teachers from oaxaca hace decided not to go back to school
05:56 <@luna_> and a warm salute
05:56 <@luna_> to everyone resisting
05:56 <@luna_> from kehuelga
05:57 <@luna_> kehulega radio, facilitating the radio stream for all of us, together with indy techs
05:58 <@luna_> venceremos
05:58 <@luna_> radio appo
05:59 <@luna_> perhaps you have seen the tv azteca report
05:59 <@luna_> by reporters that where hiding behind the police lines
05:59 <@luna_> telling lies about what was happeing in front of the police
05:59 <@luna_> how can you be so corrupt and lie
05:59 <@luna_> and tell such lies
06:00 <@luna_> where we the people where the agressors
06:00 <@luna_> and the poor police where the abused
06:00 <@luna_> what shameless lies
06:01 <@luna_> i call for people to prevent tv azteca from reporting lies
06:01 <@luna_> they only showed the images of the injured police
06:01 <@luna_> but they dont show our people, our dead 
06:01 <@luna_> our wounded
06:01 <@luna_> this is the reality
06:02 <@luna_> our dead and wounded dont exist
06:02 <@luna_> and an interview
06:02 <@luna_> with a woman 
06:02 <@luna_> that called us badly borned
06:02 <@luna_> you call yourself well borned when you have never protested to stop the hunger
06:02 <@luna_> in this land?
06:03 <@luna_> shame on you
06:03 <@luna_> `can someone take this over?
06:03 <@luna_> `for a while
06:04 < Gordito> luna youve been at this for how many hours?
06:04 <@luna_> how these reporters look like margaret thatcher and people like that
06:04 <@luna_> `nevermind 
06:04 <@luna_> `need to do some stuff
06:05 <@luna_> `can u take over?
06:05 < Gordito> my spanish is to poor to do it sorry
06:05 <@luna_> list of some arrested
06:05 <@luna_> in prison escotel
06:05 <@luna_> some in mahutlan
06:05 <@luna_> some to the warehose near reyes
06:05 <@luna_> warehouse
06:06 <@luna_> please call us and bring in news of the arrested
06:06 <@heth> i should be going...great translation job, luna_, congratulations :)
06:06 <@luna_> they are telling us that after all the merced health building was not beeing serach
06:06 <@luna_> in simatlan
06:06 <@luna_> van fulls of judicial police
06:07 <@luna_> a copter in hacienda blanca
06:07 <@luna_> and a callout to rebuild the barricades
06:07 <@luna_> they take them down we buld them back
06:07 <@luna_> see who gets tired first
06:07 <@luna_> we live here
06:07 <@luna_> we have a problem 
06:08 <@luna_> only send sms to thin number
06:08 <@luna_> we cannot recieve messages on this number
06:08 <@luna_> `congratulations? what did i win- a kick in the ass?
06:08 <@luna_> please keep sending info
06:09 <@luna_> and gilberto martinez lopez's family 
06:09 <@luna_> we need to know if you made it to the hospital where he is being operated
06:09 <@luna_> we also need to know about the people moved to miahutaln
06:09 <@luna_> miahuatlan
06:10 <@luna_> in the suburban vans
06:10 <@luna_> -
06:10 <@luna_> -
06:10 <@luna_> who are now kept int the warehouse in los reyes
06:10 <@luna_> when they move them to the prison
06:10 <@luna_> lets stop those white vans
06:11 <@luna_> eople in the way, san bartolo, etc
06:11 <@luna_> prevent them from leaving and talking them
06:11 <@luna_> list of dissapeare
06:12 <@luna_> alejandro rosa pedro isidro and his child gilberto huriel gerardo said 
israel juan gerardo saura elisabeth daniel jose manuel gererdo daniel rey isaac mario 
juan guillermo jesus and pedro
06:13 <@luna_> they are quite a lot
06:13 <@luna_> if one of your relatives has not come back home
06:13 <@luna_> please let us know 
06:13 <@luna_> it is 1:22 am
06:13 <@luna_> the list of dissapeared keep gowing
06:13 <@luna_> growing 
06:13 <@luna_> they have been kidnapped by the police
06:13 <@luna_> from 6 pm 
06:14 <@luna_> fidel sanchez garcia 
06:14 <@luna_> who was murdered
06:14 <@luna_> who "answers"
06:14 <@luna_> to this name
06:14 <@luna_> he has not been claimed
06:14 <@luna_> he is in "genesis" clinic
06:14 <@luna_> he was kill in technology avenue
06:15 <@luna_> also isarael 28 year old
06:15 <@luna_> dissapeared about 4pm
06:15 <@luna_> >music>
06:15 <@luna_> there is a problem, no??
06:15 <@luna_> we have a lot of little problems
06:15 <@luna_> `guess what is the track?
08:23 < kry> ciao
09:21 < thibautcho> radio is down now ?
09:21 < halo> think it's streaming, but noone to translate it  :(
09:21 < halo> it's a huge job
09:28 < thibautcho> where the girl is talking ? oaxaca ?
09:29 < teila> derniers nouvelles d'Oaxaca?
09:39 < teilla> thibautcho je crois  ke se difficile avoir des nouvelles 
de la bas, comme au mexique c'est 4H00 du mat:/
09:40 < thibautcho> ouai :)
09:40 < thibautcho> on sais jamais c'est plus histoire d'avoir des nouvelles de cette nuit
09:41 < thibautcho> j'arrive pas a savoir si les flic sont plrit le controle de la ville
09:41 < yuri> !solamente una traduccion en français?
09:42 < teilla> http://oaxacalibre.org/libertad/index.php
09:46 < teilla> http://vientos.info/cml/?q=node/5916#comment-427
10:17 < teilla> mais la radio maintenant elle marche...
10:53 < Tubia87> sub
10:53 <@sub> oye
10:53 < Tubia87> hola
13:29 < thibautcho> Le consulat du Mexique à Barcelone est occupé.
13:29 < thibautcho> Environ 50 personnes ont occupé le consulat du Mexique à Barcelone,
 où elles ont installé 3 tentes ainsi qu une banderole d appui et de soutien aux peuples 
du Mexique. 
15:42 < steev> 3 marches in 3 differ parts of city, i think
15:42 < steev> 1st point
15:43 < steev> [sounds like a loop, a recording...?]
15:46 < pgh_anarchist> marches start in an hour, correct?
15:58 < steev> station id
16:44 < steev> radio appo has stopped transmitting
16:44 < steev> the stream is ke huelga
16:44 < steev> till appo starts up again
18:59 < linux> hola
19:13 < Alster> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u << now switched to 'real' APPO again
19:22 < yuri> does anybody can translate?!
19:22 < yuri> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
19:22 < yuri> APPO is back.
19:22 < yuri> zapatistas de la otra campaña estan en la radio ahora.
19:23 < bossa> thank you yuri
19:24 < yuri> no problem
19:24 < bossa> :)
19:24 < yuri> (:
19:25 < yuri> és necesario personas que pueden traducir de español para ingles. 
we need people to translate the transmission of radio appo, from spanish to english.
19:57 < ionnek> hi Anna
20:10 < leo> any news?
20:10 < leo> have the marches begun?
20:15 < toya> 12 - 14 years old
20:15 < toya> was stand in the floor
20:16 < toya> the body of a kid
20:16 < toya> they have seen it and they left for a little bit and when they came back 
20:16 < toya> someone have taking the kid away
20:16 < toya> i am not sure if i heard it or not
20:16 < toya> hold on
20:17 < toya> i am not sure isf hwat i am hearing is the thing for sure
20:17 < toya> is out?
20:18 < toya> what is going on i am hearing noises only
20:18 < yuri> noises? really?
20:18 < yuri> here is clean
20:18 < yuri> but i don't understand spanish to well.
20:21 < yuri> *too
20:50 < yuri> hey luna. 
20:50 < yuri> (:
20:50 < yuri> radio appo is back.
20:52 < luna> hi
20:59 < yuri> they're saying that santo domingo is the new point to converge?
21:06 < Vwt2-1967> afp 20 h 17  : .  Les députés mexicains demandent la démission 
du gouverneur de l'Etat d'Oaxaca
21:31 < leo> raddio is back?
21:31 < leo> whats happening?
21:31 < leo> wue dicen?
21:33 < yuri> radio is back, pero yo no se o que estan a dicer.
