Iteration Of Radio APPO Transcript

2nov06 - 4nov06


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16:12  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 10:21:51 AM CST
16:12 < luna> we have to defend freedom of speach
16:12 < luna> speech 
16:12 < luna> and it is really important we have this voice of freedom
16:12 < luna> and the movement need this
16:12 < luna> we have to defend this station
16:13 < luna> do you thing there will be political consecuences 
16:13 < luna> when calderon take the presidentcy?
16:13 < luna> of course
16:13 < luna> this is a national and international issue
16:13 < luna> the repression, the state violence is out there
16:13 < luna> they think they can hide it, but its out there
16:13 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> there are some questions...
16:14 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> fox...
16:14 < luna> compas from the hunger strickes
16:14 < luna> -
16:14 < luna> we ask
16:14 < luna> why the PRD secretary 
16:14 < luna> gave the go ahead to the invasion in oaxaca
16:15 < luna> `PRD is the leftwing national party
16:15 < luna> it is not true
16:15 < luna> we are totally agaist this
16:15 < luna> we have publicly said this
16:15 < luna> we said it shouldnt be like this
16:15 < luna> `blah blah
16:15 < luna> the interview was publish in a national newspaper
16:15 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> we are waiting for a phne in from canada
16:16 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> we have here a compa 
16:16 < luna> who is here 
16:16 < luna> to denounce the dissapearence of her daughter
16:16 < luna> and she is crying outside
16:16 < luna> 3 children in 5 s4enyores have been arrested
16:16 < luna> -
16:16 < luna> canada
16:16 < luna> hello?
16:17 < luna> good morning how are you
16:17 < luna> `?
16:17 < luna> we are frm the justicia y paz comitte
16:17 < luna> and would like to leave a message
16:17 < luna> people from the anglican church and many groups
16:17 < luna> are with you
16:17 < luna> journalists and many people
16:17 < luna> we are watching working day and night
16:18 < luna> and we just want to say we are sending a delegation
16:18 < luna> and demonstrating in the consulate
16:18 < luna> and nothing is going to go unnoticed
16:18 < luna> --
16:18 < luna> we call all neighbourhoods to come to support the university campus
16:19 < luna> a load of trouble in soriana
16:19 < luna> be aware
16:19 < luna> ministerial forces are moving in from there, lorries and moterbikes
16:19 < luna> to our compas fightint the PFP
16:19 < luna> stand back 1 or 2 metres
16:20 < luna> we know of infiltrated within you
16:20 < luna> in 5 senyores
16:20 < luna> stand back 1 or 2 metres
16:20 < luna> to avoid confrontation
16:20 < luna> and safe guard the university
16:20 < luna> we have reports of a lot of ppl coming here
16:20 < luna> -
16:20 < luna> 0
16:20 < luna> 0
16:20 < luna> id like to know where my daughter is
16:21 < luna> i cant find her
16:21 < luna> she has my grandson
16:21 < luna> `might be pregant
16:21 < luna> call me where are you
16:21 < luna> call
16:21 < luna> `crying
16:21 < luna> more for the children 
16:21 < luna> maestro costa
16:21 < luna> if you are with her
16:21 < luna> noone is answering me
16:21 < luna> i need to know how my daighter is
16:22 < luna> we are going to find amanda y anyel pi?a martinez
16:22 < luna> she aslo has a child 
16:22 < luna> a 4 year old
16:22 < luna> we are going to talk to limmedh
16:22 < luna> and find her
16:22 < luna> `limmedh is a HHRR ngo
16:22 < luna> `mexican
16:23 < luna> so we are going to find her 
16:23 < luna> ppl come to the appo desk
16:23 < luna> and go to the national comission for HHRR
16:23 < luna> althought they are not doing much, really but we have to go thru the motions
16:23 < luna> we have a message from cuba
16:23 < luna> -
16:23 < luna> -
16:24 < luna> well they are asking me whay am making jokes from time to tome
16:24 < luna> we'll we will cry later
16:24 < luna> we need to release this tension
16:24 < luna> thru laughter
16:24 < luna> this allow us to keep our spirits up
16:24 < luna> here we continue
16:25 < luna> untill the moment they come and take us in our little chairs and thow us, chairs and all inside the hellicopter
16:25 < luna> in blenamiel santarosa, etc
16:26 < luna> ther is a call out to join the march that
16:26 < luna> will leave from santa rosa
16:26 < luna> attend
16:26 < luna> 4 arrest
16:26 < luna> the rabbit
16:26 < luna> with a hurt hand
16:26 < luna> -
16:26 < luna> -
16:26 < luna> PFP is in lise, 
16:26 < luna> already in the faculty in the east
16:26 < luna> throwing gass bombs already
16:26 < luna> trying to break in
16:27 < luna> the ise side
16:27 < luna> soriana
16:27 < luna> plaza del valle
16:27 < luna> we must stop this animals
16:27 < luna> reinforce that side
16:27 < luna> kee firm
16:27 < luna> but avoid direct confrontation
16:27 < luna> caml
16:27 < luna> sidciplne
16:27 < luna> -
16:27 < luna> -
16:27 < luna> compa talking--
16:27 < luna> hello
16:27 < luna> am 70 years old
16:28 < luna> a have been a peasant
16:28 < luna> and the gov is never gaven anything but alms
16:28 < luna> we are being abused cu we are so poor 
16:28 < luna> we cant buy weapons
16:28 < luna> but liste
16:28 < luna> listen
16:28 < luna> one day 
16:28 < luna> god our lord 
16:28 < luna> i swear one day
16:28 < luna> ---
16:29 < luna> ppl arrested have been taken to the airport
16:29 < luna> ---
16:29 < luna> there is footage that there where more that 15 arrests, not 4
16:29 < luna> we need that footage
16:29 < luna> -
16:29 < luna> there is confirmation of infiltratons
16:29 < luna> watch out
16:29 < luna> --
16:29 < luna> reinforce the uni
16:30 < luna> arrested are being taken to the airport
16:30 < luna> please try to dearrest them on their way
16:30 < luna> ---
16:30 < luna> back to 70 year old compa
16:30 < luna> --
16:30 < luna> NOONEE wants ULO
16:30 < luna> noone
16:30 < luna> everyone is agaist him
16:30 < luna> he is alone
16:30 < luna> everyone
16:30 < luna> why doesnt he goes
16:31 < luna> why so revolution and are opressing us the humble and the poor
16:31 < luna> and to the cop's bosses
16:31 < luna> what are you doing today you are something and tomoroow?
16:31 < luna> we are continue this truggle
16:31 < luna> stryggle
16:31 < luna> struggle
16:31 < luna> we are a peacefull struggle
16:32 < luna> for justice
16:32 < luna> they are robbing us
16:32 < luna> taking the meny to foreign countries
16:32 < luna> i am 70 yers old and have been working all my life
16:32 < ruche>  http://argentina.indymedia.org/  actualizamos
16:32 < luna> and never got a thanks
16:33 < luna> god will punish them
16:33 < luna> they are doing lo pior with the humble
16:33 < luna> "the worse"
16:33 < luna> ===
16:33 < luna> just to say 
16:33 < luna> that the south brigades
16:33 < luna> we cant hear you
16:34 < luna> your mouth is too near the phone
16:34 < luna> san cristobal de las casas
16:34 < luna> mobilisations
16:34 < luna> in cantoche 
16:34 < luna> movilisations with the campesinas
16:34 < luna> in campeches
16:34 < luna> the sit in in DF
16:34 < luna> it continues
16:34 < luna> in cancun
16:35 < luna> they are movilising there
16:35 < luna> the otehr campaign
16:35 < luna> other
16:35 < luna> in cancun
16:35 < luna> is the south in support with the popular assembly of the people of oaxaca
16:35 < luna> ---
16:35 < luna> 0
16:35 < luna> -0
16:36 < luna> they are attacking from the institute od education side
16:36 < luna> -
16:36 < luna> the are breaking in thru the education institude side 
16:36 < luna> we must reinforce
16:36 < luna> we call for everyone to come and reinforce the resistance here
16:36 < luna> gas is being thrown
16:37 < luna> soriana and elise barricades
16:37 < luna> reinforce that 
16:37 < luna> we need people in 5 senyores barricade
16:37 < luna> ppl
16:37 < luna> of la joya and montoya, of la experimental
16:37 < jazz> french summary if needed:
16:37 < jazz> Des gens sont arriv?s et arrivent en nombre des autres quartiers et de villes proches. Des m?dias sont ?galement pr?sents (ce qui peut pousser les policiers ? la retenue). Nouvel appel ? ne pas chercher la confrontation avec les forces du d?sordre lib?ral pour ne pas leur permettre d'utiliser la violence. La radio appelle les gens ? se munir de fleurs pour montrer leur non-violence. Des barricades sont ?rig?es sur les rou
16:37 < jazz> tes. 
16:37 < jazz> Les assaillants sont actuellement bloqu?s dans leur progression vers la radio. C'est bien la "police f?d?rale pr?ventive" (PFP) qui m?ne les op?rations, plusieurs centaines de policiers sont pr?sents. Certaines personnes ont ?t? durement battues avant d'?tre emmen?es par les forces de police, il y a des intrusions dans certaines habitations et des violences ? l'encontre des habitants. Certaines barricades ont ?t? enfon
16:37 < jazz> c?es. Il y a un face-?-face tendu entre les lignes de la PFP et la population. On signale des hommes arm?s derri?re l'universit? et dans divers endroits de la ville, ils utilisent leurs armes pour dissuader les gens d'aller soutenir l'universit?. 
16:37 < jazz> Le recteur de l'universit?, Felipe Martinez, a ?t? retransmis il y a 20 minutes sur la radio APPO: 
16:37 < luna> people form thse neighbourhioods there 
16:37 < jazz> - "Je m'adresse ? toutes les personnes d'Oaxaca et aux autorit?s qui essayent de violer les droites du peuple. Les lutter passent par des moments difficiles, et celui-ci en est un. L'universit? publique est un endroit de dialogues et d'expression des id?es. La radio ne peut pas ?tre r?duite au silence. Le probl?me ne vient pas de l'universit?. Le gouvernement doit ?tre prudent par rapport aux r?percussions de ses actes. Fo
16:37 < jazz> x (ndlr: le pr?sident mexicain) ne devrait pas intervenir, l'universit? d'Oaxaca ets pauvre et marginalis?e, et n'a pas besoin de ces nouveaux ?v?nements. Le seul besoin est le dialogue. L'universit? ne doit pas ?tre prise d'assaut 'it is to assault history' (??)" - 
16:37 < luna> please come out to support 
16:38  * luna jazz read the channels description
16:38 < luna> we have to encircle the university with a human chain
16:38 < luna> abd we have to try to dearrest out people
16:38 < luna> we are in the lise
16:38 < luna> people are defending themselves with stones
16:39 < luna> cuz we are chocking in the gass
16:39 < luna> there are arrests
16:39 < luna> `coughing
16:39 < jazz> Il y a au moins 4 arrestations confirm?es: "El Conejo", 28 ans, Marcelo 12 ans, et deux jeunes de 15-16 ans. 
16:39 < jazz> Une action de protestation a lieu devant l'ambassade du Mexique ? Los Angeles. 
16:39 < jazz> http://liege.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/12864_comment.php#12971
16:41 < luna> th-
16:41 < luna> 0
16:41 < luna> 0
16:41 < luna> brenamiel is blocked
16:41 < luna> police are not letting people thru to come and defend us
16:41 < luna> ppl
16:41 < luna> kee trying 
16:41 < luna> if they dont let you in
16:41 < luna> we are from oaxaca we know the streets
16:41 < luna> look for side streets
16:42 < luna> and come
16:42 < luna> -
16:42 < luna> -
16:42 < luna> we'd like to say to ppl go to education instute reinforce that
16:42 < luna> and also 5 senyores
16:42 < luna> and keep calm
16:42 < luna> dont respond to provocation
16:42 < luna> --
16:42 < bossa> jazz
16:42 < bossa> s-t-p
16:42 < luna> ppl we have to build a human chain
16:42 < bossa> tu peut m'envoyer le texte pour mail
16:42 < luna> around the university
16:43  * luna bosa i already sent mesages to him.
16:43 < bossa> pour mettre à jour indymedia suisse
16:43 < luna> the pgo
16:43 < luna> pfp there are many injured
16:43 < luna> they threw a granade
16:43 < luna> a young compa
16:43 < luna> is really badly hurt
16:43 < luna> we call the people of oaxaca
16:44 < luna> they are hitting us really haard
16:44 < luna> the teachers are defending themselves in trenches
16:44 < luna> a copter has landed here
16:44 < luna> hello
16:44 < luna> -attention
16:44 < luna> the copter has landed in 5 senyores--
16:44 < luna> 0
16:44 < luna> 0
16:44 < luna> 0
16:45 < luna> your servant from the social inverstigations come to the university radio to show 
16:45 < luna> our solidarity and support the 
16:45 < luna> declaration of the rector
16:45 < luna> and as university ppl 
16:45 < luna> we call the community to declare our condition of free speach and freedom movement
16:46 < luna> we have to stresss---
16:46 < luna> ---
16:46 < Sweeper> {I hope someone is recording the stream}
16:46 < luna> sorry but we have to interrupt
16:46 < luna> -
16:46 < luna> in lise
16:46 < luna> the pfp
16:46 < luna> we cant breath anymore
16:46 < luna> they are trying to break in
16:46 < luna> have they broken in yet?
16:46 < luna> no they are at the door
16:47 < luna> -
16:47 < luna> there are 2 assault vans 
16:47 < luna> making arrests
16:47 < luna> we call ppl to build barricades
16:47 < luna> in saladao river
16:47 < luna> cinco senyores
16:47 < luna> rosario
16:47 < luna> build barricades
16:47 < luna> the copter in 5 senyores has landed
16:47 < luna> lets resists
16:48 < luna> we are going to stop them with our barricades
16:48 < luna> we must stop the arresting our people
16:48 < luna> -
16:48 < luna> `back to this university professor giving a 
16:48 < luna> we have to remaint....
16:48 < luna> --
16:48 < luna> compas
16:49 < luna> in this moment the pfp have gone thru the barricade defending the university
16:49 < luna> they are few
16:49 < luna> everyone has to come and defend radio university
16:49 < luna> they ahve to see the poeple--
16:49 < luna> 0
16:49 < luna> in education institute
16:49 < luna> the pfp
16:49 < luna>  are hitting our people really hard
16:49 < luna> repression
16:50 < luna> they are not trying to dosperse us they
16:50  * mexicatl can continue now if luna wants a break
16:50 < luna> are hitting us terribly
16:50 < luna> it is impossible to remain nonviolet under this situation
16:50 < luna> we call everyone to come to support us
16:50 < luna> our peeople
16:50 < luna> out young people are not
16:50 < luna> are now dispersin the police
16:51 < luna> dispersing the police
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> ppl we are many more than them 
16:51 < luna> more that they-5000
16:51 < luna> people
16:51 < luna> we have to stay calm 
16:51 < luna> and we hae to make a human chain arround them
16:51 < luna> we are many more
16:51 < luna> deffentd appo
16:51 < luna> rector
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> --
16:51 < luna> rector--
16:51 < luna> -
16:52 < luna> we have to defend our autonomy
16:52 < luna> we have to do so peacefully
16:52 < luna> ths resistance is a political strategic tactic
16:52 < luna> it is really important that university teachers, all of us answer the call of our rector
16:52 < luna> to defend our autonomy
16:53 < luna> we must fall in the trap of responding to provocations-
16:53 < luna> -
16:53 < luna> we need old t-shirts to protect oursevs against gass
16:53 < luna> -
16:53 < luna> the pfp keeps trying to occupy our city, uni city
16:54 < luna> the last information from education institute
16:54 < luna> our ppl have made the pfp turn back
16:54 < luna> --
16:54 < luna> they are fleeing
16:54 < luna> they are going back
16:54 < luna> the cowards
16:54 < luna> after what they tried
16:54 < luna> thay are turning back
16:54 < luna> we ask the ppl of oaxaca
16:55 < luna> to come protect
16:55 < luna> but be carefull they might get ready to come back
16:55 < luna> but we've turned them back
16:55 < luna> --
16:55 < luna> we see how we are defending our uni against the occupaing forces
16:55 < luna> we are not going to let them do it
16:56 < luna> we are confronting them
16:56 < luna> not even a step back
16:56 < luna> --
16:56 < luna> back to rector's blah blah
16:56 < luna> ---
16:56 < luna> rector:
16:56 < luna> so 
16:56 < luna> our dorector has made a call
16:56 < luna> to fox, the republic's president and to other authorities
16:57 < luna> to ... respect our university
16:57 < luna> an intervention of th epolice would add and aditional element 
16:57 < luna> that wouldn t help the situation
16:57 < luna> --
16:57 < luna> at this moment we ask ppl n oaxaca
16:58 < luna> to not just sound bell churches but also cars
16:58 < luna> --
16:58 < luna> -
16:58 < luna> -
16:58 < luna> we have injured
16:58 < luna> the pfp hit them
16:58 < luna> we also want to say to our doctors to be ready
16:58 < luna> cuz the red cross vans are there on the side of the police and not for our people
16:58 < luna> keep alert
16:58 < luna> in santo domingo 
16:59 < luna> to our compas who are now on santo domingo 
16:59 < luna> the cops might be going there
16:59 < luna> we are not going to let us do this anymore
16:59 < luna> we have many hurt but ppl are not letting themselves be abused we hit back
16:59 < luna> --
16:59 < luna> --
16:59 < luna> people please
16:59 < luna> lets stay calm
17:00 < luna> we must stay peaceful
17:00 < luna> we must avoid the greeat institutional violence
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> --
17:00 < luna> sorry
17:00 < luna> erm
17:00 < luna> i have to interrupt you, but this is blah blah
17:00 < luna> we are not going to let them come in the university
17:00 < luna> we must stop them
17:01 < luna> ==
17:01 < luna> `fucking right
17:01 < luna> --
17:01 < luna> please there are injured and bring them here
17:01 < luna> bring our injured here
17:01 < luna> and please stay cam
17:01 < luna> we are full of hatred and impotence in the face of their 
17:02 < luna> repression but we must remain calm
17:02 < luna> --
17:02 < luna> back to the teacher reading the rector statement, clah
17:02 < luna> blah-
17:02 < luna> 0
17:02 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> this is not the first time that teachers, workers, students of the university
17:03 < luna> come to build a human, peacefull human ring
17:03 < luna> around the university
17:03 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> -
17:03 < luna> we have a cal from lise--
17:03 < luna> cmon cmon
17:03 < luna> we have a problem 
17:04 < luna> in soriana we have state police
17:04 < luna> using a christian church as a base
17:04 < luna> and keep calm we are protecting our radio
17:04 < luna> but we dont want anymore deaths
17:04 < luna> [
17:04 < luna> =there
17:04 < luna> are
17:04 < guerrer> hola
17:04 < luna> 6 tanks in campo del amor
17:05 < luna> and 6 pfp vans going towards simpolos patrios
17:05 < luna> =
17:05 < luna> =
17:05 < luna> call in come in mr tacher
17:05 < luna> we call everyone the pfp is moving towars canvilla
17:05 < luna> and also to the medicas we need you
17:05 < luna> copters are arriving
17:05 < luna> the police fled
17:06 < luna> we call evryone to come and support
17:06 < luna> a compa
17:06 < luna> we have a report that they are sending water tanks to repress us
17:06 < luna> already
17:06 < luna> in 10 there are some students taht turned the cops back 
17:06 < luna> and they are hidding in burger king
17:07 < luna> we can hear the copters
17:07 < luna> `and some bang-shots in the background
17:07 < luna> we need help and support here
17:07 < luna> we have PRI paramilitaries and the army
17:07 < guerrer> 10:55 Reposts on the University Radio of Oaxaca- peole are calling in with report of police shooting tear-gas. A helicopter has landed at the Five Señores and at the admin building of the University of Oaxaca 
17:07 < luna> we need your suppor
17:07 < luna> we must respond
17:08 < luna> the copter is FLYING OVER THE UNIVERSITY CAMPUS
17:08 < luna> WE NEED TO COME AND HELP
17:08 < luna> WE CALL EVERYONE TO KEEP ORGANISED
17:08 < luna> EVEN IF ..
17:08 < luna>  a copter has landed in 5 senyores
17:08 < luna> to everyone
17:08 < luna> for your own dignity
17:09 < luna> to ALL STUDENTS
17:09 < luna> COME AND DEFEND US
17:09 < luna> 3 COPTERS ARE THROWING GASS DOWN IN CIUDAD UNICERSIDAD
17:09 < lupa_uruguay> 3 helicopters are over university
17:09 < luna> 2 OF THEM HAVE LANDED ALREADY
17:09 < luna> WE CALL EVERYONE TO COME DEFEND US FROM THESE WORMS
17:10 < luna> ````COUGHNG
17:10 < luna> `rector
17:10 < luna> `blah blah
17:10 < lupa_uruguay> (they are with breath problems)
17:10 < luna> LOOK THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT TO CALL FOR PEACEFULL SPEECHES
17:10 < luna> WHAT IS GOING ON?
17:10 < luna> THEY ARE BREAKING IN
17:11 < luna> COMPAS LETS BUILD BARRICADES
17:11 < luna> LETS LET THEM KNOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM TOTAKE ONE MORE OF US
17:11 < luna> WHERE ARE THE STUDENTS? WHERE ARE THE WORKERS? THE WHOLE COMUNITY
17:11 < luna> WHERE ARE YOU
17:11 < luna> WE MUST COME HERE
17:11 < luna> MOTHERS OF STUDENT OFFICE WORKERS EVERYONE WE WANT TO SEE U HERE
17:12 < luna> defending us our voice
17:12 < luna> we want to see cathedratics, students defending us 
17:12 < luna> but also defend everyone
17:12 < luna> `````s`hot
17:12 < luna> shots
17:12 < guerrer> 10:57 Two track loads of assailants are roving around the city streets detaining and taking people coming to help the University Radio. Tear-gas is still being shot at the entrance of the University of Oaxaca
17:12 < luna> IN THIS VERY MOMENT 
17:12 < luna> THEY ARE BOMBING THIS VERY BIDING
17:12 < luna> THE RADIO STUDIP
17:13 < luna> STUDIO
17:13 < luna> WE HAVE INJURED
17:13 < luna> THEY ALREADY BROKE INTO THE SPORTS CEntre
17:13 < luna> this is raping the university's autonomy
17:13 < luna> we call ppl
17:13 < luna> to come
17:13 < luna> tanks are already breaking in
17:13 < luna> PEOPLE leave your house
17:13 < luna> HELP
17:14 < luna> SOS
17:14 < luna> come defend your students
17:14 < luna> HOW CAN WE CALL FOR NON VIOLENCE WHEN WE HAVE THE DOING THIS?
17:14 < luna> COPTERS
17:14 < lupa> take photoa and rec with cameras!
17:14 < luna> RAPING OUR RIGHTS
17:14 < luna> THIS IS THE MOMENT WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO
17:14 < luna> WHAEVER WE HAVE TO DO
17:15 < luna> WE ARE NOT GOING TO REMAIN WITH OUR ARMS CROSSED
17:15 < luna> LETs come ut
17:15 < luna> out
17:15 < luna> bring fireworks and whatver we have to bring to stop them
17:15 < luna> this installations are going to be defended till the end
17:15 < luna> they are going to have to kill us
17:16 < luna> we are not going to give them the voice of the people
17:16 < luna> which whatever we have
17:16 < luna> to the end
17:16 < luna> we have no weapons
17:16 < luna> we have our hand s
17:16 < luna> and we have stones and we are standing 
17:16 < luna> out head high
17:16 < luna> our fucking jeart alight
17:16 < luna> heart
17:16 < luna> `and us?
17:17 < luna> `what de fuck are we doing ppl?
17:17  * luna helooooooooooo
17:17  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:28:10 AM CST
17:17 < lupa> (what??)
17:18  * luna call embassies, call email fax hack phone whaever, mexican embassies websites, whatever
17:18  * henning__ is updating an german ticker
17:18  * luna MOBILISE
17:18 < luna> we are going to defend ourselves
17:18 < luna> to all the poepl that are ehlping them
17:18 < luna> it hurts to see
17:19 < gdm> PLEASE ONLY SPEAK IF YOU ARE TRANSLATING FROM THE RADIO STREAM INTO ENGLISH. THIS CHANNEL IS BEING LOGGED AT http://www.iteration.org/radioappo.txt
17:19 < luna> this is our home
17:19 < luna> this is the home of the people
17:19 < luna> anyone would defend their home from thieves
17:19 < luna> assassins 
17:19 < luna> thieves
17:19 < luna> we are defending the home of the people
17:19 < luna> so to tghe people come and help out
17:19 < luna> sound you car horns
17:20 < luna> the church bells
17:20 < luna> WE CAN HEAR SCREAMS
17:20 < luna> HEAR THE screams
17:20 < luna> a copter
17:20 < luna> take pictures
17:20 < luna> compas
17:20 < luna> the video cameras
17:20 < luna> record everything
17:20 < luna> we have to record this 
17:20 < luna> gather all the evidence to show the world
17:20 < luna> IN THIS MOMENT 
17:21 < luna> THE HELLICOMPTER IS LANDING INSIDE THE UNIVERSITY
17:21 < luna> we cant allow this the autonomy
17:21 < luna> URGENt
17:21 < luna> WE NEED FIREWORKD
17:21 < luna> FIREWORKS HERE
17:21 < luna> WE ARE GOING TO DEFEND OUR HOME
17:21 < luna> it is not possible that the neoliberals are going to rape us 
17:22 < luna> those fascist
17:22 < luna> EL YUNQUE
17:22 < luna> take away our rights
17:22 < luna> HASTA LA VITORIA SIEMPRE
17:22 < luna> WE ARE HERE
17:22 < luna> AND HERE WE STAY
17:22 < luna> there are two copters that where throwing bombs over us gass
17:23 < luna> they ahv e now labded
17:23 < luna> landed
17:23 < luna> and are now getting ready to destry us
17:23 < luna> they are bombing our university
17:23 < luna> they invaded our grounds
17:23 < luna> and the air
17:23 < luna> one of our compas was hit in her head
17:23 < luna> they are using violence
17:23 < luna> -
17:23 < luna> 0
17:24 < luna> we want to see those schools and institutions academic institutions
17:24 < luna> we want to see them here NOW 
17:24 < luna> it is very well to do comuniques in the papers 
17:24 < luna> but we have to show our bodies
17:24 < luna> i want to see everyone here
17:25 < luna> her
17:25 < luna> here
17:25 < luna> they are thwoing gass
17:25 < luna> throwing gass
17:25 < luna> -
17:25 < luna> 0
17:25 < luna> caller
17:25 < luna> -
17:25 < luna> PFP is gooing your what 
17:25 < luna> way
17:25 < luna> from technologico
17:25 < luna> urgent call out
17:25 < luna> they are moving towards you
17:25 < luna> many forces
17:26 < luna> everyone
17:26 < luna> about the canal9 barricade
17:26 < luna> 20 vans are moving rapidly towards university radio
17:26 < luna> also
17:26 < luna> the teacher lopex has been arested
17:26 < luna> and we have filmed it
17:26 < luna> so they cant now "dissapear him
17:27 < luna> everyone record
17:27 < luna> a copter
17:27 < luna> AN ARMY copter has already landed in the university
17:27 < luna> to everyone
17:27 < luna> -
17:27 < luna> -
17:27 < luna> phone in-
17:27 < luna> we wabt to tell you
17:27 < luna> that from the catholic church
17:28 < luna> in this moment the pfp are moving back
17:28 < luna> and we'd like to call people to move into university city
17:28 < luna> --
17:28 < luna> we lost the call
17:28 < luna> --
17:28 < luna> about rectoria
17:28 < luna> they already come there
17:28 < luna> but they ddnt see if the copter landed
17:29 < luna> ==
17:29 < luna> we are going to resist
17:29 < luna> what is going one?
17:29 < luna> we need people to bring
17:29 < luna> heavy machinery here to the studia
17:29 < luna> study
17:29 < mexicatl> the chopper didn't land, they just thought it did because it went out of view
17:29 < luna> WE ARE GOING TO DEFEND OURSELVES
17:29 < luna> BRING FIREWORKS
17:29 < luna> BRING PETROL
17:30 < luna> HEAVY MACHINE
17:30 < luna> lets see them put a foot inside radio university
17:30 < luna> lets defend our home
17:30 < luna> but lets keep a distance
17:30 < luna> they are provoking us
17:30 < luna> the copters landed 
17:31 < luna> but thanks to the fact that the people came supported
17:31 < luna> -
17:31 < luna> -
17:31 < luna> 25 vans coming from 5 senyores
17:31 < luna> LETS FILL THE STREETS 
17:31 < luna> WITH PLANKS WITH NAILS AND STOP THEM
17:31 < luna> one of us has been arrested
17:31 < luna> in 5 senyores
17:32 < luna> in the roundabout there
17:32 < luna> a copter has landed
17:32 < luna> --
17:32 < luna> we need to make a human circle around them
17:32 < luna> we are more than them 
17:33 < luna> 0
17:33 < luna> 0
17:33 < luna> we have reports 3000 police are coming
17:33 < luna> we are more than them
17:33 < luna> we know the ground here
17:33 < luna> bring petrol fireworks
17:34 < luna> water pipes
17:34 < luna> our university hs been raped 
17:34 < luna> the building of that represents the education of the people
17:34 < luna> they have raped us already 
17:34 < luna> as they have come into our air
17:34  * mexicatl will take over now
17:35 < luna> and are attcking us with pepper spray
17:35 < mexicatl> they have already violated the autonomy of the unviersity
17:35  * luna mex VAMOS
17:35 < mexicatl> to all those that thought the police would come peacefully, this is your answer
17:35 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca will resits, a new country will be built
17:35 < mexicatl> these are the foundations, the commune of oaxaca
17:36  * luna mex:ill be here, right back we WILL DEFEND OUR RADIO
17:36 < mexicatl> the peaceful insurrection of the people are showing their resitance
17:36 < mexicatl> we felt the gases of the traitors that are the federal police
17:36 < mexicatl> my colleague will talk now
17:36 < mexicatl> --
17:37 < mexicatl> the police tried, but they fell back when we replied with stones and molotovs
17:37 < mexicatl> then they came back with tanks and sent in the choppers
17:37 < mexicatl> because we were united, they had to attack us from the air
17:37 < mexicatl> --
17:38 < mexicatl> more trucks are coming to attack the university
17:38 < mexicatl> there are already parts of the university that are off limits
17:38 < mexicatl> surround the invaders, make human chains
17:38 < mexicatl> we are the people of oaxaca, not some worms of pri-supporters
17:39 < mexicatl> we will stand up to the invaders that have come to massacre the people of oaxaca
17:39 < mexicatl> with the pfp comes letizia toro ?? whom we denounce, that we hate her
17:39 < mexicatl> and that we do not want here there
17:39 < mexicatl> --
17:40 < mexicatl> call from mexico city
17:40 < mexicatl> surrounded in oaxaca
17:40 < mexicatl> ---
17:40 < mexicatl> right now the APPO in mexico city has closed off lazaro cardenas and is ready for anything
17:41 < mexicatl> i want to say that we are not alone, the people of oaxaca
17:41 < mexicatl> we shall not take one step back, we shall stand up to the governor, president and PRI
17:41 < mexicatl> we have closed off lazaro cardenas for an undefined time
17:42 < mexicatl> ---
17:42 < mexicatl> all of mexico is oaxaca
17:42 < mexicatl> there are tear gas attacks on the people at cinco señores
17:42 < mexicatl> the PFP is falling back
17:43 < mexicatl> many people are here supporting us
17:43 < mexicatl> the PFP is falling back
17:43 < mexicatl> --
17:43 < mexicatl> we ask the people to throw gas on top of the tanks
17:43 < mexicatl> to drown the police in gas
17:44 < mexicatl> we have the blood of juarez and the hermanos magon
17:44 < mexicatl> we must start our offensive
17:44 < mexicatl> --
17:44 < mexicatl> do not take risks, be careful
17:44 < mexicatl> we are the people, we are more and we can win
17:45 < mexicatl> peacefully it isn't possible anymore
17:45 < mexicatl> right now we need to be calm
17:45 < mexicatl> --
17:45  * luna call to dowse police vans and officers in petrol
17:45 < mexicatl> throw black paint on the tanks, and gasoline from the rooftops
17:46  * luna not in molotovs - the spirit of ricardo flores magon
17:46 < mexicatl> people of oaxaca, you are ingenous, stop the armored tanks
17:46 < mexicatl> former governor of oaxaca
17:46 < mexicatl> ---
17:46 < mexicatl> he takes the side of the director of the university
17:47 < mexicatl> in attacking the assault on the campus
17:47 < mexicatl> --
17:47 < mexicatl> the door is about to be fall on the campus
17:47 < mexicatl> --
17:47 < mexicatl> he asks the president and the governor to stop the assault on the university
17:48 < mexicatl> my stance is definitive as a oaxacan
17:48 < mexicatl> and to prohibit the entry to all forces into the university campus and not to invade the university
17:48 < mexicatl> as an ex-governor of oaxaca and oaxacan
17:49 < mexicatl> --
17:49 < bossa> no!
17:50 < mexicatl> ask for supplies for the first aid tents
17:50 < mexicatl> the ex-governor was asked to intercede as a representative in mexico
17:50 < mexicatl> the PFP is forcing down the doors on the students
17:51 < mexicatl> the autonomy of the university has been violated from the moment the first tear gas canister hits the ground of the university
17:51 < mexicatl> call for the president to stop this massacre
17:51 < mexicatl> --
17:52 < mexicatl> we make the president responsible, the congress, for the massacre that will occur
17:52 < mexicatl> because we will defend our home, we will not give it up
17:52 < mexicatl> we ask for heavy machineries, fireworks, gasoline, diesel
17:52 < mexicatl> we are defending our commune of oaxaca with dignity
17:53 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca are showing that we will not be quiet because of the violence of the PFP
17:53  * luna mexicatl, lets do it together
17:53 < mexicatl> we will defend our commune
17:53  * mexicatl sure
17:53  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:04:44 PM CST
17:53 < mexicatl> we will defend the university
17:54 < luna> they keep thowing gas bombs
17:54 < luna> they keep overflying our campus
17:54 < luna> they keep intimitating us
17:54 < mexicatl> the choppers continue to rain tear gas on the university
17:54 < luna> we say to calderon
17:55 < luna> if ulises ruiz doesnt leave you will never take the presidency
17:55 < luna> there are people with weapons
17:55 < luna> near the university
17:55 < luna> they intend to give us weapons
17:55 < luna> to seed weapons with us
17:55 < mexicatl> distributing them, we will not accept the arms, not one shot has been fired by us
17:55 < luna> but we are going to keep resisting with what we hae
17:55 < luna> have
17:56 < luna> the police water tanks 
17:56 < luna> have run out of water
17:56 < mexicatl> the water cannons have no more water, we need more heavy machinery to force the police to fall back
17:56 < luna> so we call people to watch out for lorrys that might be bringing water to replentish them
17:56 < luna> lets stop them
17:56 < mexicatl> we need water tanks to reply with the same strategies
17:56 < luna> dont let them replentish their water tanks
17:56 < mexicatl> used pressurized water on them
17:57 < luna> convivendia cristiana building in oaxaca
17:57 < mexicatl> a catholic office serves as HQ for the PFP
17:57 < luna> is being used as a base
17:57 < luna> perhaps the priest is informed of this
17:57 < luna> perhaps the religious sects are involved in this
17:58 < luna> we cal HHRR groups to monitor this situation
17:58 < luna> -
17:58 < mexicatl> perhaps without their knowledge, or perhaps with their suport like with the bells, the religious involvement goes high
17:58 < luna> we pepresent cep
17:58 < luna> --
17:58 < luna> phone in
17:58 < luna> --
17:58 < luna> we say that the church that is acting as mediators
17:58 < luna> are talking to the police
17:58 < luna> are callin the pfp to disperse
17:59 < luna> `line is awful now
17:59 < luna> the pfp has agreed to stand back
17:59 < luna> to retrieve?