21:34 <@boud> trnslation: (en) afp 20h17 - mexican members of parliament are asking 
for the governor of the state of Oaxaca to resign
21:53 < jolly> radio> there are groups of people committing vandalism in town, but 
that they are not activists of APPO, but provocateurs, even if they are carrying 
transparents and shouting 'viva appo' or similiar
23:02 < mahtin> he was talkingabout how they have human rights observers and lawyers
23:02 < mahtin> talkijng about establishing a oaxacan constitution
23:04 < mahtin> giving out phone number
23:04 < mahtin> 9511365557?
23:04 < mahtin> in relation to what is happening in different places and in the 
city of oaxaca
23:05 < mahtin> we are calling for calm, reminding you that hear in radio universidad 
we need you to come help us and reinforce the radio 
23:05 < mahtin> it is very, very cold
23:05 < mahtin> if people could bring us something to eat that would be welcomed
23:05 < mahtin> at the zocalo they need these same things
23:05 < zapATIsta> rehi
23:05 < mahtin> today has been calmer
23:05 < zapATIsta> yay
23:06  * zapATIsta is almost calm
23:06 < mahtin> the crimes they are committing against our detainees are...
23:06 < zapATIsta> hard to do much in connecticut
23:06 < mahtin> stop talking, go to #indymedia
23:06 < mahtin> federal crimes
23:06 < mahtin> exerting right to free protest
23:06 < mahtin> survival, inaudible
23:07 < mahtin> we already know what treasures there are in the government? and they don't know what to do
23:07 < mahtin> information about the detained vehicles (buses) and comp@s
23:08 < mahtin> there is news about blocking the streets in new york to condemn the violence in nyc
23:08 < mahtin> they blocked 39th st in manhattan and outside the mex. consulate
23:08 < mahtin> the police...minutes after 10am, some 20 people outside the consulate?
23:09 < mahtin> they broke some windows, they made a link to what is happening in mex
23:09 < mahtin> enlace might be lockdown
23:09 < mahtin> caller: we are working on retaking the zocalo?
23:09 < mahtin> tomorrow we will hve a march, today one started an hour ago, we are really worried
23:10 < mahtin> we are getting organized for getting back out there
23:10 < mahtin> caller- we'll see you soon out there, 1 hour
23:10 < mahtin> new york- there were protests the last 3 days, they intensified after brad will was kille din oaxaca
23:11 < mahtin> there h ave been protests at teh consulate in new york
23:11 < mahtin> unam students have errected barricades demanding the pfp get out of oaxaca and stating their support for appo
23:11 < mahtin> comp@s, reminding you the planton is established in santo domingo
23:11 < mahtin> inaudible
23:12 < mahtin> ...we again invite you cordially to come out and support the radio of the truth, of the people
23:12 < mahtin> yesterday, i think she said canal de las abejas?
23:13 < mahtin> the bees left (?)
23:13 < mahtin> i am missing a lot due to the quality
23:13 < mahtin> the bees were staying awaye ven though they wanted to sting the pfp in the mouth?
23:13 < mahtin> music...
23:13 < mahtin> cut out
23:14 < mahtin> it was something about disappearances in latin america
23:16 < jolly> mahtin: thanks, that helps a lot. ppl may get a bit by themself, i think. 
just sign 'missing' by posting ... and skip it
23:16 < mahtin> ok
23:26 <@Alster> Some other radios (partially commercial from oaxaca) - 
Please do not pass these URLs on but use them for your personal information 
only: http://chili.freeit.org:8000/
23:27 < micah> .~
23:29 < jolly> thx Alster
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00:04 <@Alster> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u is transmitting from kehuelga again while APPO is not available
00:22 < mahtin> kehuelga is asking for people from oax to call in and give info
00:22 < mahtin> i missed the number, 3559292?
00:27 <@Alster> appo is back
00:34 < mahtin> it's 6:45 and we're transmitting on radio universidad, the voice ofthe people, etc
00:35 < mahtin> we're looking for some links online to find out exactly what's going, 
to contact the senators about getting uro out
00:35 < mahtin> talking about a constitutional assembly
00:35 < yuri> that's right!
00:36 < mahtin> the decision to have a constitutional assembly..
we defend peaceful mass assemblies....#4 comp@s is very important...
this constitutional congress will try to ... build a big structure for our people
00:37 < mahtin> ... bring all the streams of thought together...
00:37 < mahtin> comp@s, colonias, students, indigenas, workers 
(people from all walks of life)
00:37 < mahtin> we will look for the documents to make us able to participate 
in the constitutional assembly
00:38 < mahtin> it's not enough to get uro out, we have to re-build the forms, 
the ways of communicating, the new ways of doing politics, transform...
this struggle has to win the demands of the people of Oax
00:38 < mahtin> we have to keep going, economic and po ltical changes, 
all the problems that we live with every day in Oax
00:39 < mahtin> we have to change an injust society that criminalizes, 
punishes, etc
00:39 < mahtin> the persecuted, tortured, disappeared comp@s, 
running through names of 2 people who reappeared
00:39 < mahtin> they say there were not tortured
00:40 < mahtin> although teachers and community members have been beaten in local prisons
00:40 < mahtin> these 2 were in channel 9, fighting, struggling against the pfp
00:40 < mahtin> sorry i keep missing the names
00:40 < mahtin> phonecall
00:40 < mahtin> i cannot hear it
00:44 < mahtin> i hear things about wanting a peaceful solution...
00:46 < mahtin> it's a conversation with a senator (ramon jana? jarra?)
00:51 < yuri> no problem, mahtin. you're doing great. i'm terrible in translate from spanish.
00:54 < yuri> stream of radio appo is down.
00:56 < jebba> dmmit
00:58 < mahtin> not the first tme in the last hour
01:00 < mahtin> back
01:02 < mahtin> ineed a nap
01:02 < mahtin> just listed several names of people who were severely beaten yesterday
01:03 < mahtin> 110 lightbulbs needed
01:03 < mahtin> ?
01:03 < mahtin> need people to come defend the station from people who want to destroy our voice
01:06 < yuri> fuck!
01:06 < yuri> whats fucking happening???!
01:06 < mahtin> sounds like it might be drivebys
01:06 < mahtin> people please come out and defend us
01:06 < mahtin> i don't understand the jutones or whatever she is sayinhg
01:07 < mahtin> bring whatever you can, a broom even
01:07 < mahtin> this is an urgent call
01:07 < mahtin> there is an attack that is trying to destroy this radio station
01:08 < mahtin> unam students should communicate with fellow unam students to tell
t hem what is happening, what happened to certain students
01:09 < mahtin> filamtents for reflectors/lightbulbs are urgently needede
01:09 < mahtin> let's build a big cordon, a big barrier to protect radio universidad
01:10 < mahtin> this very important means of communication
01:10 < mahtin> let's put on some music, no nos moveran
01:11 < mahtin> we are asking for reinforcements, the pfp is here on 5 Sen~ores
01:11 < mahtin> we need any people who can get near here to come really fast
01:11 < mahtin> they are porros
01:12 < mahtin> from pres. santa lucia
01:12 < mahtin> they are trying to get us out of here
01:12 < mahtin> please come to the radio station to defend it and keep us here in the struggle
01:12 < mahtin> radio univ is a symbol of the people's struggle...
01:13 < mahtin> we have nearly won the struggle, but don't let them quiet our voice
01:13 < mahtin> the struggle of the university students is really important, we have to keep it going
01:13 < mahtin> we need you to come down here to radio univ (peacefully), people of Oaxaca
01:13 < mahtin> we need your physical presence
01:14 < mahtin> tomorrow could be too late
01:14 < mahtin> again we invite you, we tell you that these are porros in uro's services...
01:15 < mahtin> 7:31 pm here at radio univ de oaxaca studios
01:15 < mahtin> the latest news...
01:16 < mahtin> talking about the planton in the zocalo
01:16 < mahtin> tomorrow in plaza de santo domingo
01:16 < mahtin> for a day of mourning
01:17 < mahtin> it is an action of peaceful resistance
01:17 < mahtin> bring whatever offerings you can
01:17 < mahtin> the plenary will be tomorrow at 10 
01:18 < mahtin> at the union hall, missed the name
01:18 < mahtin> someone int he background just whistled
01:20 < mahtin> so day of mourning and appo plenary tomorrow
01:20 < mahtin> urgently calling for people to defend radio univ
01:21 < mahtin> our correspondents from different parts of the city say the pfp
01:21 < mahtin> has detained comp@s
01:21 < mahtin> go to parque del amor
01:21 < mahtin> the pfp is not coming to radio univ
01:22 < mahtin> right now
01:22 < mahtin> those armed people with red shirts who are supposedly coming here, 
but our people who see them out there in their trucks should come here...?