17:59 < mexicatl> there is an agreement for the PFP to withdraw from Cinco Señores
18:00 < luna> and from other places, from university
18:00 < mexicatl> --
18:00 < mexicatl> but until we see it we won't believe it
18:00 < luna> we will believe it when 
18:00  * luna he
18:00  * luna fuckers
18:00 < mexicatl> we are still breathing in the tear gas
18:00 < luna> gass bombs have fallen
18:00 < luna> over the church in 5 senyores
18:00 < luna> alsoo inside the university
18:00 < mexicatl> the church informs them
18:01 < luna> we are seing that theyare also throwing us
18:01 < mexicatl> there are also throwing some sort of red gases
18:01 < luna> a red gas
18:01 < luna> our compas have red dust in their faces
18:01  * luna might be to identify them
18:01 < mexicatl> the students are fighting the water cannons
18:01 < luna> they are raping our autonomy
18:01 < mexicatl> shooting water into the houses
18:01 < mexicatl> surrounding the university
18:01 < luna> even the copter are throwing gas
18:02 < mexicatl> with vinegar in hand, we must be ready
18:02 < luna> the police are not discriminating
18:02 < luna> there are children and elderly in the houses where they are throwing gas
18:02 < luna> the red paint 
18:02 < mexicatl> the tear gas that is making us open our eyes to the president we have
18:02 < luna> powder in our faces
18:03 < luna> to build a different oaxaca
18:03 < mexicatl> we will use to to create something, we are being awaken by this
18:03 < mexicatl> to the crude reality of this situation
18:03 < mexicatl> the water tanks must be stopped so that they can't replenish the cannons
18:04 < mexicatl> the people must use their cars and pans to make noise
18:05 < mexicatl> in the name of god, the have bombed the church where people were looking for asylum
18:05 < mexicatl> we must see what the priest says, who will blame us for it
18:06 < mexicatl> perhaps the supposed agreement of withdrawal is to distract us and permit infiltrators
18:06 < mexicatl> --
18:06  * luna mario from sabotage radio has been hurt, a broken arm and a bleeding head
18:06 < mexicatl> we ask for divine intervention
18:06  * mexicatl chingao
18:06  * luna de radio sabotaje
18:07 < mexicatl> you god who is just, protect us and punish them
18:07  * luna line is deteriorating, we are trying to retune
18:08 < luna> they have taken down the appo website
18:08 < mexicatl> our website has been taken
18:08 < mexicatl> the UNAM website has information, and spread the information
18:08 < luna> but people can listen to kehuelga and UNAM, DF webpage 
18:08 < luna> they have a link with the UN
18:09 < luna> they are coming here to the studio
18:09 < luna> we need to make the police stand back 
18:09 < luna> step by step
18:10  * mexicatl can barely make out anything
18:10 < gdm> [helicoptors]
18:11 < luna> phone in
18:11 < luna> --
18:12  * luna it is impossible to understand, the line has deteriorated, and phone ins are impossible to understand. studio audio barely audible
18:12 < mexicatl> brb
18:15 < luna> they keep throwing gas in 5 se?ores
18:15 < mexicatl> the sister station of the UNAM is rebroadcasting/listening to the voice of oaxaca
18:15  * mexicatl warns that some mistake might creep in, it is very hard to make out
18:16 < luna> prisoners are being taken to the airport
18:16 < luna> call for people to raise barricades
18:16 < luna> evrywhere
18:16 < luna> and stop the vans with the prisoners
18:16 < luna> have reports that afi
18:17 < luna> is beating up the compas arrested
18:21 < mexicatl> !  could it be government interference with the radio?
18:22 < gdm> sounds like it might be.. there are all kinds of wierd sounds there
18:23 < mexicatl> yeah, i've tried going over it with an equilizer, but nothing
18:23 < skep> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/
18:23 < killerina> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/ 
18:23 < killerina> try here
18:24 < mexicatl> yeah, much better
18:24 < mexicatl> :)
18:24 < mexicatl> ---
18:25 < luna> Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:35:55 PM CST
18:25  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 12:35:55 PM CST
18:25 < luna> we continue
18:25 < luna> to report the moves of the police
18:25 < mexicatl> there's three reports:
18:25 < luna> against our heroic strggle of our comune
18:26 < luna> the cops are making HQ in a church
18:26 < mexicatl> near the university, in a church, the PFP is staying there
18:26 < mexicatl> phone number for calls
18:26 < mexicatl> call from APPO security representative
18:26  * luna we have to send them an sms sometime
18:26 < luna> PFP have orders to fuck off out of the university
18:26 < mexicatl> the order has been given to the PFP to withdraw from the proximity of the university
18:27 < mexicatl> if in three minutes the PFP hasn't withdrawn, they shall continue with their resistance
18:27 < luna> if in 3 minutes they dont leave we will let them know how 
18:27 < luna> we know how to struggle
18:27 < mexicatl> the mobilization has worked, and the federal government has matured
18:27  * luna like cheese
18:27  * luna they stink
18:28 < mexicatl> ---
18:28 < luna> on the one hand they are told to retrieve
18:28 < luna> on the other they are arresting our compas
18:28 < luna> -
18:28 < luna> i have been prevented from reaching the campus
18:28 < luna> i tried to go there, a phone call is not enough
18:28 < luna> but i tried
18:29 < luna> i still hope to be able to reach you
18:29 < luna> it is not just the cops
18:29 < luna> it is also the PRIistas
18:29 < luna> they want to shut our voices
18:29 < luna> no more victims
18:29 < luna> no more raping our people, our city
18:29 < luna> i am hoping to get around the police seige
18:29 < luna> and join you
18:29 < luna> we must resist
18:30 < luna> you are the voice of the people
18:30  * luna that was a university teacher
18:30 < mexicatl> --
18:30 < luna> director of education institute
18:30 < luna> oops==
18:31 < mexicatl> don't trust the police, but we shall trust them just a little
18:31 < mexicatl> --
18:31 < luna> we dont know if the red stuff was chile habanero of pokil
18:31 < luna> --
18:31 < luna> calling compas in 144
18:31 < luna> we invite everyone to unite
18:31 < mexicatl> to unite with the cause
18:31 < luna> miguatlan and 144
18:32 < mexicatl> we will not permit the radio to be taken
18:32 < luna> join this struggle come down join the defense of this university
18:32 < luna> and this is a call out to not just teachers from 144, but also to all the people
18:32 < mexicatl> --
18:32 < luna> there is a party here and at least we have the chilli already
18:32 < luna> --
18:33 < luna> we have a compa
18:33 < mexicatl> the have forced the PFP to withdraw near to cinco señores
18:33 < mexicatl> --
18:33 < luna> that was in the 5 senyores barricades
18:33 < luna> and is here
18:33 < luna> ==
18:33 < mexicatl> we founded the cinco señores, and we resisted
18:33 < luna> we had the rpiviledge to fight in the barricades in 5 senyores
18:33 < luna> and thanks to the teacher for this example
18:33 < mexicatl> thank you to the teachers for making this people proud and resisting
18:33 < mexicatl> thank you for helping with the struggle
18:34 < luna> and thanksfor being able of taking part this battle
18:34 < mexicatl> to those listening from home, come and participate so that we may not be stepped on
18:34 < luna> this little bit of history of struggle for dignity
18:34 < mexicatl> to take part in this little bit of history
18:34 < luna> abascal everyone was repressed
18:34 < luna> even the church was attaqued
18:34 < mexicatl> in the name of god, mr. abazcal, we were repressed, and even the church wasn't even spared
18:35 < luna> they where throwing water with chilli
18:35 < luna> in places where children and eldry people where
18:35 < luna> -
18:35 < luna> report from the barricades
18:35 < mexicatl> the people needs help, and even those inside their homes where assaulted
18:35 < luna> in ferrocarril
18:36 < luna> a pfp coming in
18:36  * mexicatl hopes someone is making summaries of this
18:36 < mexicatl> asking for coca-cola and vinegar for the eyes
18:36  * luna i think it is beyyer if one of us does it
18:37  * luna and the other just makes sure that if something is missing, it is recorded with /me command
18:37  * luna what do you think mexi?
18:38  * mexicatl that's fine, i'll do the translation, you watch for anything i miss ok?
18:38 < luna> ok
18:38  * luna ok
18:39 < mexicatl> a call from radio planton, thanking for their valor
18:39  * luna particularly will look out stuff like places and names, places, arrested, etc
18:39 < mexicatl> --
18:39  * mexicatl thinks it's good
18:40 < mexicatl> we denounce the intervention of the PFP
18:40 < mexicatl> that the name of our university can't be stepped on
18:40 < mexicatl> --
18:40 < mexicatl> denouncing the assault of the PFP
18:40 < mexicatl> behind the university
18:41 < mexicatl> the police is coming into the radio university
18:41 < mexicatl> we call to look for the infiltrators
18:42 < mexicatl> the PRI-sympathizers followers of this woman are near the back of the university
18:42  * luna rio salado soriana - police re grouping
18:42 < mexicatl> there is no withdrawal from the forces
18:42 < mexicatl> support through the phone is not enough, people are invited into the campus
18:42 < mexicatl> the chains of the ISTE are broken
18:43 < mexicatl> the ministerial police has come in
18:43 < mexicatl> the people from the barricades of Cinco Señores will resist
18:43  * luna police fotographs shooting an r15
18:43 < mexicatl> and have a pictures of shooting by a member of the PFP
18:44 < mexicatl> those at their homes have two choices
18:44 < mexicatl> to be an eyewitness or stay there
18:44 < mexicatl> classes can't start in the this situation, we start to hearing noises
18:45 < mexicatl> the porros of the letizia todo and the ministerial police have come into the campus
18:45 < mexicatl> the withdrawal was only to regroup and recharge their water cannons
18:46 < mexicatl> stop the water tanks, blow the tires so the PFP has more problems
18:46 < luna> we are not giving up this radio
18:46 < mexicatl> have cameras, and phones
18:46 < luna> be carefull compas
18:46 < mexicatl> this documentation is important
18:47 < mexicatl> we need cooked food, we have nothing more
18:47 < mexicatl> --
18:47 < mexicatl> mihuatlan call
18:48 < mexicatl> she accuses them of violating the radio of violating their rights
18:48 < mexicatl> --
18:48 < mexicatl> interrupted
18:48 < mexicatl> --
18:48  * luna ministerial police is breaking into university NOW
18:48 < mexicatl> giving address to listen to radio
18:48 < mexicatl> and other websites
18:49 < mexicatl> in the face of the supposed withdrawal
18:49 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca continues to resist with dignity
18:49 < mexicatl> --
18:49 < mexicatl> there is no withdrawal, the water cannons are being recharged *somewhere*
18:49 < luna> police are refillling tanks in biguera
18:50 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca must resist peacefully
18:50 < mexicatl> people must keep watch from the mountain
18:50 < mexicatl> and inform us so that we are not surprised
18:50 < mexicatl> the PFP is still present near the university
18:50 < mexicatl> under the name of the president fox
18:51 < mexicatl> to all to come out from their homes and defend the commune and their rights
18:52 < mexicatl> the ministerial police is near the accounting faculty
18:52 < mexicatl> --
18:52 < mexicatl> near cinco señores
18:52 < mexicatl> the PFP is still throwing tear gas canisters and pepper spray
18:52 < mexicatl> even into homes
18:52 < mexicatl> pleading to stop because there are children
18:53 < mexicatl> now not only to students but also homes, to children and women in their homes
18:53 < mexicatl> call to come and support the APPO barricades
18:53 < mexicatl> ---
18:53 < mexicatl> a profesor of the law school was detained
18:53 < mexicatl> he is in a black van, asks for it to be stopped
18:54 < mexicatl> --
18:54 < mexicatl> we ask for bottles
18:54 < mexicatl> ...... loss of signal .... back
18:54 < mexicatl> ---
18:54 < mexicatl> i was witness to the assault of the PFP
18:55 < mexicatl> and how the people tried to protect their voice and stood up to their violence
18:55 < mexicatl> call for people to come and protect your home, if they sorround us, then to surround them
18:55 < mexicatl> internationally and nationally we must support
18:56 < mexicatl> the people no longer asks, we demand
18:56 < mexicatl> the people no longer tolerates this desctruction driven by the PRI and ruiz
18:56 < mexicatl> what do you want? the blood of our teachers?
18:57 < mexicatl> no, we need you, we are here to resist those that say they're coming here peacefully
18:57 < mexicatl> we will resist with our heads up high
18:57 < mexicatl> ---
18:57 < mexicatl> call from a university official
18:57 < mexicatl> to come and protect the autonomy of the university
18:57 < mexicatl> we call the people of oaxaca to come and protect the campus
18:58 < mexicatl> listen to the call of radio universidad
18:58 < mexicatl> organize and come
18:58 < mexicatl> fill the streets and advance in the university
18:58 < mexicatl> avoid detentions
18:58 < mexicatl> we much organize from our doors
18:58 < mexicatl> and avoid problems when near the university
18:59 < mexicatl> ---
18:59 < mexicatl> report from university of the cinco señores
18:59 < mexicatl> the students are there and need more help, the people doesn't want any more PFP or ruiz
18:59 < mexicatl> who is causing so much problems
19:00 < mexicatl> they are ringing the church bells
19:00 < mexicatl> we must denounce this, ruiz's days are numbered, he must leave the state
19:00 < mexicatl> ---
19:00 < mexicatl> link with APPO, spokesperson
19:01 < mexicatl> supporting the actions
19:01 < mexicatl> lost...
19:01 < mexicatl> ---
19:01 < mexicatl> we must show ruiz that we're not ready to tolerate this anymore
19:01 < mexicatl> ---
19:02 < mexicatl> we will resist
19:02 < mexicatl> we this metal, we shall not be beaten
19:02  * luna people these are the streams to join, nice secure, stable streams http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/planton.mp3.m3u and http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u
19:02 < mexicatl> call for media to show they have powerful weapons
19:02 < mexicatl> we will resist
19:03 < mexicatl> they have a cartridge from the mexican army
19:03 < luna> 707 caliber 7.62 mm
19:03 < mexicatl> only used by the army and the PFP
19:03 < luna> they dropped this
19:03 < mexicatl> calls for the media national and international so they know we didn't have weapons
19:04 < mexicatl> --
19:04 < mexicatl> on the agreement might be a strategy to disperse and then regroup on the university
19:05 < mexicatl> the PFP might be acting without any real intention of withdrawal
19:05 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca must head to the university
19:05 < mexicatl> we shall not tolerate the invaders
19:06 < mexicatl> if the forces are indeed withdrawing, we must still concentrate on the university
19:06 < mexicatl> communications with italy, also resisting in front of the embassy
19:06 < mexicatl> we must organitze this
19:06 < mexicatl> --
19:06 < mexicatl> we must not leave, and we should stay in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> we must reorganize in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> --
19:07 < mexicatl> shoots fired in the university
19:07 < mexicatl> by paramilitaries and police
19:07 < mexicatl> near the law school
19:07 < mexicatl> with high caliber weapons
19:08 < mexicatl> the PFP is covering the ministerial police
19:08 < mexicatl> three vans with two detained on it's way to the airport
19:08 < mexicatl> we need empty bottles and cocacola
19:08 < mexicatl> at the university
19:09 < mexicatl> also fireworks, gasoline, diesel
19:09 < mexicatl> and for the water tanks to be stopped
19:09 < mexicatl> ---
19:09 < mexicatl> call from california
19:09 < mexicatl> to the warrior people of oaxaca
19:09 < mexicatl> we are witness to the repression that is going on
19:10 < mexicatl> we have denounced it nationally and internationally
19:10 < mexicatl> to the UN and other organizations in geneva and elsewhere
19:10 < mexicatl> in spite of the distance, we are supporting you
19:10 < mexicatl> all across the country in consulates, sit ins are being placed
19:11 < mexicatl> denouncing the inhuman ruiz
19:11 < mexicatl> we are with you and until victory!
19:11 < mexicatl> --
19:11 < mexicatl> these are moments of crisis
19:11 < mexicatl> with police shooting in the university with high caliber weapons
19:12 < mexicatl> we have succeeded in to permitting the PFP the campus
19:12 < mexicatl> we must prevent them from coming on the campus
19:12 < mexicatl> there are already shots fired in the campus
19:13 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca has stood up to the forces and will not stop until they leave
19:13 < mexicatl> links
19:13 < mexicatl> ---
19:13 < mexicatl> a bmw filming people and taking it to the PFP
19:13 < mexicatl> near the Parque del Amor, PFP presence
19:13 < mexicatl> to all organizing to come to the university, do not let them be detained
19:14 < mexicatl> we must be observant, and know the license plate numbers
19:14 < mexicatl> we must film and document, have as much material as possible to document all the forces attacking and oppressing the people of oaxaca
19:15 < mexicatl> let this be the last act of oppression of ruiz
19:15 < mexicatl> we shall not stop since these are his death throws
19:15 < mexicatl> --
19:15 < mexicatl> the APPO
19:15 < mexicatl> says that the PFP is asking for permission to withdraw from the vicinities
19:16 < mexicatl> asking for people to let them retreat
19:16 < mexicatl> they asked for the opportunity to retreat
19:16 < mexicatl> but they also ask for all the choppers to disppear
19:16 < mexicatl> --
19:17 < mexicatl> the people who are with their dead in the cementaries were gassed
19:18 < mexicatl> are they so ignorant that they don't know that is happening?
19:18 < mexicatl> our rights are being oppressed
19:18 < mexicatl> --
19:18 < mexicatl> the water cannons were refilled
19:19 < Nany> cml updating also
19:19 < mexicatl> a colleague was filming people under supposed authorization
19:20 < mexicatl> and her video was removed
19:20 < mexicatl> because they can't give authority
19:20 < mexicatl> it was a reporter from channel 40, abusing the trust
19:20 < mexicatl> filiming people's face
19:21 < mexicatl> and excuses from taking the video to media and channel 40
19:21 < mexicatl> --
19:21 < mexicatl> the water cannons were being refilled with water and acid
19:21 < mexicatl> calls for mobilizations to oaxaca and the campus
19:22 < mexicatl> our force is the mobilization and we must do it to stand up against the powers
19:22 < mexicatl> ! musical break
19:22  * mexicatl did i miss anything?
19:23  * luna not one thing
19:24  * mexicatl ok, need to go to the bathroom then
19:24  * luna no pasaraaaaan!! no pasaraaaan!!!
19:24  * luna :)
19:27 < mexicatl> ! back
19:27 < luna> we just heard a call to students
19:27 < luna> to come protect the university
19:28 < luna> we heard the university himn
19:28  * luna wanna carry on or take a rest?