01:22 < mahtin> to "counterarrest" them
01:23 < mahtin> with serenity, love, etc to help us keep the peopel informed
01:23 < mahtin> the pfp is detained it isnto advancing, they are the porros
01:23 < mahtin> who are trying to attack us, our barricades
01:23 < mahtin> we have to guard the r.u. installations
01:24 < mahtin> a los comp@s, please form parapets to defend yourselves
01:24 < mahtin> don't use rocks, etc
01:24 < mahtin> ellos no pasaran- they will not pass
01:25 < mahtin> everyone out there listening please come defend us
01:25 < mahtin> we are awating a link with the comp@s at radio planton
01:25 < mahtin> so we can get a report from different places where people are
01:26 < mahtin> 7:42 here at radio univ
01:26 < mahtin> please come out, conscious studnets have put themselves at the service of the people of oax
01:27 < mahtin> those hateful porros could have guns, please protect yourselves, watch their movements, etc
01:27 < mahtin> shit giving out numbers very fast
01:28 < mahtin> we have to locate ourselves in strategic locations to protect ourselves from those porros
01:28 < mahtin> if you are at a barricade and aren't facing major problems, please come down here
01:29 < mahtin> you have to react immediately if they attack
01:29 < mahtin> strategic locatiosn will allow us to resist
01:30 < mahtin> all the comp@s who are here and give us info by telephone, all the neighbors, 
please let us know and protect us from the suspicious people, we will do a peaceful 
mass protest to resist,a nd they will not pass
01:30 < mahtin> bus and truck movements
01:30 < mahtin> have been seen
01:31 < mahtin> we ask for calm, patience, organization, discipline, tranquilos, etc
01:31 < mahtin> still awaiting the linkup with comp@s to hear what the environment is out there
01:32 < mahtin> we ask all the studnets and workers to come out and protect the university
01:33 < mahtin> listing all the different tracks of study-- all of you please come out
01:33 < mahtin> we will comeback with reports about the mobilizations in our city
01:33 < mahtin>  music should be coming on
01:34 < mahtin> for all the comp@s who are in love, etc...
01:34 < mahtin> we are right now in the communication school
01:34 < mahtin> we got info about the security system
01:34 < mahtin> we have identified the people who are trying to provoke the people's movement
01:35 < mahtin> alarcon, de la croc, missed it, quintar, ex-pres of a colonia, 
other people who could infiltrate...
01:35 < mahtin> these people plan to add themselves to the pfp's efforts
01:35 < mahtin> and provoke attacks, etc
01:36 < mahtin> inform radio univ about where the bad guys are moving around in the city
01:36 < mahtin> (music)
01:43 < mahtin> (still music)
01:46 < yuri> wait
01:46 < mahtin> back
01:46 < mahtin> we have a link with our comp@s
01:47 < mahtin> good evneing, how are you...
01:47 < mahtin> can't hear
01:47 < mahtin> i want to tell the comp@s who are responding tot he action of the federal gov't (cut out)
01:48 < mahtin> back
01:49 < mahtin> cut out again
01:54 < mahtin> ok so they named three porros again
01:54 < mahtin> there are groups of porros at the service of the pri that basically have 
us under siege, they are taking the university's financial resources
01:55 < mahtin> again a call to the students to respond to these offenses 
(? against hte people of oax
01:56 < mahtin> ya basta, in these moments we have to rise up against the porros, etc
01:56 < mahtin> by 10am the gov't owrkers will have a march
01:56 < mahtin> enough hearing ruiz ortiz's name
01:56 < mahtin> mobilization calling on uro to get out
01:56 < mahtin> the march will leave the 7 regiones(?) bridge ...missed the time
01:57 < mahtin> ok another linkup (phonecall) is coming up
01:57 < mahtin> comp@s we are indignated about these porros out there, 
we are really mad about what they are doing to our univ, trying to sack us and etc
01:58 < mahtin> we demand that the federal gov't improve the infrastruture, etc...
students, come out and defend public education
01:58 < mahtin> we can't keep going to class while they do these things to us, while they are so corrupt
01:58 < mahtin> let's not be afraid oft he porros
01:59 < mahtin> in name of students, come out and defend the people, etc
02:00 < mahtin> i am really indignant, bothered, cuz we have to wake up, it's time to wake up
02:00 < mahtin> we are seeing what is happening heere, we can't go to school ina normal way...
02:01 < mahtin> we have to transform the way the school is run
02:01 < mahtin> the students are coming together again, the student sector shoudl 
come out like it did 30 years ago, and get uro out
02:02 < mahtin> this university is like the last one in terms of federal gov't money given
02:02 < mahtin> not enough books, laboratories, etc
02:03 < mahtin> there ar tehings that we should fight for and (expose) as students
02:03 < mahtin> we should demand the ouster of the repressive gov't of uro
02:03 < mahtin> the porros that are coming, their chief goal is not the radio univ, 
it is to attack the federal police so they can justify the repression against appo 
and the students and radio univ.
02:04 < mahtin> the people have identified the ones who have violated union law... (?)
02:04 < mahtin> neighbors, it is very important to take over simbolos patrios,
02:05 < mahtin> the barricade at (name?)
02:05 < mahtin> bodies, like groups of porros are coming to provoke
02:05 < mahtin> so we have to strengthen those barricades
02:05 < mahtin> like 5 Sen~ores
02:05 < mahtin> come running and help out
02:06 < mahtin> we are demonstrating, proving, that our resistance is peaceful
02:06 < mahtin> ...
02:07 < mahtin> hey have plainly identified the porros, the ones responsible 
for the killing of the american journalist
02:07 < mahtin> the ones who would provoke the pfp are juan luis de la croc?
02:07 < mahtin> armando castillo de santa maria
02:07 < mahtin> miguel quintana de santa cruz.. (?)
02:08 < mahtin> telling a sotry abouit the santa maria guy
02:08 < mahtin> urgent that this person communicate with sister
02:08 < mahtin>  maria antonio perez tomaz
02:08 < mahtin> and abram fernandez
02:08 < mahtin> the family of sr. gonzalo aguilar de la reforma agraria
02:08 < mahtin> don't worry, he's in jail
02:09 < mahtin> the family of sr gonzalo aguilar he is in the jail at meyohuatlan (?)
02:09 < mahtin> please tell his family he is in jail
02:09 < mahtin> gerardo...de las rosas, 23 years old, was detained int he parque del amor, he works in the zone 61
02:09 < mahtin> they tell us he is in (same jail as above?)
02:10 < mahtin> to all the relatives of the disappeared and the dead, the assassinated
02:10 < mahtin> and the injured, beaten, imprisoned
02:10 < mahtin> go to the national human rights commission
02:10 < mahtin> ramon calizan? and ? reyes
02:10 < mahtin> go there and start investigating where these people are
02:10 < mahtin> all these people detained, with strange charges
02:11 < mahtin> in 5 senores and the zocalo
02:11 < mahtin> these relatives of gonzalo aguillar and the delas rosas guy and reyes
02:11 < mahtin> and the othres, put yourdemand and denouncement at the human rights commission
02:11 < mahtin> there are 5 trucks of pfp 
02:11 < mahtin> thank you comp@s for stopping them
02:12 < mahtin> an important notice
02:12 < mahtin> ...
02:12 < mahtin> a resolution (parliamentary?) about radio mapache
02:12 < yuri> yes
02:14 < mahtin> the political effects are clear...
02:14 < mahtin> i am out
02:16 < yuri> the compañera is talkin about the porros who's shooting insurgent 
people and the maestros.
02:18 < yuri> they are talking that the porro's are trying to create chaos to 
justify the action of PFP
02:19 < yuri> still talking i think a little bit who are the porro's, what they do, 
saying that they're from right-wing etc.
02:32 < yuri> *stream of radio appo is down*
02:40 < micah> jebba: looks like the source is down
02:40 < micah> err, didn't mean to just say jebba :)
04:36 < micah> appo is back
04:36 < gus> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3
04:36 < gus> http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3
04:37 < gus> they are talking about infiltred inside the university
04:37 < gus> that ppl are around with cars
04:37 < gus> and they are provocating the police
04:39 < gus> the ppl identify the color of the car
04:39 < gus> that were doing that.
04:40 < gus> there are 3 cars!
04:40 < gus> be alert companeros
04:40 < gus> tomorrow will happen a PRIIST march
04:40 < yuri> yes. 10am
04:41 < gus> and some radios will support it
04:41 < gus> 5 Senores is a key-point to acess the university!
04:42 < gus> we need to put "pregos"(clavos) in the ground to stop that cars
04:42 < gus> (i understood right?)
04:43 < gus> music now
04:43 < gus> (i didnt get the phone radio)
04:43 < yuri> (maybe. it makes sense)
04:50 < Gordito> is that radio appo streaming?
04:51 < gus> yes
04:51 < Gordito> they havent been shut down yet?
04:52 < gus> nope
04:52 < Gordito> thats amazing...i thought for sure it would be down by now
04:52 < gus> (another music)
04:52 < gus> we return streaming
04:53 < gus> many telephones were blocked
04:53 < gus> 23:00 (mex)
04:53 < gus> many msgs are coming
04:53 < gus> all around oaxaca
04:54 < gus> do not allow they get water...that water is to repress the ppl
04:57 < gus> the human rights is moving around
04:58 < gus> San pablo - one unity of pfp is around. Companeros have to stop it!
04:59 < mahtin> today were on high alert and we have to communicate
05:00 < yuri> great, mahtin!
05:01 < mahtin> greetings to the folksa t the barricade at 5 sen~ores
05:01 < mahtin> and to the "gatos gordos..."
05:01 < gus> barricades 5 senores - they are still resisting pacific
05:02 < mahtin> pacificamente=peacefully
05:02 < mahtin> we are giving you precise information
05:02 < mahtin> there have been increasing incidents and the police are focusing on certain barricades?
05:03 < mahtin> they are showing something about the zocalo
05:03 < mahtin> i'm not sure he's making sense
05:03 < mahtin> we are disappointed by this situation
05:04 < mahtin> saluting the nurses, doctors, medics at 7 principes
05:04 < mahtin> basically sending shout-outs to everyone
05:04 < mahtin> music
05:04 < Gordito> what was that about not drinking the water?
05:04 < mahtin> chats in indymedia
05:05 < mahtin> not this channel
07:09 < psuedo> hey all
07:09 < psuedo> can anyone please help me tune radio appo?
07:09 < psuedo> no link seem to work
07:10 < zapATIsta> the one that usually works fine for me doesn't currently. they might be off the air for a while.
07:11 < psuedo> $ hablas español?
07:11 < psuedo> $
07:11 < psuedo> $
07:13 < zapATIsta> un poquito. mi espanol sux0rs. lo siento. disculpame. :\
07:14 < psuedo> no problem
07:14 < psuedo> its just that i thought you would speak spanish because of your nick
07:14 < zapATIsta> heh
11:26 < toya> oi
15:01 < yuri> radio APPO esta de vuelta.
15:03 < toya> ah
15:03 < toya> !
15:29 < Gordito> Can someone translate or summarize what is going on?
15:31 < steev> i just started listening but i think they're saying
15:31 < steev> don't respond to provocation
15:32 < steev> docuement, take photos, etc, but don't respond with violence during the march
15:32 < steev> there are disappearances and wounded....
15:33 < steev> a caller
15:54 < yuri> oi
15:58 < Gordito> anyone getting any of this pro governent marchhe ading towards thue university
16:00 < Gordito> luna youre back thank god
16:02 < luna> there is no god
16:04 < Gordito> i agree but its an expression sheesh
16:18 < luna> Gordito, i prefer the more accurate 'thank sheesh'... nobody can argue with that ;)
16:19 < luna> fuck
16:19 < luna> jst teasing
16:19 < luna> saludos rebeldes gordito
16:21 < Gordito> luna who do you pray to when you play nintendo
16:24 < luna> wow! nice one
17:07 < Gordito> Anyone know whats goin on on radio appo
17:08 < jolly_> radio> ppl are called to join the march and to come to santo domingo
17:09 < jolly_> and not to join but avoid and cut out the groups of provocateurs around in town
17:10 < luna> house searches
17:37 < yuri> hola
17:38 < yuri> bamzin
18:08 < yuri> does anybody knows whats this woman is talkin about?
18:08 < yuri> against the motherfuckers priistas?
18:09 < toya> 15:02 < toya> 40 ppl in the embassy of mexico in brasilia - lots of cops and they 
18:09 < toya>               are not letting the ppl to get close of it
18:09 < toya> 15:03 < toya> 60 ppl in the consulate of mexico in sao paulo - indymedia tried to 
18:09 < toya>               talk with the conusl but the government of mexico didnt let him talk  
18:09 < toya>               and they gave a note (full of bullshit)
18:40 < mahtin> there is a missing woman teacher from friday
18:40 < mahtin> they are asking for phone calls about what happened to her
18:42 < mahtin> (missing) please get to the area of santo domingo and don't respond to police provocation
18:42 < yuri> thanks, mahtin.
18:45 < mahtin> then i got on the phone and she was saying something about bringing photos somewhere at 5:30
18:48 < mahtin> a compa from the 5 sen~ores barricade is in the studio
18:48 < mahtin> greetings, etc
18:49 < mahtin> the pfp is detaining peopel in the zocalo without an order?
18:49 < mahtin> without an arrest order
18:50 < mahtin> if you have videos of the aggression of the pfp or whatever 
documentation bring it to the human rights commission
18:51 < mahtin> hot greetings, strong hugs, we are an heroic people...
18:51 < mahtin> host is asking what the schedule is
18:51 < mahtin> 24 hours per day they are violating our human rights, constitutional rights
18:52 < mahtin> host asks peopel from santo domingo camp, they need paint
18:53 < mahtin> certain amounts of each color (for banners?)
18:53 < yuri> yellow, blue, green, orange, black
18:53 < yuri> for carpets, i think.
18:53 < mahtin> 30-35kgs
18:54 < mahtin> 5:00 at santo domingo, with sand 
18:54 < mahtin> 2:30...?
18:54 < mahtin> caller: 
18:55 < mahtin> (inaudible)
18:57 < mahtin> host: materials are needed...
18:57 < mahtin> asking for people to list names of n eighbors who are being vandals, priistas, porros, etc
18:57 < mahtin> cuz this is about justice
18:57 < mahtin> at camp at santo domingo they will make tapetes and offerings, materials are needed
18:58 < mahtin> 4:00 at santo domingo
18:58 < mahtin> the trucks should bring sand, shovels, paint,everythingneeded for offerings
18:58 < mahtin> flowers, etc
18:59 < mahtin> here at radio univ. we are building our offering
18:59 < mahtin> at cross street 5 sen~ores, santo domingo, and other places int he city
18:59 < mahtin> making an offering for our dead, our assassinated loved ones
19:00 < mahtin> they are telling us taht the water trucks were throwing out water 
that had a paint that can only be seen at night
19:00 < mahtin> and that it lasts 40 days on your skin
19:00 < mahtin> please take a lot of precautions so you won't get detained
19:00 < mahtin> ...?inaudible
19:01 < mahtin> senators will arrive tomorrow
19:02 < mahtin> families of the disappeared at 5:30, bring photos, infoa bout what happened
19:02 < mahtin> at 40th st? today
19:02 < mahtin> again, help at the barricades (we will put up?)
19:03 < schock> remember that if you take away the barricades we will put them back
19:03 < mahtin> if we could get a little (audio) recorder for when the pfp come
19:03 < mahtin> take pictures of them
19:03 < mahtin> and record them when you see them
19:03 < mahtin> as women we have to be vigilant so they don't rape us
19:04 < mahtin> outside of an office (name?)
19:04 < mahtin> there isa sign, appo meets here, and there are porros outside?
19:04 < mahtin> 51 45 298
19:05 < mahtin> i think that's the human rights number- yes
19:06 < mahtin> we are asking you to bring us photos and videos of the acts that the pfp 
committed for the senate commissoin on human rights that is coming up
19:06 < mahtin> there's a comp@ wh ohas been (rosario ubarra?) 
working for human rights for a long time
19:07 < mahtin> we need a lot of support for her to defend us- 
especially the video and photos
19:07 < mahtin> it's important to "arm" ourselves so she can demonstrate 
the human rights violations
19:07 < mahtin> we are going to have a music break
19:07 < yuri> :)
19:11 < mahtin> we are conserving some cell phones for later
19:11 < mahtin> thank you to the people of oaxaca for their very important 
cooperation in bringing us phones- now we need cards
19:12 < mahtin> the people at the santo domingo camp have taken necessary 
steps to protect and take care oft hem to protect that building that is so 
important to oaxacans
19:12 < mahtin> missed name, mr. santo ruiz?  missing since friday, 
he's about 60 years old, contact his family
19:12 < mahtin> 51 10844 missed next number
19:12 < mahtin> too fast
19:13 < mahtin> 110 41 62 messages (this could be wrong)
19:13 < mahtin> those are the numbers to call radio univ
19:14 < mahtin> the secretary of the section 35 of health...villanueva, 
could people come help the comp@s- the level of intimidation to not march...