19:28 < mexicatl> more choppers, probably to drop tear gas
19:28  * mexicatl i'll try a bit more
19:28 < mexicatl> -- call
19:29 < mexicatl> the PFP and the ministerial police are attacking the people
19:29 < mexicatl> choppers flying over
19:29 < mexicatl> throwing tear gas
19:29 < luna> they are attackingthrowing bombs
19:29 < luna> the people are going to burn a lorry
19:29 < mexicatl> they're gonna burn a bus
19:30 < mexicatl> --
19:30 < luna> 2 more copters
19:30 < luna> throwing grandes
19:30 < luna> gas granades
19:30 < mexicatl> the PFP is not up to the size of the people and had to ask for more choppers
19:30 < luna> two more copters, they dont have enought to overcome The People
19:30 < luna> call to mobilise in mexico city
19:31 < mexicatl> mobilize at the zocalo
19:31 < luna> so that the police resources are split
19:31 < luna> --
19:31  * mexicatl ok, let you take over for a bit :)
19:31  * luna oka
19:32 < luna> we need long rage fireworks
19:32 < luna> glass bottles
19:32 < luna> urgently
19:32 < luna> here in radio universidad
19:32 < luna> we need to remembre
19:32 < luna> in romasa
19:32 < luna> cheuadri
19:32 < luna> and 5 senyores
19:32 < luna> we are fighting
19:33 < luna> there are more hercules copters on their ways
19:33 < luna> way
19:33 < luna> be carefull
19:33 < luna> `explosion
19:34 < luna> we can feel the wind from the copters
19:34 < luna> be carefull cuz the are arresing people with copters
19:34 < luna> the vans are back, are refilled wih water
19:34 < luna> it is important we encircle the police
19:34 < luna> we need to seige them
19:35 < luna> we ask for a red cross ambulance
19:35 < luna> our ambulance is not allowed out 
19:35 < luna> we have a seriously injuerd compa
19:35 < luna> there is a confrontation in colon
19:36 < luna> we need to let the cops siege but not so much that they cant retrive
19:36 < luna> they cant leave
19:36 < luna> we have them surrounded
19:36 < luna> but they have to leave somehow
19:36 < luna> sadly
19:36 < luna> in 5 senyores anther of our compas has been arrested
19:36 < luna> it was the pfp
19:36 < Coyote^> http://www.asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com/boletines/
19:36 < luna> we have to be very careful
19:37 < luna> the PFP has broken the seige with 3 tanks
19:37 < luna> we have to force them to retrieve
19:37 < luna> the poeple of oax are resisting
19:37 < luna> the MP have come in thru the education building
19:38 < luna> dressing grey
19:38 < luna> we need urgently water with vinegar in 5 senyores
19:38 < luna> 2 parts water one vinegar
19:38 < luna> soak a t-shirt
19:38 < luna> the rector 
19:38 < luna> neri
19:38 < luna> is now trying to 
19:39 < luna> front the circle around th pfp
19:39 < luna> we need to locate him
19:39 < luna> and stay next to him
19:39 < luna> so that they dont beat him or us
19:39 < luna> in panteon general
19:39 < luna> people have been beaten
19:39 < luna> which is a violation f our culture
19:40 < luna> we call all of oaxaca to come down to d university 
19:41 < luna> bring coke, rags, vinegar, fireworks etc
19:41 < luna> to kee organised
19:41 < luna> all the police corps 
19:41 < luna> are here
19:41 < luna> it is important that everywhere we stay organised and
19:41 < luna> we call everyone to raise up everywhere
19:42 < luna> if the police is there, stay organised
19:42 < luna> move barricades to university campus
19:42 < luna> we also have reports that they are trying to bring in weapons to the university
19:42 < luna> thru the door the already broke down
19:42 < luna> take pictures of this
19:43 < luna> the only weapons we have is our voice, our hands
19:43 < luna> it is not true we have weapons
19:43 < luna> we need to prove that the PRI and ULO police are planting weapons here
19:43 < luna> urgently we need a
19:44 < luna> an ambulance a red crosse ambulance
19:44 < luna> we have a compa with a broken head
19:44 < luna> broken skull
19:44 < luna> they are not going to allow anyother ambulances in
19:44 < luna> as an international organisation have to come here
19:45 < luna> `they reported earlier that the red cross was refusing to help appo, and only staying with PFP
19:45 < luna> we have heard that we have sabotaged 2 tanks already
19:45 < luna> made them useless
19:45 < luna> great
19:45 < luna> but make sure that we really put them out of service
19:45 < luna> so they cant use them agaoin
19:45 < mexicatl> set them on fire, but needs to be done well so that they will be useless
19:45 < luna> diesel
19:45 < luna> petrol
19:46 < luna> vinegar
19:46 < luna> we need all of this
19:46 < luna> one of our ppl are beng kidnapped in plain cars
19:46 < luna> we need paint stripper
19:47 < luna> to screw the electricity system of the tanks
19:47 < luna> also need burned oil
19:47 < luna> to throw it to the windscreens
19:47 < luna> and cant see
19:47 < luna> take
19:47 < luna> shit
19:47 < luna> black ppaint
19:47 < luna> whaever
19:47 < luna> ad throw it to their windscreen
19:47 < luna> PEOPLE
19:47 < luna> the police are only 10000
19:47 < luna> and we are many more
19:47 < luna> `???
19:48 < luna> the've been here and we want them to leave and never come back
19:48 < luna> peope with cinta canela, foreworks, petrol
19:48 < luna> bring them and come here
19:48 < luna> we must avoid mass arrests
19:48 < luna> wherever we are
19:49 < luna> come to the streets
19:49 < luna> we cant just wait and see
19:49 < luna> the people have to activate
19:49 < luna> the everyone
19:49 < luna> let let them know
19:49 < luna> that we are against corruption 
19:49 < luna> and that we are not giving in to repression
19:49 < luna> ni un paso atra
19:49 < luna> atras
19:50 < luna> lets take shit in bags 
19:50 < luna> and take them to the poepl infront of the police
19:50 < luna> and throw it to them
19:50 < luna> we'd like to take to the hotels union
19:50 < luna> come to the university
19:50 < luna> compas from the hotel unions
19:51 < luna> enought that all the meny from tourism
19:51 < luna> only ends up in the pockets of a few ppl
19:51 < luna> time to stop that
19:51 < luna> time to end that
19:51 < luna> compas
19:51 < luna> we have a call out to 
19:51 < luna> meet with the international press
19:52 < luna> but the good press not the fuckers that have been reporting lies
19:52 < luna> we must get out and lay down white sheet 
19:52 < luna> sheets
19:52 < luna> wherever the copters try to land
19:53 < luna> so the wingiw things get stuck with the white sheets
19:53 < luna> the red cross is not coming
19:53 < luna> not coming
19:53 < luna> so we have to take them out
19:53 < luna> -
19:53 < luna> -
19:54 < luna> report from 5 senyores t
19:54 < luna> they brke in wth a tank
19:54 < luna> and our ppl are dispersing again
19:54 < luna> they came in with their tanks and gasses
19:54 < luna> and we plead to the people of oaxaca 
19:54 < luna> to come to helpp 
19:54 < luna> they are going towards radio universidad
19:55 < luna> one block away
19:55 < luna> people take the streets
19:55 < luna> stop supporting fox and that murderer
19:55 < luna> it is incredible what they are doing to protect a murderer
19:55 < luna> please neighbours
19:55 < luna> go on the roofs 
19:55 < luna> and throw petrol over police vans
19:55 < luna> -
19:56 < luna> angel santos galego 
19:56 < luna> a professor is the man hurt
19:56 < luna> and came here to do his duty
19:56 < luna> and we have to get him out to hospital
19:56 < luna> as the red cross is refusing to come
19:57 < luna> --
19:57 < luna> we know that in the radio
19:57 < luna> and tv
19:57 < luna> they are broadcasting just 
19:57 < luna> the recording of this radio broadcast 
19:57 < luna> that are incendiary
19:57 < luna> not the rest
19:57 < luna> --
19:57 < luna> that guy in the mass media
19:58 < luna> in milenio
19:58 < luna> im sorry for him 
19:58 < luna> what a guy
19:58 < luna> if the repressors ever broke into his house
19:58 < luna> he will just go and hide
19:58 < luna> how sad
19:58 < luna> ---
19:58 < luna> we need glass bottles
19:58 < luna> --
19:58 < psuedo> APPO asks for empty bottles
19:58 < psuedo> Cola sodas
19:59 < luna> the social security building 
19:59 < luna> was a secure building to take our injured
19:59 < psuedo> and fireworks
19:59 < luna> but right now we
19:59 < luna> dont know 
19:59 < luna> if this is still that case
19:59 < luna> we need information
19:59 < luna> please nurses and doctors call in so we know
19:59 < luna> if it is safe to take our injured there
20:00 < luna> the ones that need to be intervened
20:00 < luna> --
20:00 < luna> --
20:00 < luna> teacher,
20:00 < luna> we need to know
20:00 < luna> no
20:00 < luna> it looks like they are coming thru "la noria" now
20:00 < luna> we dont care 
20:00 < luna> if they are rebroadcasting sniplets
20:01 < luna> from our radio
20:01 < luna> --
20:01 < luna> if they are doing that am gonna say something they are not going to rebroadcast
20:01 < luna> --
20:01 < luna> people you have to understand
20:01 < luna> if you have a heart, and have alma mater
20:01 < luna> please, act
20:02 < luna> we have to defend our university
20:02 < luna> it doesnt matter where you graduated from 
20:02 < luna> we have to defend our universities-
20:02 < luna> --
20:02 < luna> we never imagined something like this
20:02 < MM> http://vientos.info/cml/?q=node/6185 English - not actual, needs translators?
20:02 < luna> we are in a virtual war
20:03 < luna> we are trying to break the police siege
20:03 < psuedo> I will translate it MM
20:03 < luna> like comamnder che guevara
20:03 < luna> we are looking for ways to break this siege
20:03 < luna> they are shooting at us
20:03 < luna> the tanks
20:03 < luna> the gass
20:04 < luna> we have this situation in front of us
20:04 < luna> we never imagined
20:04 < luna> we are just trying to defend out city
20:04 < MM> http://vientos.info/cml/ 
20:04 < luna> before that the fascists, he yunque, the extreme right
20:04 < luna> trying to liquidate us
20:04 < luna> --
20:05 < luna> we need to get our proffessor compa out to hospital
20:05 < luna> we need to know if it is safe for him
20:05 < luna> -
20:05 < luna> people are asking how is the channel40 compa
20:05 < luna> that was hurt
20:05 < luna> --
20:05 < luna> she is ok, she is alright, we returned her camera
20:05 < luna> we checked the facts
20:05 < luna> she is not kidnapped
20:06 < luna> she is allright, not hurt
20:06 < luna> and she now has her equippment again so she ca report the truth
20:06 < luna> hopefully well have hre saying something here later
20:06 < luna> ---
20:06 < luna> so you dont worry about your collage
20:06 < luna> -
20:06 < luna> 0
20:07 < luna> liliana santiago is missing her family want to get in touch with her
20:07 < luna> --
20:07 < luna> in cnn in spanish
20:07 < luna> they are saying that the PFP haven come in the university
20:07 < luna> this is not true
20:07 < luna> -
20:07 < luna> -
20:07 < luna> we need coke
20:07 < luna> vinegrar
20:07 < luna> pain stripper
20:07 < luna> petrol
20:07 < luna> fireworks
20:07 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> so we have the channel40 workers so you can see
20:08 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> -
20:08 < luna> -we have a phon ein
20:08 < luna> --
20:08 < luna> at this moment the helicopers are throwing gas every and each place where ppl are resisting
20:08 < luna> indiscriminado
20:08 < luna> they are shooting gas inside the houses
20:09 < luna> people's house
20:09 < luna> everywhere and grenades everywhere
20:09 < luna> the are doing this to defend this murderer
20:09 < luna> we call anone listening via internet
20:09 < luna> to call fox and tell him to stop this
20:09 < luna> -
20:09 < luna> 09034 patrol
20:10 < luna> is going to hq with detained/ stop them
20:10 < luna> --
20:10 < luna> the "kidnapped" journalist speaking
20:10 < luna> am ok
20:10 < luna> its cool, have my equipment and everything and am ok
20:10 < luna> --
20:10 < luna> the guy from el milenio
20:11 < luna> says that he is just reporting what is happening here and he asks us to say that he is just
20:11 < luna> informing what is happening
20:11 < luna> and is being impartial
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> more arrests
20:11 < luna> towards the airport. stop them
20:11 < luna> --
20:11 < luna> a PFP tank is burning now
20:11 < luna> ppl are really angry
20:12 < luna> in the petrol station in 5 senyores
20:12 < luna> we have to be carefull around that petrol stations
20:12 < luna> --
20:12 < luna> we have to suport our people
20:12 < luna> we are going to give this `PFP and example of struggle
20:12 < luna> --
20:12 < luna> everyone 
20:12 < luna> all the people coming to support
20:13 < luna> we have to distribute ourselves thruout the startegic point around the university
20:13 < luna> so that the police leave - like they are starting to do
20:14 < luna> -
20:14 < luna> -
20:15 < luna> do anything you can do
20:15 < luna> -Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 2:26:34 PM CST
20:15 < barbarossa> in mexico df a demonstration is going on to the policestations of the pfp
20:15  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 2:26:34 PM CST
20:15 < luna> we have a demo in DF that is heading towards PFP HQ
20:16 < luna> we took he main axis of the poeple for some hours
20:16 < luna> hundreds of us are now going to PFP offices
20:16 < luna> we are going to build a road block
20:16 < luna> so that the PFP leaves oaxaca
20:17 < luna> bring canela tape
20:17 < luna> diesel
20:17 < luna> mutiatic acid
20:17 < luna> petrol
20:17 < luna> to the university
20:17 < luna> --
20:17 < luna> phone in
20:17 < luna> --
20:17 < luna> a tank is burning and they are standing back
20:17 < luna> the pfp are leaving
20:17 < luna> are abandonin 5 senyores
20:18 < luna> although a copter is throwing gas grenades all over the place--
20:18 < luna> --
20:18 < luna> we have another phone calll bye compa
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> bring fireworks
20:18 < luna> vinegar 
20:18 < luna> bruned oil
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> ---
20:18 < luna> we have a child
20:18 < luna> a seriously inured boy
20:19 < luna> seriously injured because of the gass
20:19  * mexicatl will take over at the :30 for a bit, let luna rest a bit
20:19 < luna> --CARAJO
20:19 < luna> --
20:19 < luna> phone in from demo in DF
20:19 < luna> --
20:19 < luna> there are hundred of organisations here
20:19 < luna> and we are planning a caraban
20:19 < luna> and let us know 
20:20 < luna> how things are going cuz we are not moving till you tel us
20:20 < luna> --
20:20 < luna> --
20:20 < luna> and the fucking red cross is not coming
20:20 < luna> what a democratic institution
20:21 < luna> we have two people, one child seriously injured
20:21  * luna PPL CAN WE CAL THE FUCKING RED CROSS?
20:21 < luna> ---APPO phone call
20:22 < luna> brothes, sister
20:22 < luna> the provisional direction of appo says
20:22 < luna> we call to the raising of barricades all over the city
20:23 < luna> even when the police is gassing people
20:23 < luna> we call for a general people
20:23 < luna> uprising
20:23 < luna> we call for an uprising
20:23 < luna> everywhere
20:23 < luna> build barricades
20:23 < luna> against the invader
20:23 < luna> NI UN PASO ATRAS
20:24 < luna> ---
20:24 < luna> compas
20:24 < luna> if our granparents won the french army
20:24 < luna> and that blood is inside us
20:24 < luna> riseup
20:24 < luna> --
20:25 < luna> if the govenment calls for the PFP to retrieve
20:25 < luna> lets only open up our circle around them in one point
20:26 < luna> and we dont just want them outside our university 
20:26 < luna> or out of our city
20:26 < luna> we want them out of the whole oaxaca
20:26 < luna> we call everyone in this country
20:26 < luna> mobilise
20:26 < luna> let the PFP leave 
20:26 < luna> --
20:26 < luna> we hope that the PFP leave our city
20:26 < luna> arturo chavez
20:27 < luna> from the governmet
20:27 < luna> has ordered the national, the federal police to withdraw
20:27 < luna> --
20:27 < luna> we want to see them leave
20:27 < luna> NOW
20:27 < luna> we are going to, firmer than ever,
20:27 < luna> watch them how they withdraw
20:27 < luna> --
20:28 < luna> we need more compas in chelawi
20:28 < luna> that are chasing the PFP
20:28 < luna> --
20:28 < luna> companyeros
20:28 < luna> we are surrounding the police
20:28 < luna> exgobernor
20:28 < luna> president of the police
20:28 < luna> the people of oaxaca are surrounding you police
20:29 < luna> so we give you the ultimatum
20:29 < luna> withdraw your troops
20:29 < luna> the people of oaxaca has answered the call
20:29 < luna> we have you surrounded
20:29 < luna> --
20:29 < luna> we want those hellicopters out
20:29 < luna> to see them leave
20:30 < luna> as a first sign, NOW 
20:30 < luna> that they are withdrawing
20:30 < luna> the same copters you used to take our people prisoners
20:30 < luna> you are going to use now to BRING THEM BACK
20:30 < luna> --
20:30 < luna> we are showing how 
20:30 < luna> we hate the national police
20:31 < luna> the PFP
20:31 < luna> --
20:31 < luna> the army is leaving
20:31 < luna> we have managed to ( FUCK THEM )
20:31 < luna> `not literal translation
20:31 < luna> every1
20:31 < luna> around the world is demanding that ULO leaves
20:32 < luna> the students are showing again how we are pushing the federal army
20:32 < luna> the people
20:32 < luna> we are winning
20:32 < luna> `oeeee, oeeee
20:32 < luna> we demand the freedom of all of ouur prisoners
20:32 < luna> we demand ULO out
20:33 < luna> we demand tat Fox, the president gies the orther to leave oaxaca
20:33 < luna> we wil not stp till we see those bastards out of power
20:33 < luna> we are demonstrating we are a heroic people
20:33 < luna> we call people as well as monitoring the withdrawal of troops
20:34 < luna> to also build new barricades to make sure they dont come back
20:34 < luna> --
20:34 < luna> we realise that the copters over oaxaca are
20:34 < luna> throwing gas grenades
20:34 < luna> inside peoples houses
20:34 < luna> thousands of people are flooding to 5 senyores round about
20:34 < luna> and the copters are throwing gas eevrwhere
20:35 < luna> we call for the withdrawal of all troops 
20:35 < luna> we dont want you here
20:35 < luna> you thought is would be easy?