19:14 < mahtin> they are very generous in calling us
19:14 < mahtin> marco villanueva at health dept - communicate with him
19:15 < mahtin> guest: we want to call all peopel out to the barricade...?
19:15 < mahtin> at 3pm the comp@s are going to meet to prepare the dia de los muertos tapete (day of the dead)
19:15 < mahtin> and we will bring materials to make it all on 3rd barricade on somethingsanto
19:16 < mahtin> at 3rd barricade, that's where the priistas repressed us
19:17 < mahtin> in memory of the companera, where she died, therewill be an offering
19:17 < mahtin> national human rights commission is set up at 5 senores cross st
19:18 < mahtin> something about male nurse who was killed...4pm gathering...canal 9 barricade
19:18 < mahtin> they need help for his widow?  radio cut out
19:19 < mahtin> 3pm please be there to start work
19:19 < mahtin> national human rights commission set up at cross of 5 senores, cut out again
19:23 < mahtin> inaudible
19:24 < mahtin> i think they are talking about who the porros are...
19:26 < mahtin> i have heard mention of radio mapache and ciudad juarex
19:26 < yuri> he's talkin something like  that thanks all these struggle they can keep the flame alive.
19:26 < mahtin> what was the thing about tomorrow
19:27 < mahtin> hasta la victoria...
19:28 < mahtin> calling to teachers from coastal region to communicate 
with us and tell us about what happened at the government house
19:28 < mahtin> lola avendano, we are trying to locate her (a teacher)
19:29 < mahtin> her family:"5155471
19:29 < mahtin> esp 164 school zone - those are the peoples who would know what happened to her
19:29 < mahtin> in higuera?
19:29 < mahtin> another caller:
19:33 < mahtin> ...i was doing other things so i missed this
19:35 < mahtin> ok there was something about the barricades- i think at 5 sen~ores
19:35 < mahtin> don't have unncecessary confrontations
19:35 < mahtin> we are all necessary in defending the barricades
19:36 < mahtin> every single one of us is important to this movement- 
we don't want any more injured, killed, detained, disappeared, etc
19:37 < mahtin> ...
19:37 < mahtin> talking about past resistance, guerrilla resistance in mexico
19:38 < mahtin> we are a peaceful resistance, with the most intelligence
19:38 < mahtin> we don't accept provocation, we document all the actions of the pfp, etc
19:38 < mahtin> a good piece of news
19:38 < mahtin> 60 poeple are protesting at mexican consulate in san paulo brazil
19:39 < mahtin> 12 people detained in a protest, there are right now 25 countries mobilizing
19:39 < mahtin> and in many different languages, all the info about our movement is getting out there on free media
19:39 < mahtin> (ie, indymedia)
19:39 < mahtin> so we are getting out there to the whole worl
19:40 < mahtin> around 10am at _ of flores, the ministry types were sweeping up...?
19:40 < mahtin> they had a la jornada newspaper
19:41 < mahtin> we were beaten and detained and thanks to society and the people's intervention we were released
19:41 < mahtin> i missed his name
19:41 < mahtin> i don't know ifi t is also a sin to have a child out here...
19:42 < mahtin> this guy didn't have the virtue, the intelligence...
these people don't hve the sensibility to follow/participate in this struggle, it's awful
19:42 < mahtin> we are going to keep going tonight
19:42 < mahtin> host- they called with an update on the hunger strikers
19:42 < mahtin> they are really anguished about you guys
19:43 < mahtin> tell your son that you are free and resisting
19:43 < mahtin> guest- they have all my support
19:43 < mahtin> host- we are hearing this comp@, a teacher, and about his family in the sturggle
19:43 < mahtin> they were being beaten (in cara libre?) and they were set free
19:44 < mahtin> thanks to the intervention of fellow teachers and society
19:44 < mahtin> guest- my son is alan barush? ??? - he is on the hunger strike
19:45 < mahtin> host- he looks ok, hopefully he is ok...
19:45 < mahtin> he should go see a medic at a health station if he needs help
19:45 < mahtin> your dad is fine is the message to the son
19:45 < mahtin> guest- i want to invite all the people fromt he section 22 (or 42?)
19:45 < mahtin> ok teacher, hasta la victoria siempre, music break
19:51 < mahtin> back, a phone call
19:51 < mahtin> inaudible, more than usual
20:01 < mahtin> ok we have a compan~era
20:02 < luna> she is talking about how brad
20:02 < luna> was very combative
20:02 < luna> one of themselves
20:02 < luna> always with them
20:02 < luna> they lived with them
20:03 < luna> more "oaxaca" than the very oaxaca natives
20:03 < luna> and they are thanking him for giving his life for them
20:03 < rUUd> i understand a little spanish
20:03 < luna> and asking
20:03 < luna> people in oaxaca to build
20:03 < luna> an altar
20:04 < luna> to bring down materials
20:04 < luna> to build it
20:04 < luna> they admire him
20:04 < luna> and are left with his example
20:04 < luna> `she is crying
20:04 < luna> but she is crying not because she is afraid
20:04 < luna> but out of anger and courage
20:04 < luna> they dont have weapons
20:04 < luna> unlike the animals of the police
20:05 < luna> she was wth brad
20:05 < luna> ppl attacked thm when they where 
20:05 < luna> gathering food
20:05 < luna> and then were attacked
20:05 < luna> there were children and women
20:06 < luna> and people came down to support the people in the barride
20:06 < luna> where brad was
20:06 < luna> when so many people turned up
20:06 < luna> the priistas fled
20:06 < luna> and everyone run after them 
20:06 < luna> and then suddebly they started to shoot
20:06 < luna> to shoot everyone
20:07 < luna> and that is where brad was killed
20:07 < luna> asking everyone to go down to build the altar
20:07 < luna> and take pics and send them to his family
20:08 < luna> `over
20:12 < mahtin> flavio montes ruiz is missing, please call us and tell us where he is
20:14 < mahtin> pleasedon't bring us any more cell phones, 
we now have enough, thank you so much
20:14 < mahtin> now what we need is materials to "arm" 
the offerings at santo domingo and radio univ and 5 sen~ores
20:14 < mahtin> we want to have big big offerings/altars
20:14 < luna> now lets buid the altar, have enough mobiles
20:14 < mahtin> wedding flowers, chocolate, we are going to correctly honor our dead
20:15 < luna> lets properly honour our dead
20:15 < mahtin> we need phone cards for the clel phones
20:15 < mahtin> ok, luna i leave it to you
20:15 < luna> no mahtin, am making a fucking leaflet
20:15 < luna> !
20:19 < mahtin> ok they need reinforcements at the canal 9 barricade
20:20 < mahtin> i think they wree reading a statement from radio mapache for a bit
20:21 < mahtin> 8:30 tomorrow at santo domingo they want the magistry delegation there at the planton (?)
20:23 < mahtin> the relatives of disappeared and killed shoudl go at 5:30 today so canal 40 will report on the situation
20:23 < mahtin> our compas on hunger strike, not so sick, alan's father was on-
20:24 < mahtin> please don't worry about the beating that your dad got...
20:24 < mahtin> please be careful, hunger strikers, cuz there may be an operative around you or your families
20:24 < mahtin> musical pause
20:30 < mahtin> i am sorry i am on the phone
20:31 < luna> `ok
20:31 < luna> what we produce mut be for ourselves
20:32 < luna> 510844 this phone has been taken down
20:32 < luna> if ppl think its a good idea to boycott the telco
20:32 < luna> 9515275624
20:32 < luna> 9511246941
20:33 < luna> 9511104172
20:33 < sw> lol
20:33 < luna> `bingo
20:33 < luna> thats their working numbers
20:34 < luna> the university
20:34 < luna> to the governemnt
20:34 < luna> to the university
20:34 < rUUd> the numbers of killings in iraq?
20:34 < luna> to the people
20:34 < luna> reglare
20:34 < luna> the only way to get out of this
20:34 < luna> is talking
20:34 < luna> nothing justifies violence
20:34 < luna> so please reject provocations
20:35 < luna> we reject any attempt of the public force from breking into the university
20:35 < luna> `this is a statement from the university authorities....
20:35 < sw> `public force?