20:35 < luna> we are being brave
20:35 < luna> we want you out
20:35 < luna> we know we cant trust you
20:35 < luna> we never trust you
20:36 < luna> remember that they said the wouldnt come into our city and they did
20:36 < luna> it is with our money that you buy those very gasses you are throwing on us
20:36 < luna> if you want a way out
20:36 < luna> if you wat a peaceful outcome
20:36 < luna> we want our political prisoners
20:36 < luna> and we demand ULO out
20:37 < luna> rememer that they said "in the name of god"
20:37 < luna> they wouldnt use force
20:37 < luna> they did
20:37 < luna> --
20:37 < luna> we have reports our injured have reached a hospital
20:37 < luna> --
20:37 < luna> we are seeing now 
20:37 < luna> how tha copters are low flying 
20:38 < luna> and shooting gas grenades thru the windows of the people
20:38 < luna> --
20:38 < luna> we are infirmed that they are leaving the 5 senyores 
20:38 < luna> crossing
20:38 < luna> `claps and cheers in the back ground
20:39 < luna> we have to carry on struggling 
20:39 < bossa> ramona el compa Angel Santos Gallegos ya lleva horas caíd con traumatismo craneoencefálico, se ruega alguien pueda armar una Acción Urgente de derechos humano
20:39 < luna> we must have our people released
20:39 < luna> we want them back in the exact same vehicles
20:39 < luna> they used to take the away
20:39 < luna> we have confirmation that 
20:39 < luna> they are leaving
20:40 < luna> ground troops are leaving
20:40 < luna> but that also the copters keep shootint
20:40 < luna> shooting hot gas canisters
20:40 < luna> and we have to be carefull
20:40 < luna> that they dont blow up the petrol station
20:40 < luna> ---
20:40 < luna> we have reports that the mass media
20:41 < luna> is reporting on the injured cops
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> also they have offered the cathedral to hold peace talks
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> indy brasil
20:41 < luna> jehuelga
20:41 < luna> ke huelga
20:41 < luna> and in argentina
20:41 < luna> we have messages of support
20:41 < luna> --
20:41 < luna> we cant sing victory yet
20:41 < luna> -- 
20:41 < pwd_ror> supporto from italy too
20:41 < luna> we have to take the opportunity to re organise ourselves
20:42 < luna> -
20:42 < luna> -
20:42 < luna> APPO phones in
20:42 < luna> ---
20:42 < luna> we want to confirm they are withdrawing
20:42 < luna> --
20:42 < luna> we have many many injured in university avenue
20:42 < luna> many
20:42 < luna> children elderly, etc
20:43 < luna> we need ambulances
20:43 < luna> ULO propaganda is saying that we bombed the panteon and some neighbourhoods
20:43 < luna> --
20:43 < luna> back to appo phone in
20:43 < luna> --
20:43 < luna> the secretary of gobernance 
20:43 < luna> has call a withdrawal
20:44 < luna> and we can feel they are obeyng
20:44 < luna> they are leaving
20:44 < luna> but we have to build barricades behind them
20:44 < luna> and also accompany them all the way to the airport
20:44 < luna> q- what are we going to do with our prisoners?
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> back
20:45 < luna> -
20:45 < luna> we are not going to allow 
20:45 < luna> we think that the next step they are 
20:46 < luna> planning is
20:46 < luna> to movilise the army
20:46 < luna> and prisoners have to be freed
20:46 < luna> --
20:46 < luna> we wanna take the whole of the people of oaxaca
20:46 < luna> to all those that are coming down from the north and surrounding areas
20:47 < luna> that it is true they are leaving 
20:48 < luna> but we need to se our prisoners out go to airport
20:48  * luna am i the only one smiling at a circus show? on ULO the clown?
20:48 < luna> ULI
20:48 < luna> ULO
20:48 < luna> on his eviction show?
20:50 < luna> people united shall never be defeated
20:50 < luna> song
20:51 < cpunkpunk> luna any idea of how many ppl r on the streets?
20:51  * luna they are playing this song over the broadcast
20:51  * luna millions
20:51 < cpunkpunk> :)
20:51  * luna everyone, with people coming from the countryside too, that why they are fucking off
20:51 < XaViER> what is the name of this song?
20:53 < XaViER> "people united shall never be defeated" is the name?
20:53 < luna> Quilapay?n / Sergio Ortega, 1970, Chile
20:53 < luna> yes thats it
20:53 < luna> they are playing exactly this songs
20:54 < luna> http://www.marxists.org/subject/art/music/index.htm
20:54 < XaViER> thanks luna, youre doing GOOD JOB :-)
20:54 < luna> bunch of reds they are
20:54 < luna> ;)
20:54 < Coyote^> hehehe
20:54 < luna> youll find the translations to the lyrics there
20:55 < luna> 'cmon weve been listening to the same songs for days now
20:55 < luna> "venceremos" is coming
20:55 < luna> take bets
20:55  * luna ANYWAY
20:55 < luna> --
20:55 < luna> --
20:55 < luna> call out to general uprising 
20:55 < luna> and to build barricades
20:56 < luna> --
20:56 < luna> detained
20:56 < luna> isabel galindo
20:56 < luna> hector acsta
20:56 < luna> someone else
20:56 < luna> arrested
20:56 < yuri> amado aguilla
20:56 < luna> students
20:56 < luna> cheers
20:56  * luna can you paste the names in #mexico - for comite cerezo and limeddh
20:57  * luna can someone make sure we get the name of all our injured compas, and dissapeared, and arrested? can some take on writting them down?
21:01 < yuri> amado aguillar 
21:01 < yuri> damn memory
21:01 < luna> 3 detained from ciencias politicas UNAM- DF university
21:01 < luna> same as before
21:01 < luna> isabel galindo
21:01 < luna> 	luna	hector acsta
21:02 < luna> unam students that went down to help resistance in oaxaca
21:02 < luna> from mexico city
21:02 < luna> there are a lot of compas from up there
21:02 < luna> helping out the resistance
21:02  * luna sing along
21:03 < luna> --
21:03 < luna> --
21:03 < luna> it is important to bring our injured to the sos point in uni
21:03 < luna> also to 7 pricipes
21:03 < luna> and in av periferico
21:03 < luna> and iste
21:03 < luna> we have to mobilize out injured
21:05 < luna> we have to confirm
21:05 < luna> we are being told that the PFP is going to the zocalo square
21:05 < luna> people have been seen carrying gas bomb undercover as delivery boys
21:06 < luna> we cant thing that they are retrieving we
21:06 < luna> have to keep alert
21:06 < luna> we have to keep those bastards out
21:06 < luna> it is important to keep toguether and use discipline 
21:07 < luna> make sure we know everyone that has been arested, etc
21:07 < luna> -
21:07 < luna> one thing worries me
21:07 < luna> when you win
21:07 < luna> some of us are tired
21:07 < luna> some are calling to gather
21:07 < luna> and chase them and hit them 
21:07 < luna> in the airport and in zocalo
21:07 < luna> now that we are strong
21:08 < luna> people gave it all here when we were surrounded
21:08 < luna> here in the university
21:08 < luna> we know that
21:08 < luna> we are not trying to split ppl
21:08 < luna> whoever has the energy
21:08 < luna> cool go for it
21:08 < luna> but we cant force people 
21:08 < luna> to chase the PFP out
21:09 < luna> we must make string
21:09 < luna> strong
21:09 < luna> -
21:09 < luna> the people of oaxaca 
21:09 < luna> have shown we are SO strong
21:09 < luna> --
21:09 < luna> we are also informed that the hellicopter are flying over oaxaca
21:09 < luna> we won a battle
21:10 < luna> NO PASARAN COMPA?eros
21:10 < luna> we have shown the word
21:10 < luna> --
21:10 < luna> we are informed that paramilitaries went to panteon general
21:10 < luna> and beat people there who where conmemorating our dead
21:11 < luna> same old, same old
21:11 < luna> --
21:11 < luna> twice they shoot us with firearms in the morning
21:11 < luna> we have to be careful 
21:11 < luna> cuz they will keep running around the city doing the same
21:11 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> we have reports that people in 5 senyores
21:12 < luna> are celebrating
21:12 < luna> but celebrating orderly
21:12 < luna> building back barricades
21:12 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> this is a historic victory
21:12 < luna> --
21:12 < luna> am a student
21:12 < luna> we where resisting for more that 4 hours in a barricade
21:12 < luna> we gave an example of resistance
21:13 < luna> 4 hours
21:13 < luna> and the we chase them out
21:13 < luna> our people are an example
21:13 < luna> not just saying
21:13 < luna> but resisting
21:13 < luna> --
21:13 < luna> we must reorganize
21:14 < luna> if we want everything to go our way 
21:14 < luna> and we want the PFP
21:14 < luna> we must reorganise
21:14 < luna> better that we did today
21:14 < luna> --
21:14 < luna> we have a comunique from APPO
21:14 < luna> -
21:14 < luna> -
21:14 < luna> florentino:
21:14 < luna> we have managed to win this struggle today
21:14 < luna> these hours are crucial
21:15 < luna> we are winninf politically and in the streets
21:15 < luna> in the struggle
21:15 < luna> we have a conection with father ubi
21:15 < luna> the comunication with governement secretary
21:15 < luna> they have called for a withdrawal
21:15 < luna> padre ubi:
21:16 < luna> the church of botello has answer the call to collaborate in this process
21:16 < luna> this morning we talked to the gobernement asking them to go
21:16 < luna> ther is going to be a meeting of lawyer
21:17 < luna> with the lawyer of the PFP
21:17 < luna> and they are going to come with very good 
21:17 < luna> accords
21:17 < luna> lets see if we come to a just outcome
21:18 < luna> and congratulations to everyone participating in the resistance
21:18 < luna> and i call to find a good outcome
21:19  * luna curious call out. coincidence?
21:20 < luna> --
21:20 < luna> they threw everything to us
21:20 < luna> shot
21:20 < luna> -
21:20 < luna> -
21:20 < luna> id like to denounce that my son was kidnapped today
21:20 < luna> and i hold the gobernment responsible
21:20 < luna> and that our prisoners are (marvin peralta hernandez)
21:21 < luna> are treated like human beings,, that they are not raped
21:21 < luna> even in this situation
21:21 < luna> we have to stay firm. adelante companyerxs
21:21 < luna> --
21:22 < luna> we have to look at what we need in terms of first aid
21:22 < luna> we need maestro so and so
21:22 < luna> to come here and support us 
21:22 < luna> he was doing massage during the march 
21:22 < luna> and we need you here
21:22 < luna> --
21:22 < luna> message from mario
21:23 < luna> dad
21:23 < luna> am ok
21:23 < luna> i just where fighting for the people of oaxaca
21:23 < luna> they hit me with a stone in the head and have a ( chichon )
21:23 < luna> but am ok
21:23 < luna> hasta la victoria
21:23 < luna> --
21:24 < luna> we must keep 5 senyores reinforced
21:26 < luna> --
21:27  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 3:38:01 PM CST
21:27 < luna> we need a list of everyone arrested in this side of the university early
21:28 < luna> guarita says 
21:28 < luna> "i am ok"
21:28 < luna> so that her family are not worried
21:28 < luna> we have won this battle but lets keep fighting 
21:28 < luna> in la carbonera de la noria
21:28 < luna> a caller suggest that we surround the police there
21:29 < luna> so they cant get out
21:29 < luna> ==
21:29 < luna> caller
21:29 < MM> please edit also into: http://cxs2.info/w/index.php?title=Death_Imprisoned_Oaxaca
21:29 < luna> thanks to the priest there for opening the church to help pur injured
21:29 < luna> our
21:30  * luna some fucker in the capitalism media is going to sat that appo is not a popular movement in oaxaca
21:30  * luna or like the BBC the other day:"little resistance"
21:31 < luna> we will continue
21:31 < luna> utill the tyrant ULO gets out once and for all
21:31 < luna> and till the cops leave our state
21:31 < luna> --
21:32  * luna sounding: en la huelga nacional song
21:33 < luna> ---
21:33 < luna> --
21:34 < luna> javier colmenares has been arrested
21:34 < luna> the dogs of the upoe
21:34 < luna> have taken him away
21:34 < luna> and they bastards that did it have been identified
21:34 < luna> so watch out
21:34 < luna> to all teachers
21:34 < luna> be careful
21:35 < luna> colmenares has been taken away
21:35 < luna> they are talking some of us to the air base in "la raya"
21:35 < luna> people in "la colula"
21:35 < luna> we need to know where they are talking our people
21:36 < luna> ---
21:36 < luna> we want to rescue javier moreno colmenares
21:36 < luna> and all of our people that are dissapeared
21:36 < luna> --
21:37 < luna> we are asked to tel you
21:37 < luna> please 
21:37 < luna> lets gather all the gass grenades
21:37 < luna> they threw at us
21:37 < luna> all those cans 
21:37 < luna> we can recycle them or we can use them to denounce the repression
21:37  * luna :)
21:38 < luna> javier was carrying some documents that are really important
21:38 < luna> and we dont want to identify him on air
21:38 < luna> so please get in touch with your wife
21:38 < luna> and lets keep working
21:38 < luna> and fighting for the release og our compas
21:39 < luna> HASTA LA VICTORIA COMPAS
21:39 < luna> --
21:39 < luna> also people are asking to thank the 
21:39 < luna> churches that rang their bells
21:39 < luna> ---
21:39 < luna> we are really deeply proud
21:39 < luna> we managed to get them out of here
21:39 < luna> but
21:39 < luna> we havent won the war
21:39 < luna> this was a batttle
21:39 < luna> we need
21:39 < luna> glass bottles
21:40 < luna> paint stripper
21:40 < luna> diesel
21:40 < luna> fireworks 
21:40 < luna> and so on
21:40 < luna> --
21:40 < luna> invited
21:40 < luna> woman in the studio
21:40 < luna> a drop in
21:40 < luna> they are a bunch of bastards
21:40 < luna> damn u
21:40 < luna> this is the moment
21:41 < luna> people raise up
21:41 < luna> how beatifull
21:41 < luna> HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE
21:41 < luna> --
21:41 < luna> another compa 
21:41 < luna> -
21:41 < luna> id like to find my dad
21:41 < luna> we has an orange hat 
21:42 < luna> and he is not showing up since 6 am
21:42 < luna> we came to 5 senyores to take tortillas to the barricade
21:42 < luna> and we are worried 4 him
21:42 < luna> --
21:42 < luna> we are going to give the instrucctions for the tear gas
21:42 < luna> whic we've done before
21:42 < luna> but you kee i g n o r i n g
21:43 < luna> so we repeat
21:43 < luna> so you get it
21:43 < luna> cuz you are not listening
21:43 < luna> so people
21:43 < luna> lets do this cuz ive seen people again in the barricades and you are not having this stuff and the you cry
21:43 < luna> so listen
21:44 < luna> fill that bag with that stuff
21:44 < luna> get those swimming goggles
21:44 < luna> we have to this ready before hand, compas
21:44 < luna> not like last minute
21:44 < luna> all falling over all over the place
21:44 < luna> and get that vinegar and that mask and put it all in your bag
21:44 < luna> with the water
21:44 < luna> ok?
21:45  * luna she is a teacher, and very strickt and patronising with this stuff
21:45 < luna> ---
21:45 < luna> JESUS
21:45 < luna> really
21:45 < luna> what do we have hear?
21:45 < luna> a guerrilera
21:46 < luna> can believe my eyes
21:46  * luna a baby voice
21:46 < luna> "they took my watermelons the police
21:46 < luna> how ols are you?
21:46 < luna> old?
21:46 < luna> they took my rings
21:46 < luna> jesus!
21:46 < luna> what bad police
21:46 < luna> six
21:47 < luna> six years old
21:47 < luna> lets listen to your sister
21:47 < luna> we are in la colonia 
21:47 < luna> andwe where 4 women 
21:47 < luna> with sticks
21:47 < luna> and the police pointed their cannons at us 
21:47 < luna> and we were afraid
21:48 < luna> but we managed to eventually pass
21:48 < luna> by
21:48 < luna> -
21:48 < luna> what really wants to make you cry
21:48 < luna> is that this girl of 6 brough us her savings
21:48 < luna> and the PRI supporters will say that
21:48 < luna> we are poisoning our childrens ideas
21:48 < luna> but we are educating them
21:49 < luna> her name is marlen martinez torres
21:49 < luna> what do you want us to buy with your savings?
21:49 < luna> we can buy food
21:49 < luna> medicines
21:49 < luna> what do you want?
21:49 < luna> " a bazooka"
21:49  * luna joke
21:49 < luna> "food"
21:49 < luna> ok we will buy food
21:49 < luna> --
21:50 < luna> so people are chanting in the streets people
21:50 < luna> celebrating
21:50 < luna> ULO already fell
21:50 < luna> --
21:50 < luna> call from italy
21:50 < luna> hello
21:50 < luna> have a problem with the call
21:50 < luna> --
21:51 < luna> italy is here
21:51 < luna> "a big hug from yabasta association
21:51 < luna> and here like you 
21:51 < luna> we are mobilising
21:51 < luna> to say basta in fron of the embassy
21:51 < luna> for the people of oaxaca
21:52 < luna> and you have showed us how to apply 
21:52 < luna> blah 
21:52 < luna> we fight for the situations of the emigrants and precarity and this is a really important struggle, just like yours
21:52 < luna> ---
21:57 < luna> --
21:59  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 4:10:43 PM CST
22:00  * luna a politician from mexico city calling in
22:00 < luna> we denounce the response of PFP
22:00 < luna> and we are for the exit of pfp from oaxaca
22:00 < luna> and the sacking of ULO
22:01 < luna> and for the recognition of the moral authority of APPO
22:01 < luna> and celebrate you use of simple stuff like sticks and stones to defend yourselves
22:01 < luna> we are an example
22:02 < luna> VIVA LA APPO
22:02 < luna> --
22:02 < luna> anything else?
22:02 < luna> --
22:02 < luna> we are enrage
22:02 < luna> you are the vanguard in mexico
22:02 < luna> against this fascist gobernement
22:02 < luna> -
22:02 < luna> -
22:02 < luna> we have a phone in from all of our pple
22:03 < luna> who are right now outside our front door
22:06  * luna cries of joy from people outside
22:06 < luna> political prisoners FREEDOM
22:06 < yuri> :)
22:29 < Coyote^> http://www.jornada.unam.mx:8080/ultimas/barricada.JPG/image/image_view_fullscreen
22:37 < pwd_ror> no translation?
22:37 < pwd_ror> we need you from italy
22:39 < thibautcho> someone can translate ? who's speaking
22:49 < NorthStar> http://www.jornada.unam.mx:8080/ultimas/chocan-pfp-y-appo-en-alrededores-de-ciudad-universitaria/image/image_view_fullscreen
22:50 < Coyote^> ouch
23:05 < luna> copters back
23:05 < luna> flying low over oaxaca
23:10 < gdm> 4 helicoptors have returned
23:12 < psuedo> do you want a radio appo translator???? Im not a great translator but I can try
23:13 < jolly> pseudo: go for it !!!
23:13 < jolly> ;-)
23:13 < jolly> would be nice..
23:14 < psuedo> alright... here I go
23:14 < mara> psuedo: do it in #radioappo
23:14 < psuedo> Radio universidad is asking for chains and locks
23:14 < mara> sorry confused
23:15 < psuedo> I want to give a greeting to the fuckers whos cut the chains at the churchs to play the jingles
23:16 < psuedo> greeting to my soons, my family....
23:16 < psuedo> we are 3 generations fighting
23:16 < psuedo> traitors who wanted the police to come... go home
23:17 < psuedo> we won this battle
23:17 < psuedo> and we are going to win all next battles
23:17 < psuedo> We have resisted this battle,
23:18 < psuedo> this was one battle but It wont be the only one
23:18 < psuedo> This is not a local problem, this is an national and international problem
23:18 < psuedo> Good evening...