20:36 < luna> police breaking in would make things worse
20:36 < luna> signed by all university directors
20:36 < luna> and a lot of teachers
20:36 < luna> so
20:36 < luna> -back to talking to dialogue
20:37 < luna> -rejection of state forces violence
20:37 < luna> - rejection of any attempt of evicting appo from university
20:37 < luna> ` they are off air
20:38 < luna> `white noise
20:38 < rUUd> :(
20:39 < mahtin> so sad
20:56 < luna> `some ought to have a look at that radio transmitor
21:02 < mahtin> i called them and it sounded like they thought they would be right back on
21:04 < mahtin> that was like 10 minutes ago
21:15 < thibautcho>  http://68.178.153.169:8100/
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> radio bemba
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> they have phonecallers right NOW
21:15 < thibautcho> <fierman> from demonstration
21:23 < fierman> anyone listening? i barely understand a thing
21:24 < Anna> I'M AGAIN COLLECTING LINKS FOR 
https://docs.indymedia.org/edit/Global/BradWillandothersDeadinOaxaca - 
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING PLEASE QUERY ME
21:28 < guest-es> http://uruguay.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/55606.php
21:50 < alduX> hola
21:50 < alduX> http://uruguay.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/55606.php
22:00 < alduX> hola
22:01 < mahtin> chat en #indymedia
22:01 < alduX> AlduX de Uruguay
22:01 < alduX> disculpame
22:01 < alduX> pero yo filmé con Brad
22:02 < alduX> ta?
22:02 < alduX> es por eso que entre
22:02 < alduX> soy de CMI Brasil
22:02 < alduX> y de radio La Blanqueada FM
22:02 < alduX> estamos escuchando su transmisión
22:03 < alduX> fuerza!!!
22:03 < alduX> chau
22:14 < mahtin> corner glorieta/5 sen~ores needs support, more sand, someone is trying to get thru...
22:31 < Gordito> Can someone tell us what is goin on on radio appo
23:18 < AlduX> http://www.radiolivre.org/files/1%20-no%20me%20callo%20nada.gif
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00:07 < mahtin> anyone who is worried about someone who is disappeared, go to the hotel magisterio after 8am
00:07 < mahtin> then they can all work together to solve the problem of the disappeared
00:10 < Devin_> that's a good idea. 
00:10 < mahtin> that is what they said on the radio
00:36 < ionnek> good night.
00:36 < ionnek> thanks all for translating
01:37 < M02> OAXACA, Mexico, Oct. 30 — As federal riot police hunkered down in 
Oaxaca’s main square today, protesters sought to protect their not-so-secret 
weapon in their five-month-long siege of the city: the pilfered radio transmitter 
they use to mobilize the population. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/30/world/americas/31mexicocnd.html?ex=1319864400&en=ff8cd073ceaf6960&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
01:39 < yuri> haha
01:39 < yuri> shit.
01:40 < yuri> they're fucking funny.
03:23 < luna> 	luna	pfp moving in
03:23 < luna> 	luna	cleaning barricades
03:23 < luna> 	luna	callout to defend university radio
03:23 < luna> 	luna	ALERTA ROJA
03:24 < luna> pfp is trying to clean avenida universidad
03:24 < luna> `street that leads towards university
03:25 < luna> trying to confirm
03:25 < luna> that the police is clearing barricades
03:26 < luna> radio asking barricades to call in with info
03:26 < luna> pfp went in secretaria de finanzas
03:26 < luna> clearing the barricade there
03:27 < luna> we must get out to the streets with out neighbours 
03:27 < luna> and fortify our barricades
03:27 < luna> the night is starting
03:27 < luna> and cowardly the police attack
03:27 < luna> `Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 9:38:38
03:28 < luna> pm
03:28 < luna> we cant leave behind 
03:28 < luna> all the repression that our compa?eros 
03:28 < luna> have suffered
03:28 < luna> the dead, the injured
03:28 < luna> we cant allow it
03:28 < luna> tomorros is the day of the dead
03:28 < luna> santa lucia del camino
03:28 < luna> they are arresting people there
03:29 < luna> we must go get ready to recieve this damn repressor
03:29 < luna> repressors
03:36 < luna> they say that people are afraid of their houses being 
broken into and searched ( which goes with a beating, or rape )
03:36 < luna> we are tired
03:36 < luna> but we must resist
03:36 < luna> but how long have we been fighting?
03:36 < luna> we cant let it go now
03:36 < luna> we are close to victory
08:44  * sub is away: into the fourth dimension
16:42 < luna> the only way out to this confrontation
16:42 < luna> is that that viper, uro is sacked
16:43 < luna> we have to get together tonight
16:43 < luna> forward
16:43  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 10:54:16 AM CST
16:43 < luna> i agree with appo, 
16:43 < luna> been in the barricades
16:43 < luna> etc
16:44 < luna> i agree ULO should be sacked
16:44 < luna> but i dont agree that sosa shoud take his place
16:44 < luna> --
16:44 < luna> um
16:44 < luna> but noone has said this!! noone in appo
16:44 < luna> in no assembly
16:44 < luna> ive never heards this
16:45 < luna> --
16:45 < luna> well whatever, i respect you but this guy is a blood sucker
16:45 < luna> or the movement
16:45 < luna> is a viva la vida
16:45 < luna> dnt trust him
16:45 < luna> many people are aginst this guy
16:46 < luna> am noone to critisize anyone
16:46 < luna> but we have to start from zero
16:46 < luna> after ulises, fox has to go
16:46 < luna> ---
16:46 < luna> good, that is your id
16:47 < luna> we must stay together first, ULO out
16:47 < luna> then we all choose what we get
16:47 < luna> have meetings, etc
16:48 < luna> ---
16:48 < luna> one thing 
16:48 < luna> we are full to the brim with suppies
16:48 < luna> people have been sending a lot of food
16:48 < luna> there is food everywhere here
16:48 < luna> so if anyone needs some
16:48 < luna> call by or ring
16:48 < luna> ---
16:49 < luna> appo comunique
16:49 < luna> appo keeps fighting and call for the people to continue peaceful resistance
16:49 < luna> we say to our leaders we wil carry on fighting and talking
16:49 < luna> doing politics
16:49 < luna> our prisoners must be out
16:50 < luna> while the occupying forces stay here, we keep fighting
16:50 < luna> we call for barricades to be built
16:50 < luna> as a legitimate defence meassure
16:51 < luna> and if police turns up - everyone decide what to do by themselves
16:51 < luna> lets keep resisting
16:51 < luna> in DF the hunger strickers in juarez continue
16:51 < luna> raise a barricades anywhere
16:52 < luna> we demand from nations that have trade agreements with mexico
16:52 < luna> to suspend them until mexico respects human rights
16:52 < luna> ---
16:52 < luna> there is a call for a demo in the whole country to all groups
16:52 < luna> to mobilise on the 5th on mexico
16:53 < luna> 1 and 2 of nov
16:53 < luna> before the PFP camp
16:53 < luna> day of the dead demo
16:53 < luna> in front of the base of the occupying forces
16:53 < luna> ---
16:54 < luna> priista supporter go in front of the pfp to remove barricades
16:54 < luna> appo 
16:54 < luna> agrees that people get back into talks with otra campanya and other networks and movements
16:54 < luna> today
16:55 < luna> some actress
16:55 < luna> has gotten in touch and told them that yesterday 
16:55 < luna> some NGOs have organised a caravan to arrive ( or leave oaxaca on the 9th
16:55 < luna> what appo is doing
16:55 < luna> find a plan of strategy to
16:55 < luna> get rid of uro
16:56 < luna> plan to fortify barricades
16:56 < luna> go to all foreign embassies
16:56 < luna> boycott trade agreements
16:56 < luna> celebrate our dead
16:57 < luna> support the vigil in santo domingo, and keep radio university protected
16:57 < luna> `and some more
16:57 < luna> everyone to the law house, to meet and hear a human rights lawyers
16:57 < luna> family of murdered, dissapeared, etc
16:58 < luna> si ulises no se va
16:58 < luna> calderon no pasara
16:58 < luna> --
16:58 < luna> 11
16:58 < luna> and 12
16:58 < luna> of november
16:58 < luna> general congress of appo meeting
16:59 < luna> it is not enough to swap one governor by another one
16:59 < luna> we must look at the distribution of wealth
16:59 < luna> who is poor and why
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> musica
17:00 < luna> ---
17:09 < luna> police are stop and searching cars
17:10 < luna> in santa rosa
17:10 < luna> plain clothes cops
17:10 < luna> ==
17:10 < luna> 20 plain clothes cops leave xoxo headquarters on motorbikes
17:10  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:21:18 AM CST
17:11 < luna> from the antifascist barricade in soriana
17:11 < luna> greetings
17:11 < luna> the altars are  already set
17:11 < luna> to celebrate "the day of the dead"
17:13 < luna> ---
17:13 < luna> we need more ppl in canal9
17:13 < luna> ==
17:15 < luna> ===
17:15 < luna> important letter===
17:15 < luna> SA academics
17:15 < luna> saying that oaxaca is an example
17:15 < luna> ===
17:15 < luna> URGENT 
17:15 < luna> ===
17:16 < luna> PFP is heading straign towards cannal  9
17:16 < luna> as they removed the barricade
17:16 < luna> warning to every person there and every neighbour
17:16 < luna> keeo resisting peacefully
17:16 < luna> keep calm
17:17 < luna> remain organised and cautious
17:17 < luna> they are armed and we arent
17:17 < luna> we dnt want anymore deaths or injured
17:17 < luna> but
17:17 < luna> we dont want these invaders here
17:17 < luna> urgent message to everyone arround cannal 9
17:17 < luna> ===
17:18 < luna> back to letter from intellectuals
17:18 < luna> `saying, basically oaxaca is rather super
17:18 < luna> `and low intensity war, civilresistance, governor, social equality, etc
17:20 < luna> `loads of western academics sign
17:21 < luna> ===
17:21 < luna> hotels where the PFP is sleeping
17:21 < luna> the command
17:21 < luna> that must be, as the little ones are in zocalo
17:22 < luna> so ppl, please go visit them
17:22 < luna> nicely
17:22 < luna> yesterday our last marthyr was burried
17:23 < luna> "my husband prefered to ....