23:18 < psuedo> Im glad to be here
23:18 < psuedo> I was thinking ....
23:18 < psuedo> I cant do anything at home
23:19 < psuedo> I have to go out and fight
23:19 < psuedo> we feel humiliated, not defeated...
23:19 < psuedo> we are mixicans
23:19 < psuedo> and we need to be free
23:19 < psuedo> of those represors
23:19 < psuedo> Like Vicente fox
23:20 <@stacy> we will not tolerate another Atenco
23:20 < psuedo> who is going to show tomorrow telling lies
23:20 < psuedo> we have been humiliated, they have violeted our rights
23:20 < psuedo> I feel like crying, but I wont cry, I now feel strong
23:21 < psuedo> against PFP who has stolen our houses
23:21 < psuedo> we cant let this happen
23:21 < psuedo> they have violated our women
23:21 < psuedo> we cant let i t happen
23:21 < psuedo> We have to defend ourselves
23:22 < psuedo> against the people from URO
23:22 < psuedo> Fuera UROs de Oaxaca Y fuera PFP
23:22 < psuedo> Out URO AND PFP
23:23 < psuedo> APPO ask for help an Vicente Guerrero Suburbs
23:23 < psuedo> to reforce the barricades
23:23 < psuedo> good evening
23:23 < psuedo> its great news that the people didnt allow the take of the univeristy
23:23 < psuedo> I want to thank the great people of oaxaca
23:24 < psuedo> there were some wounded
23:24 < psuedo> One profesor was wounded but is now under treatment
23:25 < psuedo> (Im sorry, this is too hard to translate) I m doing my best, Im sorry
23:26 < psuedo> (Any volunteer to continue to translate)??
23:26 < psuedo> We ask for social justice
23:27 < psuedo> thank you very much
23:27 < psuedo> PFP had to retire because of the people
23:27 < psuedo> this is not going to stop until we get what we want
23:28 < psuedo> we have confirmed that the helicopters are landing on the women jail in tlacolula
23:29 < psuedo> PFP is concentrated at the airport
23:29 < Coyote^> psuedo you're doing great
23:29 < psuedo> ty
23:29 < psuedo> we are not going to remove our barricades at the univeristy
23:29 < psuedo> vecause that will allow them to continue to kill us
23:30 < psuedo> we ask for duct tape, fireworks
23:30 < psuedo> maps
23:30 < psuedo> maps from 5 señores
23:31 < psuedo> people with missing family can call 9511246941
23:31 < gaba> hector guzman acosta was disappeared
23:31 < psuedo> Hector german acosta was arrested by PFP while he was on shoping
23:32 < psuedo> the are taking all the arrested people to the womens jail
23:32 < psuedo> Talk to your family, tell them that you are ok
23:32 < psuedo> we are fighting for our rights...
23:32 < psuedo> we have nothing to be ashamed off
23:33 < psuedo> Helicopter PF302 PF 305 is transporting arrested people
23:33 < psuedo> there are some 8 persons on each helicopter
23:33 < barbarossa> two helicopters with the number pf 302 and pf305 were identified, for all the human right organisations
23:34 < psuedo> (Some sort of prayer
23:34 < psuedo> )
23:35 < gaba> praying for the death people and the struggle
23:38 < psuedo> Please understand...
23:38 < psuedo> that we won a battle and not the war...
23:39 < psuedo> TV Azteca said that PFP is reorganizing
23:39 < psuedo> we nned to reinforce our barricades
23:39 < psuedo> Lets make holes so the Trucks cant pass
23:40 < psuedo> there is still represion
23:40 < psuedo> on the road mexico-monte alban they are arresting people
23:41 < psuedo> this heroic response from the people from oaxaca is builing ....
23:41 < psuedo> praying fast
23:42 < psuedo> we understand that religion is important....
23:42 < psuedo> but we first need to inform people
23:43 < psuedo> good evening
23:43 < psuedo> I came to say that my husband was arreted at 12:30 togheter with other people
23:43 < psuedo> they ara at the militaty base No 15
23:43 < psuedo> but they wont let us in
23:44 < psuedo> for all the families who have missing family members.... lets go to the military base 15
23:44 < psuedo> they are taking them to some jail
23:44 < gaba> we come here to ask the police to leave and ulises to resign
23:44 < psuedo> we need to see our family members, we have to make sure that they are alright
23:45 < psuedo> (gaba will continue to translate) I wil be reight back
23:45 < psuedo> (music)
23:46 < gaba> somebody from argentina calling
23:46 < gaba> from buenos aires
23:46 < psuedo> Juan sin tierra Song, Victor Jara
23:47 < gaba> his name is carlos (i think)
23:47 < gaba> they have been all day following what is happening in oaxaca
23:47 < gaba> he says that is really impressive to see the people in oaxaca
23:47 < gaba> all the courage
23:47 < gaba> that they kick away the pfp
23:47 < gaba> you people in oaxaca are an example for all latinoamerica
23:47 < gaba> to fight against the people that opress us
23:48 < gaba> from our grouo contraimagen
23:48 < gaba> we organize our solidarity with your struggle
23:48 < gaba> and in support of our friend brad killed
23:48 < gaba> it is importan to know that the workers and people can kick out the governments
23:48 < gaba> it is a great example
23:49 < gaba> we have to continue in this struggle until ulises leave
23:49 < gaba> we want to salut you
23:49 < gaba> we have been in contraimgen in oaxaca documenting
23:49 < gaba> and it is an example for argentina and all latinoamerica
23:49 < gaba> we are learning from you all
23:49 < gaba> congratuilations and count on us for everything
23:49 < gaba> salu
23:50 < gaba> the reporter in oaxaca is talking again
23:50 < gaba> and says thanks to the ppl from argentina and revaindicating the struggle from brad killed in oaxaca
23:50 < gaba> she says that is all our responsability to defend our oaxaca
23:50 < gaba> we are convinced that we are gonna win
23:51 < gaba> licenciado german vazques( i think) was detained in the afternoon
23:51 < gaba> at 1:30 pm
23:51 < gaba> he is from the law university
23:51 < gaba> he is disappeared
23:51 < gaba> somebody contact his family
23:51 < gaba> other guy is saying that please permit the priest ruby to go through the barricades
23:52 < gaba> he has something important to do
23:52 < gaba> he is going to the airport
23:52 < gaba> now in the radio there is a child of 7 years
23:52 < gaba> he is gonna talk
23:52 < psuedo> the boys father is missing
23:52 < gaba> the child: i want to say that what is happening in oaxaca is very sad
23:53 < gaba> i have seen so many things that i cant explain with my words
23:53 < gaba> but i want to express in radio universidad
23:53 < gaba> the ppl in the university are seeing the things on the front and they are winning a lot of things
23:53 < gaba> the teachers too
23:53 < gaba> (pseudo continues)
23:54 < psuedo> I cant express with word what Im feeling
23:54 < psuedo> I know that people from the univeristy have done plenty of things
23:54 < psuedo> thogheter with the magisterio
23:55 < psuedo> We have to be aware of PFP, PFP ut of oaxaca today
23:55 < psuedo> Congratulations to the univeristy for all the things that they have done
23:55 < elisa> does anybody knows the telephone of the radio?, ppl from brazil want to call
23:56 < psuedo> This a a great histoy class for all our children
23:57 < psuedo> good evening..
23:57 < psuedo> im a doctor
23:57 < psuedo> Im here to help APPO
23:57 < psuedo> and all people
23:57 < psuedo> we have been fighting all the time
23:57 < psuedo> I want to send a message to al people can congratuulate them for this...
23:57 < psuedo> heroic fight
23:57 < psuedo> Body agianst arms
23:57 < psuedo> A call from brasil
23:58 < psuedo> good night...
23:59 < psuedo> I call to say that the protests in brasil have been a lot
23:59 < psuedo> we are with you
23:59 < psuedo> We are all Oaxaca
23:59 < psuedo> We demand the leaving of URO
--- Log closed Fri Nov 03 00:00:16 2006
--- Log opened Fri Nov 03 00:00:16 2006
--- Day changed Fri Nov 03 2006
00:00 < psuedo> The brazilian ambasy said tha there are no represion
00:00 < psuedo> Nice greating to oaxacas people
00:00 < psuedo> Bad governors are everywhere, serving imperialism
00:01 < psuedo> Oaxaca people is awakening...
00:01 < psuedo> we still have lots to do
00:01 < psuedo> lets go deep in our concience
00:02 < psuedo> Congrats to the people who defended our Palacio municipal
00:03 < psuedo> I am still fighting
00:03 < psuedo> Hasta la victoria siempre
00:03 < psuedo> Calling...
00:04 < psuedo> i want to alert all people fron Ciudad universitaria...
00:04 < psuedo> that the other raadio from PRI is....
00:04 < psuedo> asking for more policeman to attack at night
00:05 < psuedo> they are all stupids
00:05 < psuedo> PFP might comback at night
00:05 < psuedo> lets take down the other Radio transmiter
00:06 < psuedo> we have to take this Radio from air
00:06 < psuedo> Tey are saying bullshit from this radio
00:06 < psuedo> APPO recovers cruzero de 5 señores
00:07 < psuedo> after 6 and a half ours PFP retired
00:07 < psuedo> 3 buses were burned
00:07 < psuedo> and two cars
00:07 < psuedo> · journalist were wounded
00:08 < psuedo> 3 journalists
00:08 < psuedo> Some news report
00:09 < psuedo> It would be ilegal if PFP enters the university
00:11 < psuedo> we are not willing to go any step back
00:11 < psuedo> making human chains
00:11 < psuedo> resisting
00:12 < psuedo> alert!!! PFP is moving from the airport
00:12 < psuedo> ALERT!!!
00:12 < psuedo> PFP is moving
00:12 < psuedo> remember to stay calm
00:12 < psuedo> 2 more missing people, pleas call home
00:12 < psuedo> we make vicente fos responsible from theese people missing
00:13 < psuedo> this a an alert moment!!!
00:13 < psuedo> a profesor says...
00:13 < psuedo> i recieved a call from monterrey to congratulate us for our fight
00:14 < psuedo> the profesor suggest the opening of a bank account....
00:14 < psuedo> so people all over mexico can make donations
00:14 < psuedo> PFP is reorganizing, we also have to reorganize
00:15 < psuedo> We have plenty of food here, come and have some
00:15 < psuedo> (MUSIC)
00:19 < psuedo> The military forces from mexico is stoping people on the roads
00:19 < psuedo> searching for guns
00:19 < psuedo> they have big lists of people to arrest
00:19 < psuedo> be carefull people
00:19 < psuedo> we need 6 meters of big chain
00:20 < psuedo> List of arrested and missing:
00:20 < gaba> desaparecidos : victor javier cruz garcia, 39 anis
00:20 < gaba> angel santos tgallegos
00:20 < gaba> rodolfo hernandez leon
00:20 < gaba> malvin peralta hernandez
00:20 < gaba> javier moreno colmenares
00:20 < psuedo> we need gasoline, diesel, fireworks, bottles, chile, cigarrets
00:20 < gaba> diego nigolas hernandes, 21 years
00:20 < gaba> teodoro aquino
00:20 < gaba> andres perez
00:21 < gaba> last friday, rigoberto hernandez, teacher
00:21 < gaba> diego hernandez lopez
00:21 < gaba> heber santiago aquino
00:21 < gaba> teodoro aquino bolanio
00:21 < gaba> eduardo hernandez mendoza
00:21 < gaba> yolanda beltran valentin and her sister
00:21 < gaba> valentin perez hernandez
00:21 < gaba> diego nicolas hernandez lopez
00:22 < psuedo> eduardo hernadez mendoza, 32 years
00:23 < psuedo> Groups of 15 or 20 persons have been taken....
00:23 < psuedo> Please call to tell us if you have any family member missing
00:23 < psuedo> Good evening
00:24 < psuedo> Im proudly university ex student
00:24 < psuedo> we cant allo any police forces violate our university
00:24 < psuedo> which we have always defended
00:24 < psuedo> as a lawyer....
00:24 < psuedo> I can say that we have defended our university
00:25 < psuedo> we defended our university with help of our people
00:25 < psuedo> Lets deffend our university
00:25 < psuedo> lets defend our dignity
00:26 < psuedo> there have been plenty of human right violations
00:26 < psuedo> Vicente fox has never been able to governate
00:27 < psuedo> He has always been under George Bush
00:27 < psuedo> Calling from argentina
00:28 < psuedo> we want to salute you
00:28 < psuedo> express our solidarity
00:29 < psuedo> we want to keep in touch with you, establish a contact
00:29 < psuedo> so we can transmit your radio here in argentina
00:30 < psuedo> We are going to defend our university, if we need to give our lives we will do it
00:30 < Tonton> Transmito tiene todo el pueblo de oaxaca toda mi admiración, mi sostén y mi estímulo
00:30 < psuedo> The goverment is going down
00:30 < psuedo> we ask for lamps
00:30 < psuedo> PFP is reorganizing
00:30 < mahtin> (flashlights, i think)
00:30 < mahtin> and batteries
00:31 < psuedo> they may be reorganizing to leave, but we dont know
00:31 < mahtin> and reflectors
00:31 < psuedo> They have already sweared on the name of good that PFP wouldnt come
00:31 < psuedo> so we cant trust them
00:31 < psuedo> We nned matches, lighters, cigatrretes
00:31 < psuedo> We are tired...
00:32 < psuedo> this was an amazing batlle, Dvid Vs Goliath
00:32 < psuedo> Good night people from oaxaca
00:32 < psuedo> we are recieving plenty of help from people
00:32 < psuedo> we have recieved vinegar, food
00:33 < psuedo> Women at home, you can help....
00:33 < psuedo> come get some food and cock it at home...
00:33 < psuedo> and bring it back
00:33 < psuedo> thank you very much
00:33 < psuedo> we are very happy
00:33 < psuedo> not only because we won the battle
00:33 < Tonton> ¿ Cómo explica su jubilación? ¿ Táctica frente a su resistencia? ¿ O discusiones a alto nivel (la iglesia, cameron, etc)?
00:33 < psuedo> but, for all the people help
00:34 < psuedo> Tonton, no chat please
00:34 < psuedo> Our anonymuss heros...
00:34 < psuedo> all people that send us food
00:34 < psuedo> congratulations
00:34 < psuedo> our mood is up...
00:35 < psuedo> this is an example of braveness, organization and dignity
00:35 < psuedo> Calling from APPO
00:35 < psuedo> good night
00:35  * luna briliant psuedo
00:35 < psuedo> this fight has been a succes
00:35 < psuedo> our people went out to the streets
00:36 < psuedo> and fought bravely
00:36 < psuedo> thanks to the thousend of people who defended us
00:36 < psuedo> who defended radio universidad
00:36 < psuedo> (ty luna)
00:37 < psuedo> (sorry I had a phone call)
00:38 < psuedo> URO is organizing people to agitate
00:38 < psuedo> so that PFP reacts against us
00:38 < psuedo> We are trying to find our missing people
00:39 < psuedo> we need to find all our missing people to continue our fight
00:39 < psuedo> Inmediate Freedom to our political prsioners
00:40 < psuedo> There was a robery at a motorcycle shop... We are not responsible
00:41 < gaba> (music)
00:48 < psuedo> we want to thank people who brought radios to communicate
00:48 < psuedo> Greeting to all students and professors
00:49 < psuedo> we are tired.. this was a rough battle
00:49 < psuedo> Hasta la victria siempre
00:50 < psuedo> People from medical institutions....
00:50 < psuedo> Good night...
00:50 < psuedo> I came her to invite all people from ETLA
00:50 < psuedo> lets continue until URO falls
00:50 < brie> we prefer to die here on our feet fighting
00:51 < brie> now is the time to stand up
00:51 < psuedo> I want to thank all people who participated on todays battle fro our university
00:51 < psuedo> Weits time to protest agains this damn goverment
00:51 < psuedo> people from etla wake up and fight as you can, with food
00:51 < psuedo> with your body
00:52 < psuedo> Jose Daniel Carreño Cruz is missing, please call home
00:52 < psuedo> Calling from Canada
00:53 < brie> Vancouver
00:53 < psuedo> we are very produ of what you achieved today
00:53 < psuedo> we took the embassy
00:53 < psuedo> and the consulate
00:53 < psuedo> made some grafittis
00:53 < psuedo> blocked the trafic
00:54 < psuedo> a friend of us was arrested but we were able to get her back inmediatly
00:56 < psuedo> we are making preassure on the mexican and canadian goverment
00:56 < brie> I want you all to reflect on the fact that we're university people - that the university needs us
00:56 < brie> and we'll fight for the autonomy ofour universities
00:56 < brie> thank you very much for being here, and we'll be seeing you
00:57 < brie> and now we're going forward, step by step, and step by step we're going to get there
00:57 < psuedo> Thanks to this university we are now professionals
00:57 < psuedo> thanks to this university we can make a places better
00:57 < psuedo> thats why I reject PFP at the university
00:58 < psuedo> Students please understand that we need to be united to defend our university
00:58 < psuedo> I work at DIF
00:58 < brie> I'm looking at these kids as a mother, they're lying in beds and they can't even move
00:58 < psuedo> I make a call to mr Ulises, (if you can call it mr)
00:59 < psuedo> go out ....
00:59 < brie> (gas victims)
00:59 < psuedo> sick children gas victims
00:59 < psuedo> the girl is really angry
00:59 < psuedo> because sick children were affected by gas
00:59 < brie> use this rage that you're feeling to move us forward
01:00 < brie> we're going to keep crying, but next time we're going to be crying for joy
01:00 < brie> and everyone thank you, we have a lot of food
01:00 < brie> and that's what the PFP wants, because they don't have food
01:00 < brie> what the Priistas delivered to them was uncooked food, not like what we have here
01:00 < brie> so THEY need food, but thank you, we have food
01:01 < brie> talk to the people who are in the barricades that need food
01:01 < brie> through us, at the radio
01:02 < brie> representatives from the union are coming at noon, in Santo Domingo
01:02 < brie> Nina Morales Lopez is a teacher that's missing - please call the radio
01:03 < brie> a 15 year old girl was gassed who had nothing to do with the conflict
01:03 < brie> the PFP should know what they're doing to them.  thank you for listening
01:03 < brie> the doctors are coming back
01:04 < brie> people need to get rid of their sadness and get rid of their impotence and come to fight
01:04 < brie> many of our young people have been detained
01:04 < brie> this 15 year old girl was also affected, and she had nothing to do with the conflict
01:04 < brie> but it doesn't matter, we're going to keep talking
01:04 < brie> because the people of Oaxaca have a lot of dignity
01:04 < brie> and this is the only voice that the people in the struggle have right now
01:05 < brie> your voice, that's coming through this radio station
01:05 < brie> the rights of Oaxcans, it is coming through these microphones
01:05 < brie> and what we have is the ability to struggle through the media
01:05 < brie> radio APPO is unfortunately off the air
01:05 < brie> but this is the other voice that we have, as the people of Oaxaca
01:05 < brie> and we're going to keep going with all of our dignity
01:06 < brie> a nurse was killed
01:06 < brie> all of the health sector and the secretary of health and the private sector
01:07 < brie> (having trouble keeping up, sorry)
01:07  * brie will use ACTION to express translator stuff from now
01:07  * brie has to step out for a second
01:09 < brie> we are going to say the phone numbers of the Oaxacan national network of human rights
01:09 < brie> hopefully tomorrow we'll have the numbers of the 5 men who are missing so we'll know where they are
01:09 < brie> the military police and the mexican army have created a very serious situation
01:10 < brie> they're wearing the vests of the mexican army
01:10 < brie> the state and international forces
01:10  * brie missing some, apologies
01:10 < brie> they can no longer treat us as animals
01:11 < brie> animals defend themselves effectively
01:11 < krimikolle> brie> they can no longer treat us as animals
01:11 < krimikolle>  <brie> animals defend themselves effectively
01:11 < brie> err
01:11 < brie> that's in reference to the police
01:11 < brie> they are animals, they don't defend themselves effectively
01:11 < brie> but we shouldn't compare any animal to URO because that's an insult to the animal
01:12 < brie> these soldiers in Oaxaca are animals that don't exist in any other places
01:12 < brie> the oxen and the donkies, the PFP, and the military, you can't call them human beings because they're animals
01:13 < brie> representatives of the unions are coming tomorrow at noon to our camp
01:13 < brie> the 22nd section of the APPO is coming tomorrow,in santo domingo
01:13 < brie> for the assembly
01:13 < brie> (another name of someone missing)
01:13 < psuedo> at 12:00
01:14 < brie> section 22 of the teacher's union, correction
01:14 < brie> we're asking if you can send money for the people that are detained and missing
01:14 < brie> this is the message that we're asking to be sent out
01:14 < psuedo> Trying to locate Fermin garcia Silva
01:15 < brie> the PRI is defending a cruel and corrupt system of government
01:15 < brie> and all that we are fighting for is a better way of life
01:15 < brie> we shouldn't be divided among ourselves, this is what I'm asking those of you who are listening
01:15 < brie> we can't be quiet
01:15 < brie> from radio planton
01:16 < brie> radio APPO has had a relevant influence, and role
01:17  * brie would like someone to step up to live translate
01:17  * luna is anyone talking this on?
01:17  * brie suggests luna go for it
01:17  * luna luna suggests brie
01:18  * luna :P
01:18  * brie will do it for awhile longer, but I need help
01:18  * luna ok one a couple of minutes
01:18  * luna amtrying to set up a noise filter on this till they retune the transmisor
01:19 < brie> thank you very much, teacher
01:19  * Sweeper just turns the top 3 bands on his equalizer all the way down
01:19 < brie> it's completely absurd...
01:20 < brie> hello corades, I am asking for the immediately removal of URO
01:20 < brie> I hope that you rae listening to me
01:20  * brie comrades
01:20 < brie> goddamn all of you, that won't do what you can do to defend our Oaxacan pubelo
01:20 < brie> ruiz already fell!
01:21 < brie> all of the people that we find in our city, they should have the force of this young girl
01:21 < brie> even when our energy level is low, she's raising her voice
01:21 < brie> and even though we might be afraid, we need to step it up
01:21 < brie> and now we'll have a musical pause
01:21 < brie> before we take our pause we want to thank all of the families for delivering food and aid
01:21 < brie> and right now we need food to be sent to the center for the radio
01:22 < brie> cooked food, to be prepared and cooked
01:22 < brie> and now we're going to start dancing outside, step it up everyone, energy
01:22 < brie> we're going to play something happy, something exciting
01:22 < brie> (musical break)
01:22 < Prax01D> Hi
01:22 < Prax01D> Hola
01:23  * brie points out the topic - no chat here, translation only
01:23  * brie if others can help me translate it would help, I'm not catching everything
01:24  * mexicatl will gladly help in about half an hour
01:25 < jolly> [ luna: clearest stream i know is: http://streaming.com.mx:8006/ ]
01:26 < psuedo> Im translating now.....
01:26 < psuedo> right now there is music playing
01:30 < brie> we're asking ruiz to stop killing people
01:30 < brie> (a poem)
01:30 < Prax01D> Why would they stop?
01:30 < brie> we want to ask the support of the people
01:31 < brie> because the PFP is in love park
01:31 < brie> they're moving neighbors, please go to park d'armour (love park)
01:31 < brie> go there and confirm to us that they're moving, we need to know if they're moving towards us
01:32 < brie> we're going to continue saying names of people who have been detained or disappeared
01:32 < brie> we're also asking for materials that we need
01:32 < brie> AA batteries
01:32 < brie> t-shirts
01:32 < psuedo> PFP is at the love park, presumable thowards the university
01:32 < brie> batteries for a flashlight, flashlights
01:32 < brie> gloves
01:32 < brie> this is the list of things that we need
01:33  * brie notes translation not complete
01:33 < brie> hopefully you can help us in the ways that you can
01:33 < brie> we need wood
01:33 < brie> AAA batteries as well
01:33 < brie> we're going to keep going, we'll be continually going
01:33 < psuedo> socks, masks, googles,
01:34 < brie> I have the name of Roberto Vasquez Hernandez
01:34 < brie> this is the complete name of the professor that was disappeared
01:34 < brie> we're looking for the person that has the backpack of the Blue Cross
01:34 < brie> please bring it to the university radio
01:35 < brie> (discussion of police at the park)
01:35 < brie> Jimmy, please report to your house
01:35 < brie> the engineer, Garcia, was detained
01:35 < luna> chidrawui
01:36 < luna> 6 convoys of pfp
01:36 < luna> are organising
01:36 < psuedo> 6 trucks filled with policemen left parque del amor
01:36 < brie> one of the academics that was defeinding the autonomous university was beaten
01:36 < brie> he's received several injuries, and we're sending fraternal wishes of love to him
01:37 < brie> please, to the neighbors that are close to love park...
01:37 < brie> we're asking all the people that are around there to report to the radio
01:37 < brie> citizens of Oaxaca, get all of your stuff that makes noise
01:37 < brie> pots, pans, whatever
01:38 < brie> from all different levels - from the barriacdes, the houses, whatever - that you report to the radio
01:38 < brie> we do things this way with organization
01:38 < psuedo> In case that the signal goes out of iar, it might be that we are under attack
01:38 < brie> it doesn't matter the risk of they detain us .... 
01:38 < brie> hello to all of the people that have been defending the dignity of oaxaca
01:38 < brie> I think it's important that none of you stay in their houses
01:38 < brie> we remember the epic of peasant wars
01:39 < brie> of president juarez, sorry
01:39  * brie notes last msg a correction not a translation
01:39 < brie> this radio station is the only dignified voice that is coming out of Oaxaca right now
01:40 < brie> Oaxaca is the farthest behind in economics, in economic development ---- all Mexicans should be embracing the Oaxacan fight right now
01:40 < brie> brothers, this fight is to liberate our people, from these fucking assholes that are trying to govern right now
01:40 < brie> we can't be following this idiot that doesn't even have a brain
01:40 < brie> if this guy wants to negotiate, he needs to come to Oaxaca
01:41 < brie> and it's just like in the epic of President Juarez, I'm inviting all of you to become part of the struggle
01:41 < brie> thank you
01:41 < brie> People of Oaxaca, on the 31st of october these were the people that were disappeared:
01:41 < brie> (list of names)
01:42 < brie> these are the people that are missing, and if you hear from any of them please report it so their families can hear from radio universidad
01:42 < brie> good evening friends and people that are listening, in some way supporting the struggle
01:42 < brie> the struggle is very important because we're all coming together to try to repel the federal forces that are attacking us
01:42 < brie> this is a government that is manipulating us
01:43 < brie> and trying to mess with people that are very poor, that have very few resources
01:43 < brie> university people supporting this movement
01:43 < brie> we're repremainding the government, and we're letting them know that it won't be possible to manipulate poor people
01:43 < brie> this is the way that I wanted to express myself, thank you for letting me.  good night.
01:43 < brie> another person that has come to report about the people who hav ebeen detained or disappeared:
01:44 < brie> good night.  If the engineer would make a call to his family... Hermin Garcia, if you could please call your family....
01:44 < brie> we have more information on the disappeared and detained
01:44 < brie> we're going to be continually giving this information
01:44 < brie> the mexican legal defense league is giving us a number
01:44 < brie> this is their office number
01:44 < brie> everyone should know that they've detained a friend of ours
01:45  * brie scratch that
01:45 < brie> if they have detained someone you know, you should report their name, the date, the time, and where they were taken
01:45 < brie> if you can confirm where they were taken, then we can help confirm it
01:46 < brie> also report occupation
01:46 < brie> call the radio station with this information, and the mexican league of civil defense is there
01:46 < brie> so we have this list and unfortunately each time we look at it, it gets more serious and longer
01:46 < brie> the Oaxcan network of human rights is also helping us in this way
01:46 < brie> {phone number given}
01:47 < brie> these are the numbers for the oaxcan national human rights
01:47 < brie> here again is the list of materials we're asking for
01:47 < brie> (see above)
01:47  * brie needs to step back
01:48  * brie can anyone else step forward?
01:48 < psuedo> I will brie
01:48  * brie steps back
01:49 < psuedo> IfURO wont quit then Felipe Calderon wont pass
01:50 < psuedo> We know how much have suffered our comrades at atenco, sicartsa...
01:50 < psuedo> so we wont let the federal goverment win time
01:50 < psuedo> they want to make us weak
01:51 < psuedo> We will show Vicente Fox And felipe calderon that we wont quit
01:51 < psuedo> Military is dressed as PFP
01:51 < psuedo> we wont fall, we wont quit
01:52 < psuedo> Our main political goal is the falling of URO
01:52 < psuedo> We have the responsability of fighting for a better oaxaca
01:53 < psuedo> Tomorrow we shall deciede our route
01:53 < psuedo> Our people kept PFP away, but this is not over...
01:53 < psuedo> We are all united
01:53 < psuedo> Mexico is Oxaca
01:54 < psuedo> All the world is Oaxaca
01:54 < psuedo> (music)
01:59 < psuedo> (music is Gracias a la Vida from Violeta Parra)
02:06  * mexicatl will take over the translation now
02:07 < mexicatl> we are back and now give voice to the people of oaxaca
02:07 < mexicatl> --
02:08 < mexicatl> inviting to participate in the resistance
02:08 < mexicatl> and news of a roadblock
02:08 < mexicatl> until this murderer leaves
02:08 < mexicatl> a proposal to do a national strike
02:09 < mexicatl> for the APPO meeting tomorrow
02:09 < mexicatl> considering how the people of oaxaca have valiantly fought off the invading forces
02:09 < mexicatl> then the unions must ask workers to strike in solidarity
02:10 < mexicatl> to struggle until ruiz has step down
02:11 < mexicatl> giving out addresses to the radio stream
02:12 < mexicatl> we have a message, where the APPO distances itself from aggressions to media
02:13 < mexicatl> that have been committed by the paramilitaries under the orders of the governor
02:13 < mexicatl> calling for missing people: marin marta hernandez, missing
02:14 < mexicatl> *marvin
02:15 < mexicatl> we continue to receive more denouncements at the radio universidad
02:15 < mexicatl> demands the expulsion of ruiz from the state
02:15 < mexicatl> fox, with the pri and pan alliance is playing a dirty role in oaxaca
02:15 < mexicatl> we remind you we need the following materials:
02:16 < mexicatl> gloves, goggles, cans, masks, shirts, socks, wood, locks, and lime
02:17 < mexicatl> we have succeded in making the federal preventive police withdraw
02:17 < mexicatl> and people from around the world congratulate us
02:18 < mexicatl> we shall succeed in making something new, new organizations
02:18 < mexicatl> thanking families for the food and transports
02:19 < mexicatl> thanking the woman who brought a warm tea for the people so that they may keep on working
02:19 < mexicatl> and that even though a great victory was won, the war hasn't
02:20 < mexicatl> a report of a missing person manuel luis* martinez, his girlfriend is looking for him
02:20 < mexicatl> the song is dedicated to the People of Oaxaca who are an example to the world
02:21 < mexicatl> !musical break
02:25 < mexicatl> ---
02:26 < pwd> hi mexicatl ;-)
02:33 < mexicatl> !back
02:33 < mexicatl> 1. the federal preventive police has military and special forces and under orders to the military
02:34 < mexicatl> 2. the afi is also mixed into the pgr
02:34 < yuri> you mean.... we are fucked?
02:34 < yuri> :/
02:34 < yuri> ops
02:34 < yuri> sorry!
02:35 < mexicatl> calls for military bases to not be used in the oppression of people of oaxaca
02:35 < mexicatl> very relevant message giving us a better view of the situation
02:36 < mexicatl> now we know that the federal preventive police contains people under the armed forces
02:36 < mexicatl> --
02:36 < mexicatl> denunciation from a citizen
02:37 < mexicatl> thanking a particular neighborhood for their help
02:37 < mexicatl> a collection of 350 pesos
02:37 < mexicatl> it is our duty to protect our state
02:37 < mexicatl> talking to the pri-sympathizers: the people of oaxaca is free, but they are not
02:38 < mexicatl> that they kneel to the political powers
02:38 < mexicatl> and they are nothing but cannon fodder, since ulises ruiz ortiz killed his party
02:38 < mexicatl> he stole the election
02:39 < mexicatl> the events of today will not be doubted and it shall be the same until the usurper governor is gone and replaced by a good person for the people of oaxaca
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:40 < mexicatl> more messages
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:40 < mexicatl> a student says that a particular market, tonal?, there are many police forces, but can't tell what force it is
02:40 < mexicatl> --
02:41 < mexicatl> also makes people aware that there are silenced helicopters flying near the university
02:41 < mexicatl> --
02:41 < mexicatl> we also ask people to inform us on the quality of the signal around oaxaca
02:42 < mexicatl> since if they go off the air it will be because the government interfered
02:42 < mexicatl> reports that the a federal preventive police convoy is leaving the airport
02:42 < mexicatl> and that there's movement in the central plaza
02:43 < mexicatl> asks for people to keep an eye out if they live around there
02:43 < mexicatl> in regards to the loss of signal, it merely means that they silenced us to be able to attack the voice of the people of oaxaca
02:44 < mexicatl> then they should not wait for people to call out, but head to the campus organized and disciplined
02:44 < mexicatl> regardless of what happens, then people should not loose their calm
02:45 < mexicatl> reports that all of a sudden the signal quality is decreasing in quality
02:45 < mexicatl> so that it might precede police or paramilitary intervention
02:46 < mexicatl> but we have been expecting us and the people of oaxaca will not be give in to rapists and thugs, like they showed in atenco
02:46 < mexicatl> and we they already knew we would be beaten up, especially after today
02:47 < mexicatl> we must not be sad, and ready to fight
02:47 < mexicatl> we shall continue to report on the quality of the signal
02:48 < mexicatl> reports that the video of how the federal preventive police tried to enter the university campus is on the jornada website
02:48 < mexicatl> --
02:48 < mexicatl> call from california
02:48 < mexicatl> (unintelligible)
02:48 < mexicatl> we can't understand either
02:49 < mexicatl> hello from LA, in a march of 300-400 people in front of the consulate
02:49 < mexicatl> - we just fought off a struggle against the federal preventive police
02:50 < mexicatl> - we have succeeded in winning a battle
02:50 < mexicatl> how do people feel in oaxaca?
02:50 < mexicatl> - the people of oaxaca have fought valiantly in defending the commune of oaxaca
02:51 < mexicatl> - but we continue to be alert
02:51 < mexicatl> what is the situation of the teachers
02:51 < mexicatl> ?
02:51 < mexicatl> - they continue to struggle along side us
02:51 < mexicatl> - haven't gone back to classes
02:52 < mexicatl> - the different sections have confirmed it
02:52 < mexicatl> the people in LA are concerned by more reinforcements, what do know about it?
02:52 < mexicatl> - more reinforcements are coming in from puebla, but we shall be victorious
02:53 < mexicatl> did the federal preventive police capture minors?
02:53 < mexicatl> - yes, several children have been kidnapped, but are on the list of the missing
02:53 < mexicatl> - and worrying that they are taking it out against the children
02:54 < mexicatl> when will the list of missing will be done?
02:54 < mexicatl> - we call solidarity world wide
02:55 < mexicatl> here the community is disgusted by the actions of the government and expressed its solidarity with the people of oaxaca
02:56 < mexicatl> - we reiterate our call, as members of APPO to mobilize worldwide and for human rights organisms to overview these violations
02:56 < mexicatl> next saturday, the oaxacan community has called for a march
02:57 < mexicatl> not just oaxacans will march, but many others will also
02:57 < mexicatl> the musicians would like to play a song for the people of oaxaca
02:57 < mexicatl> (song from the march in LA over the phone)
02:58 < mexicatl> (a traditional song from oaxaca)
02:59 < mexicatl> --
02:59 < mexicatl> this song shall be dedicated to the people of oaxaca in their victory against the invaders of president fox
03:00 < mexicatl> (same song from LA)
03:00 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:02 < mexicatl> --
03:02 < mexicatl> reports of bad signal
03:03 < mexicatl> if the signal ever disappears, it means that the authorities are assaulting
03:03 < mexicatl> but we must not forget the barricades, all of them, to block the invading forces
03:04 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:06 < mexicatl> --
03:07 < mexicatl> change to frequency 11, the same that the federal preventive police is using
03:07 < mexicatl> people need to listen to this to hear what is being said
03:08 < mexicatl> they say there are few people at "radio universidad de oaxaca" which is not true, but more people are never bad
03:09 < mexicatl> the federal preventive police is going to the barricade of viguera
03:09  * mexicatl can someone take over?
03:10 < mexicatl> if the federal preventive police destroy the barricade, it doesn't matter since it can be rebuilt
03:10 < mexicatl> but now once again, to the music that will be happy
03:13 < mexicatl> !musical break
03:13 < mexicatl> !can anyone take over?
03:15 < mexicatl> reports from a judge that has been called to work, but will refuse
03:16 < mexicatl> a message "200 years after the birth of benito juarez" his spirit is reborn
03:16 < mexicatl> !is anyone even reading this?