17:23  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:34:04 AM CST
17:25  * luna we are going to make a feature of oaxaca fallen, so recording stream
17:27 < luna> phone call 
17:27 < luna> PhCll
17:27 < luna> a version of what is going on in oax
17:27 < luna> we havent been able to respond
17:28 < luna> as a ppl
17:28 < luna> we are not really aware of what is going on
17:28 < luna> otherwise...this superMapache
17:28 < luna> (priista)
17:28 < luna> this guy is only into his own interests
17:29 < luna> we are 110% exploited
17:29 < luna> our all our people emigrate to eeuu
17:29 < luna> and our gobernors dont care
17:29 < luna> they only care about their own pockets
17:29 < luna> and am talking to all those that voted for PAN and PRI
17:29 < luna> how has it benefitted you?
17:30 < luna> as christians
17:30 < luna> we have to understand
17:30 < luna> never the PAN has been supporting us as ppl
17:30 < luna> they only benefit multinationals and the elite
17:30 < luna> how have we ever benefited?
17:30 < luna> that is the truth
17:31 < luna> we dont have anything to defend ourselves with
17:31 < luna> every so often when they want 
17:31 < luna> they raises out taxes
17:31 < luna> and the government has everything
17:31 < luna> and us as ppl
17:31 < luna> what 
17:31 < luna> whater with tortilla?
17:31 < luna> water?
17:31 < luna> they are opportunities
17:32 < luna> opportuNISTS
17:32 < luna> they take their slice
17:32 < luna> whatever they are given
17:32 < luna> i think the have shit for brains
17:32 < luna> `that was litteral christian shit for brain translaation, ok?
17:33 < luna> while we support these ppl for the crumbs that they give us
17:33 < luna> we shal always be surmerged in poverty
17:33 < luna> ---
17:33 < luna> we have now a conexion with our compas radio planton
17:33 < luna> `mexico radio 1400 am
17:33 < luna> ===
17:33 < luna> they are removing canal 9 barricade for sure, we are here
17:34 < luna> its the pfp and afi
17:34 < luna> about 15 pfp ans 
17:34 < luna> 2 large lorries
17:34 < luna> no compas around
17:34 < luna> that have practically evicting canal 9
17:34 < luna> q- any assaults from the police?
17:34 < luna> a-no its all quite
17:35 < luna> there are now workers claning with spades, pikes, etc
17:35 < luna> they are clearing out what they consider rubbish
17:35 < luna> `radio planton oaxaca, not DF
17:35 < luna> forgot to say
17:35 < luna> compas in law hotel
17:36 < luna> from HHRR orgs are going into the building now
17:36 < luna> ---
17:36 < luna> live from USA caller
17:36 < luna> ----
17:36 < luna> hullo?
17:36 < luna> caller:
17:36 < luna> we are talking from the north
17:36 < luna> from a station there
17:36 < luna> and we have some questions
17:36 < luna> we are going to put you on live on air
17:37 < luna> good morning
17:37 < luna> we though it was an interview for us here in university radio, but...
17:37 < luna> am sure someone here can talk to them
17:37 < luna> ---
17:37 < luna> --
17:37 < luna> we have someone in the studio
17:37 < luna> ---
17:37 < luna> i am one of appo
17:37 < luna> yesterday in the pri march we had
17:37 < luna> humble people too
17:38 < luna> who where forced to go to the demo
17:38 < luna> and we insulted them but they had no choice
17:38 < luna> they didnt even give them water
17:38 < luna> porr ppl
17:38 < luna> they say to ppl
17:38 < luna> if you dont go to the demo
17:38 < luna> i will not pay your wages 
17:38 < luna> and we are in 2006
17:38 < luna> not 1980
17:39 < luna> deads and many things we are living
17:39 < luna> till when 
17:39 < luna> when will they want to take us out blindfolds
17:39 < luna> those people in that demo
17:39 < luna> where so few
17:39 < luna> so few
17:39 < luna> they are the rich
17:39 < luna> it was like a catwalk
17:39 < luna> they dnt know how to walk and are so fancy
17:40 < luna> till when
17:40 < luna> sociedad valdivia
17:40 < luna> this broadcaster from a big station
17:40 < luna> she had the face to cheer this pri demo on
17:40 < luna> well she cheered us on to carry on struggling ahainst her
17:40 < luna> and that guy
17:41 < luna> who got drunk and got a gun in hand - so and so names and surnames-
17:41 < luna> what the fuck are they about?
17:41 < luna> drunk and with guns and going around the city?
17:41 < luna> and that kid that got shot
17:41 < luna> and tey said that 1st of may killed him
17:41 < luna> what was his name?
17:42 < luna> it wast 1st of may
17:42 < luna> it was the pri who ordered them to go there
17:42 < luna> and that last one that was told not to jump cuz he was drunk
17:42 < luna> ---
17:42 < luna> a call now
17:42 < luna> back to man in studio
17:42 < luna> ==
17:43 < luna> those two in the motorbike
17:43 < luna> and they fell off 
17:43 < luna> as they where going round the barricades
17:43 < luna> provoking
17:43 < luna> we never found out who ordered this
17:43 < luna> ---
17:43 < luna> important info
17:43  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 11:54:39 AM CST
17:44 < luna> about 1 hr hour in los llanos
17:44 < luna> where going around saying that they are oaxaca
17:44 < luna> and giving food to the pfp
17:44 < luna> i am from oaxaca
17:44 < luna> too
17:44 < luna> but what is going on
17:44 < luna> what kind of ppl are supporting ULO and pfp and giving them food
17:44 < luna> they are killing our people
17:45 < luna> they ought to support us
17:45 < luna> because we are talking risks to better all of our rights
17:45 < luna> and they are suporting the enemy
17:45 < luna> it is not on
17:45 < luna> ----
17:45 < luna> `fuerza
17:45 < luna> --
17:45 < luna> so wht we are doing
17:45 < luna> giving the pfp food?
17:46 < luna> they have enough money
17:46 < luna> what we have to feed out invaders too
17:46 < luna> ?
17:46 < luna> our invaders
17:46 < luna> half of our people, oaxaca leaves outside oaxaca
17:46 < luna> so who is oaxaca
17:46 < luna> --
17:46 < luna> unill ulo falls
17:46 < luna> lets carry on?
17:47 < luna> we keep our feet inside the line
17:47 < luna> everyone, in all areas
17:47 < luna> CMON
17:47 < luna> CMO
17:47 < luna> until we die
17:47 < luna> "until - we WIN - compa, win
17:47 < luna> ---
17:47 < luna> think
17:48 < luna> they layed out 3 desks for HHRR abuses on the part of appo
17:48 < luna> and then they are going around asking for food
17:48 < luna> and in xoxo they are not selling petrol, ony to nice looking cars
17:49 < luna> the poor are being prevented
17:49 < luna> can people call in
17:49 < luna> and tell us where ppl can buy magna petrol
17:49 < luna> cuz this happened yesterday too somewhere else
17:49 < luna> why is this>
17:49 < luna> people find out
17:49 < luna> they ony sell premium petrol
17:49 < luna> why
17:50 < luna> ---
17:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:01:25 PM CST
17:50 < luna> this nurse that was killed yesterday
17:50 < luna> we have a call
17:50 < luna> -
17:51 < luna> a few minutes ago we called again
17:51 < luna> we call from north nevada
17:51 < luna> here and there in this radio station
17:51 < luna> we need to know what is happening
18:24 < luna> they are breaking into ppls houses
18:25 < luna> house "searches"
18:25 < luna> first they throw in gass thru the broken windows
18:25 < luna> then kick the door down
18:25 < luna> they are looking to arrest 2 teachers from appo
18:26  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:37:17 PM CST
18:26 < luna> there is a demonstration going on in oaxaca 
18:27 < luna> which aims to go to the zocalo square
18:27 < luna> and surrround it
18:27 < luna> encircling the police (pfp) in
18:27 < luna> -
18:27 < luna> at the same time police is looting what is left of canal9
18:27 < luna> -
18:28 < luna> the have beaten up a 13 year old
18:28 < luna> the arrested him
18:28 < luna> in a street called ni?os heroes
18:32 < luna> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:32 < luna> police moving to brenamiel
18:32  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:47 < luna> a copter in brenamiel
18:47 < luna> looking to land
18:47 < luna> so PFP have surrounded breanmiel
18:47 < luna> afis looting canal9
18:47 < luna> but EVERYONE go support brenamiel
18:47 < luna> neighbours
18:48 < luna> etc
18:49  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 12:43:03 PM CST
18:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:00:46 PM CST
18:50  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:00:46 PM CST
18:53 < luna> brenamiel are surrounded
18:53 < luna> copter landing
18:54 < luna> PFP moves to clear branamiel
18:54 < luna> compas
18:54 < luna> alert
18:54 < luna> prepare yourselves
18:54 < luna> stay cool
18:56 < luna> students report that parque del amor
18:56 < luna> is quiet
18:56 < luna> all quiet
18:56 < luna> in parque del amor
18:56 < luna> low flying copter
18:56 < luna> over oaxaca
18:56 < luna> looking to land somewhere, one of these areas
18:57 < luna> ---
18:57 < luna> --
18:57 < luna> visitor
18:57 < luna> i came to denounce the compa fallen
18:57 < luna> various neighbours, priistas
18:57 < luna> have been phoning us up at home
18:58 < luna> with dead threat
18:58 < luna> death threats
18:59  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:09:41 PM CST
18:59 < luna> they are bad neighbours
18:59 < luna> we know why we are fighting
18:59 < luna> for
18:59 < luna> to get rid of ULO
18:59 < luna> like perico, like mxtas
18:59 < luna> we are struggling
18:59 < luna> fughting
18:59 < luna> fighting
18:59 < luna> we are attacked
19:00 < luna> we see these cars they drive around
19:00 < luna> dont be afraid
19:00 < luna> if they take one of us
19:00 < luna> we are not alone
19:00 < luna> we will help each other
19:00 < luna> the more they stricke the more we rise up
19:00 < luna> ---
19:01 < luna> phone in 
19:01 < luna> ---
19:01  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:12:04 PM CST
19:01 < luna> from 5 mayo 
19:01 < luna> a senator has just held a meeting
19:01 < luna> if you let us
19:01 < luna> wait
19:03 < luna> 1400 radio planton
19:03 < luna> some senator
19:03 < luna> saying senator stuff
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> `
19:03 < luna> ==
19:04 < luna> the people of oaxaca appreciate the comments and are against the invasion of the pfp
19:04 < luna> api is taking way the TV equipment used by appo in the canal9 building since they reclaimed it
19:04 < luna> ==
19:05 < luna> a child from oaxaca
19:05 < luna> that went all the way to the radio
19:05 < luna> a= id like to tell all cops 
19:05 < luna> to remember who taught them to be cops?
19:05 < luna> wel it was the teachers, wasnt it?
19:06 < luna> and now they are fighting against the teachers
19:06 < luna> and it is not fair!!
19:06 < luna> `??
19:06 < luna> have you seen the pfp
19:06 < luna> a=yep 
19:06 < luna> 110 tanks throwing water to ppl for no reasons
19:06 < luna> and what do you think about this?
19:06 < luna> well i think its really bad
19:07 < luna> but i aso agree with the police, cuz appo cutting the roooooads...and
19:07 < luna> q--and what o you think about the day of the deaths then
19:07 < luna> a-- weeeel its nice
19:07 < luna> q--thankyou
19:07 < luna> ==
19:08 < luna> kid: id like to say to all children to come to radio univeridad or if they see any PFP to call in
19:08 < luna> cheers
19:08 < luna> and thanks for the bread you brought in
19:08 < luna> --
19:11  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:21:49 PM CST
19:11 < luna> police are siegeing brenamiel
19:11 < luna> people are asking for fireworks
19:11 < luna> that's what they are asking for
19:11 < luna> and neighbours please go down and support 
19:12 < luna> >music<
19:15 < luna> ferrocarril y cal y canto barricada numero 3 
19:15 < luna> had a copa
19:15 < luna> killed
19:16 < luna> and are going to hold a ceremony for our compa
19:17 < luna> they are talking about brad,
19:17 < luna> but we are not going to transcribe it
19:17 < luna> untill we get the names of the local fallen as easlty as we get the name of brad
19:17 < luna> but he is saying that brad was an example
19:18 < luna> that he believed in what he dd and covered events truthfully
19:18 < luna> the altar in barricade 3
19:19 < luna> is ready and people will keep bringing objects to conmemorate brad - and the others
19:19 < luna> ---
19:19 < luna> phone in
19:19 < luna> ---
19:19 < luna> q- good afternoon
19:20 < luna> a copter in "la joya"
19:20 < luna> is flying really low
19:20 < luna> and children are coming out
19:20 < luna> of the houses crying like mad
19:20 < luna> and there is a guy, benito, a priista
19:20 < luna> and is pointing out houses to the copters
19:21 < luna> and if there is a fallen....
19:21 < luna> ULO is responsible
19:21 < luna> and we saw what happened in atenco
19:21 < luna> but this is not mexico
19:21 < luna> this is oaxaca 
19:21 < luna> we are indians here
19:21 < luna> we will give them what they deserve
19:21 < luna> `she was a womxn
19:21 < luna> a-
19:22 < luna> so
19:22 < luna> copters flying low in la joya
19:22 < luna> and pfp moving in brenamiel
19:22 < luna> and canal9 looting 
19:22 < luna> --
19:22 < luna> visitor
19:22 < luna> --
19:22 < luna> there is going to be a mass in memory to our journalist
19:23 < luna> and people can take some offering to the altar we built in calycanto
19:23 < luna> and id like to invite HHRR observers to visit
19:23 < luna> and we have many tourists
19:23 < luna> here supporting and the government is giving us crumbs
19:24 < luna> bye
19:24 < luna> ---
19:24 < luna> as we are talking about HHRR
19:24 < luna> we have been told that people that are going to denounce HHRR abuses
19:24 < luna> dnt go to el llano"
19:25 < luna> as it is a desk set up by the pri supporters and they are going to take your ID
19:25 < luna> -
19:25 < luna> we need
19:25 < luna> flowers, candles, and DIY altar material
19:25 < luna> `sorry
19:40  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 1:51:41 PM CST
19:41 < luna> message from chiapas
19:41 < luna> missed the begining
19:41 < luna> never should have the police force have appened
19:41 < luna> the federal gobernement doesnt care about the indigenous ppl
19:42 < luna> we demand ULO to disappear
19:42 < luna> the police should dissapear
19:42 < luna> the dissapeared should appear
19:42 < luna> and justice should be done
19:42 < luna> from civil society in chiapas
19:42 < luna> the bees from chiapas
19:43 < luna> to the ppl of oaxaca
19:43 < luna> a message from the otehr campaign
19:43 < luna> and the sock
19:43 < luna> ` :P
19:43 < luna> ---
19:43 < luna> music
19:43 < luna> <
19:57  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:08:15 PM CST
19:57 < luna> poem
19:57 < luna> <>
19:57 < luna> to a fascist 
19:58 < luna> big mapache
19:59 < luna> ----
19:59 < luna> --
19:59 < luna> --
19:59 < luna> ======
20:00 < luna> 5 compas taken by the police 
20:00 < luna> snatched
20:00 < luna> with copter
20:00 < luna> people watch out
20:00 < luna> Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:11:16 PM CST
20:00  * luna Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 2:11:16 PM CST
20:00 < luna> radio:compas 
20:00 < lun