03:17 < mexicatl> msg: people looking for their friends from puebla
03:18 < mexicatl> !IS ANYONE READING THIS?
03:18 < jolly> !sure
03:18 < jazz> mexicatl !sure but cant translate from spanish :(
03:18 < jebba> !ping  (and the archives...)
03:18 < mexicatl> !ok, good
03:18 < mexicatl> !just checking :)
03:18 < NorthStar> yes mexicatl
03:19 < mexicatl> please do not bring any more food because we have enough food for the night
03:19 < mexicatl> it isn't any necessary, so save it for tomorrow
03:20 < mexicatl> once again to set their radios to the frequency 11 to listen to the federal preventive police
03:20 < mexicatl> msg: someone saw a black and white vehicule, along with ... (unintelligible, someone killed)
03:21 < mexicatl> we might be surrounded, so please be ready
03:21 < soybeananarquista> im reading in aotearoa... thanks heaps for translating!
03:21 < mexicatl> to make noise when the signal drops
03:21 < mexicatl> we must all be alert, in spite of the victory today, even though we may be tired
03:23 < mexicatl> people must be ready to break through the encirclement
03:24 < mexicatl> next time they will be more aggressive, but we must not loose faith
03:24 < mexicatl> calls for the water tanks, which can be used to shower the federal preventive police
03:25 < mexicatl> the water cannons are at the central plaza recharging
03:25 < mexicatl> thanks to certain families and drivers for their support
03:26 < mexicatl> mentioning a particular neighborhood, that has a terrible mayor
03:26 < mexicatl> who have taken the side of the "radio universidad de oaxaca"
03:27 < mexicatl> can't compare the bipedal animals to other animals because it isn't fair
03:27 < mexicatl> call for an extraordinary meeting tomorrow
03:28 < mexicatl> a department of health meeting at 9 am in santo domingo
03:28 < mexicatl> the convocation is only for the department of health
03:29 < mexicatl> needed equipments: same as above, batteries AA, AAA, string and bags to fill with gasoline
03:29 < mexicatl> no need for the chain, it has been provided
03:30 < mexicatl> visitor in the studio
03:30 < mexicatl> !(in zapotec, can't translate, but makes me happy to hear)
03:33 < mexicatl> --
03:33 < mexicatl> spanish translation
03:33 < mexicatl> it is an invitation to all the people of certain regions
03:34 < mexicatl> to approach the barricades and help the APPO, because they are all people
03:34 < mexicatl> the land of benito juarez and the brothers magon
03:34 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:34  * luna go mexi
03:35 < mexicatl> !oh, not in spanish
03:35 < mexicatl> asking people unite with the APPO
03:35 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:36 < mexicatl> --
03:36 < mexicatl> ask for all people from my town to unite to the struggle and not sleep in their homes
03:36 < mexicatl> to defend their city
03:37 < mexicatl> --
03:37 < mexicatl> talking about the variety of oaxaca
03:37 < mexicatl> with so many indigenous communities
03:38 < mexicatl> tells them that the mikes are open to all
03:38 < mexicatl> --
03:39 < mexicatl> !music
03:40 < mexicatl> !will be back in 5 mins
03:46 < mexicatl> !back
03:46 < mexicatl> a citizen's denounciation
03:47 < mexicatl> vans have been seen with federal preventive police wearing armor at the gas station
03:47 < mexicatl> !(more zapotec)
03:48 < mexicatl> --
03:48 < mexicatl> for the zapotecs of the south
03:49 < mexicatl> inviting them all to support this great people in this great struggle
03:50 < mexicatl> they government doesn't care about the people, when they see they are wearing sandals
03:50 < mexicatl> they make them feel worse
03:50 < Marky-aCe> I have been listening all day and thank you for translating. Much appreciated.
03:51 < mexicatl> calling for the southern sierras to support them
03:51 < mexicatl> this is a critical step in the creation of the movement
03:52 < mexicatl> today we succeeded in fighting off the federal preventive police and the government
03:52 < mexicatl> we are showing that the organized people has more power than their neo-liberal ways
03:53 < mexicatl> in the defense of the commune of oaxaca
03:53 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca is capable of everything
03:53 < mexicatl> --
03:54 < mexicatl> reports that there are clashes at the cinco señores for the past 15 minutes
03:54 < mexicatl> must be verified to know what to do
03:54 < mexicatl> people need to verify if there are clashes at the cinco señores, and see what it happening and who they are clashing with
03:55 < mexicatl> this information must be confirmed quickly for our listeners
03:55 < mexicatl> web addresses
03:56 < mexicatl> if this frequency starts sounding bad, then radio planton is rebroadcasting the signal
03:56 < mexicatl> telephone numbers
03:57 < mexicatl> recap of the events of the day
03:58 < mexicatl> asking yet again for ulises ruiz ortiz's resignation
03:58 < mexicatl> asks for confirmation on the events at cinco señores
03:59 < mexicatl> (music)
04:08 < mexicatl> !back
04:08 < mexicatl> we will now be replace by our collegues
04:09 < mexicatl> more missing people, detained between 1-2 at the clashes at the campus
04:09 < mexicatl> a pueblan is being detained at mihuatlan prison
04:09 < mexicatl> we will be replaced, we have problems speaking now
04:10 < mexicatl> thanks for the patience and shall try to come back tomorrow
04:10 < mexicatl> --
04:11 < mexicatl> today was a historic day, oaxaca is an example for the country and the world
04:11 < mexicatl> call for people all over the country as part of civil society to come to oaxaca
04:12 < mexicatl> to come before saturday, we need to pressure now
04:12 < mexicatl> the struggle was heroic today, fighting against 5000 people with sticks and stones
04:12 < mexicatl> but that can't be held for long
04:13 < mexicatl> as someone not from oaxaca, he calls for people to come to oaxaca
04:13 < mexicatl> oaxaca and the movement and what they demand is necessary for all
04:14 < mexicatl> is ulises ruiz ortiz doesn't quit it would be a loss for all
04:14 < mexicatl> to people from mexico city, they must speed up and come today, yesterday, at the barricades
04:14 < mexicatl> it is more than heroic, people are now tired now
04:15 < mexicatl> people must organize now, otherwise they shall go only to ask for the liberation of the detained
04:15 < mexicatl> and the civil society shall soon reply and support the people of oaxaca
04:16 < mexicatl> the destiny of the commune of oaxaca is a model for many other movements
04:16 < mexicatl> oaxaca is a test base to experiment on by the government
04:16 < mexicatl> we must be victorious
04:17 < mexicatl> so that the government can't find the weak points to quench any similar movements elsewhere in the government
04:17 < mexicatl> we need to learn, organize
04:18 < mexicatl> oaxaca is a laboratory, where the federal government is trying to stop the peaceful insurrection, especially after the day of fighting
04:18 < mexicatl> then people are tired
04:19 < mexicatl> they talk now to the people of the military and the federal preventive police:
04:19 < mexicatl> it is in your choice to follow the orders you disagree with
04:19 < mexicatl> look to see who is in front of you, children, elders, unarmed people
04:20 < mexicatl> i appeal to what is left of human in you, we have seen you eat
04:20 < mexicatl> we know you are also human
04:20 < mexicatl> is the little money worth it, to soil your hands with blood?
04:20 < mexicatl> where are you from? where did they bring you from? where is your family?
04:21 < mexicatl> the people of oaxaca do not want this government
04:21 < mexicatl> why can't the people pressure for the change of a governor?
04:21 < mexicatl> is the 7000 pesos worth the torture of your people?
04:22 < mexicatl> i hope you reflect well before you follow the order to shoot or attack
04:22 < mexicatl> it has been a heroic day
04:23 < mexicatl> we now change presenter with this song
04:23 < mexicatl> !music
04:26  * luna dale
04:33 < mexicatl> (back)
04:33 < mexicatl> it is 2244
04:33 < mexicatl> asking for information from the barricades
04:34 < mexicatl> it is difficult to stay awake at this time of the night
04:34 < mexicatl> --
04:34 < mexicatl> visitor from the UNAM
04:34 < mexicatl> this radio has kept us in the struggle
04:35 < mexicatl> we need to keep information going and keep a watch and sleep when necessary
04:35 < mexicatl> news: at the military base people are being held
04:35 < mexicatl> (lists of people)
04:36 < psuedo> 11 people
04:36 < mexicatl> if anyone knows were these people are, then call for information
04:37 < mexicatl> detained for thinking differently, in spite of our rights
04:37 < mexicatl> 1/5 of the country lives in misery
04:38 < mexicatl> we need: blankets, masks, woods, shirts, rags, vinegar, to prepare for any attack
04:39 < mexicatl> we prevented them from silencing us
04:40 < mexicatl> a song to raise our spirits
04:45 < mexicatl> --
04:45 < mexicatl> 2254
04:46 < psuedo> I will step in
04:46 < psuedo> (Im sorry I have plenty of noise)
04:47  * mexicatl back
04:48 < mexicatl> analisis on the lynching of the burning of two police
04:48 < mexicatl> the breaking of the social contract
04:48 < mexicatl> the social peace has been broken
04:48 < mexicatl> it has created a civil war in the city
04:49 < mexicatl> in the day of the dead, we now have the death of the peace
04:49 < mexicatl> the senate's commission is comes with hypocrasy
04:50 < mexicatl> the chinese say that the people has the government it deserves
04:50 < mexicatl> then we must change and rise up
04:50 < mexicatl> when the people see the police as the enemy something is wrong
04:51 < mexicatl> what happens in oaxaca will mark the social movements for the next six years
04:51 < mexicatl> when people see a police, they fear him
04:51 < mexicatl> --
04:51 < pseudo> 26 aarrested people
04:51 < pseudo> I will continue
04:52 < pseudo> We make a call to reinfoce the barricades
04:52 < pseudo> Plenty of groups have added to our stuggle
04:53 < pseudo> some music to raise the mood of our comrades at the barricades
04:55 < pseudo> (I am sorry, I am experiencing plenty of noise, I have reduced the high frecuencies of my tuner and now its harder to listen to womens voice) I will do my best
04:56 < pseudo> (Manu chao music Playing right now)
04:57 < pseudo> (Ska-p Music)
05:01 < pseudo> we are still here at radio universidad
05:02 < pseudo> hewe have been informed that a 11 year old boy, dressing a grey shirt with, blue pants and black tennis
05:03 < pseudo> we need help for the calicanto barricade
05:03 < pseudo> wtoday we have proven our descition to the goverment
05:03 < pseudo> we defended ourselves as we could, with rocks, sitck
05:04 < pseudo> I was there...
05:04 < pseudo> and the PFP was the first to attack
05:04 < pseudo> but our people is brave and decieded to defend our university
05:05 < pseudo> we invite our comrades to inform about what is really happening
05:05 < pseudo> in order to inform people
05:05 < pseudo> we need that you keep us informed
05:06 < pseudo> I want to send a nice greeting to all our comrades who fought thogether with us
05:08 < pseudo> People from volcanes please contact radio universidad
05:08 < pseudo> since they appear to be lost
05:08 < pseudo> I wont let any of our comrades in hands of the PFP
05:09 < pseudo> We demand the immediate release of our people
05:09 < pseudo> and we demand that they deliver all our arrested people with good health and alive
05:10 < pseudo> (Can anyone please step in? I have plenty of noise, its too hard to listen)
05:12 < pseudo> Today the chairman of the PFP said that the goal of the police operation was not to enter to the university
05:13  * luna one moment
05:15 < pseudo> Remember that Mr Abascal sweared on the name of god that the PFP was not going to invade oaxaca
05:15 < pseudo> he was lying
05:15 < pseudo> Stay alert to what may happen this night
05:17 < pseudo> We will keep fighting
05:17 < MM> find them, instead they you...
05:17 < pseudo> we need gogle, lamps, masks, bateries, clothes, socks, wood
05:18 < pseudo> locks
05:18 < pseudo> blankets
05:18 < pseudo> some music to keep awake
05:18 < pseudo> (Music)
05:23  * luna go?
05:24 < pseudo> (go please)
05:25 < luna> a while ago we reported 
05:25 < luna> that there was a child 
05:25 < luna> 2 years old 
05:25 < luna> missing
05:25 < luna> please it is with the colonos
05:25 < luna> and they dont know what to do with him
05:26 < luna> -
05:26 < luna> we are back in red alert
05:26 < luna> it is 2am now
05:26 < luna> and we dont have this confirmed
05:26 < luna> but the army is thinking about breaking in
05:26 < luna> with hellicopters
05:31  * luna ok we are listening to a different stream that has been set up by the indy techs that has a very heavy noise filter and is a lot clearer to listen to but there is a further delay between what is happening in oaxca an wht is being translated, ok?
05:32  * luna it is just a few seconds
05:35 < luna> -
05:36  * luna http://streaming.com.mx:8006/listen.pls
05:36 < luna> so we call for evryone to come down the university
05:36 < luna> and cover us
05:36 < luna> you know one day is not enough
05:37 < luna> what we need to do is defend our uni
05:37 < luna> with nails and teeth
05:37 < luna> as uni ppl we have to have a position
05:37 < luna> with the people
05:37 < luna> near the people
05:37 < luna> the our struggle 
05:37 < luna> means we have to be here with the people
05:39 < luna> >music
05:40  * luna Thursday, November 2, 2006 at 11:50:48 PM CST
05:44 < luna> so we are back in the studio
05:44 < luna> with a compa here 
05:44 < luna> who is going to give us an analisys
05:44 < luna> good night
05:44 < luna> why is CULO not steping down?
05:45 < luna> some say cuz he is in the hands of the rich
05:45 < luna> that the pan doesnt want him to leave
05:45 < luna> the international rejection grows
05:45 < luna> pan and ulises have an agreement
05:46 < luna> but these agreements never stand for long
05:46 < luna> in mexico
05:46 < luna> this is a pact of corruption
05:46 < luna> of organised crime
05:46 < luna> they all have proven links with mafia
05:46 < luna> an then they show themselves as politicians
05:47 < pseudo> Jean sucar kuri( the pederast) is related to gamboa patron (PRI)
05:47 < luna> lets remember than 75% of the whole country 
05:47 < luna> used to vote the PRI
05:47 < luna> was PRI
05:47 < luna> and so their tentacles reach far and wide
05:47 < luna> and everyone is afraid that if he goes, 
05:47 < luna> he talks
05:48 < luna> and starts to talk about 
05:48 < luna> all the links of each and every political party with the PRI
05:48 < luna> ask all of them 
05:48 < luna> from greenkids to PAN
05:48 < luna> all of them
05:48 < luna> lets hope thay die
05:48 < luna> --
05:48 < luna> --
05:48 < luna> its like this
05:49 < luna> politicians go from one party to the other
05:49 < luna> jumping along
05:49 < luna> with the mafia, with the drug dealers
05:49 < pseudo> politics are related to narcotraffic, religion, bussines
05:49 < luna> -
05:49 < luna> this is people with one mentality
05:49 < luna> and then thay call themselves reds, or of the left, or right
05:50 < luna> they call themselves of the left 
05:50 < luna> while with the right they take dirty  money
05:50 < luna> --
05:50 < luna> we have some really brave compas here
05:50 < luna> --
05:50 < luna> hi
05:50 < luna> good night 
05:50 < luna> s
05:50 < luna> we are 
05:50 < luna> from los rios
05:51 < luna> and we congratulate you for this great resisttance
05:51 < luna> and we wanna lt you know that you are not alont
05:51 < luna> alone
05:51 < luna> you know that this struggle is not easy
05:51 < luna> the end for the pri is near
05:51 < luna> and they dont like this struggle cuz they know
05:51 < luna> and it is important that we dont loose heart
05:52 < luna> their end is near
05:52 < pseudo> I will step in
05:53 < pseudo> We need to stay united
05:53 < pseudo> lets reinforce our university
05:53 < pseudo> this is our voice, lets not let them take our voice away
05:54 < pseudo> (music)
06:02 < pseudo> we are back
06:02 < pseudo> its november 3
06:02 < pseudo> a new
06:02 < pseudo> day
06:02 < pseudo> lets see what awake us
06:02 < pseudo> hopefully no more violence
06:02 < pseudo> I would like to talk a little bit about the role that the universities must play
06:03 < pseudo> we justify the defense of the entrance of the PFP
06:03 < pseudo> univeristies are the place where ideas come
06:03 < pseudo> there are no political reasons for taking our univeristy
06:04 < pseudo> nor for a radio that speaks freely
06:04 < pseudo> all our respect to our director
06:04 < pseudo> he may not agree with all our ideas, still he defended our univeristy
06:06 < pseudo> We make a call to all other universities (politecnico, UNAM, UAM ,UP,Universidad e la ciudad de mexico, universidad chapingo and all state universities from mexico)
06:06 < pseudo> to come to oaxaca and help us
06:06 < pseudo> we need more than your words
06:07 < pseudo> we need you to protect our campus
06:07 < pseudo> We need to establish good comunications
06:08 < pseudo> Universities are meant to produce knowledge
06:09 < pseudo> we invite people on the barricades to call us to report your situation
06:11 < pseudo> (some propaganda)
06:22 < pseudo> We are back at radio niversidad
06:23 < pseudo> we invite our barricades to call us to report their status
06:23 < pseudo> we demand the delivery of our arrested people alive
06:24 < pseudo> PFP will get tyired, we wont
06:25 < pseudo> televisa reports make me laugh
06:25 < pseudo> they are saying bullshit
06:26 < pseudo> our zocalo is empty now, people are afraid of PFP not afraid of us
06:27 < pseudo> rich people of oaxaca makes me laugh
06:27 < pseudo> Priistas are desesperate....
06:28 < pseudo> todays movement is their last resource
06:28 < pseudo> rich people ask for peace, and in the other hand they start war
06:31 < pseudo> the guy is telling a story about some PRIistas and rich people....
06:32 < pseudo> about their fake demonstration
06:34 < pseudo> (nothing relevant)
06:35 < pseudo> oaxaca has always been oppresed
06:35 < pseudo> we have always resisted
06:35 < pseudo> they never expect such a big reaction from us
06:36 < pseudo> most of the states in mexico are supporting our movement
06:36 < pseudo> mexico city is supporting too
06:36 < pseudo> we have also had international support
06:37 < pseudo> when have you Priistas had international support????
06:37 < pseudo> never, and you will never have it, becuase you are wrong
06:38 < pseudo> I think that Ulises is sick, he is sick for power, he makes us laugh
06:39 < pseudo> people that have showed their support from other countries has amazed our politicians
06:40 < pseudo> we invite all people in general to keep us informed
06:40 < pseudo> we are on a red alert situation
06:40 < pseudo> people from the barricades please report
06:40 < pseudo> we have eyes all around the city
06:41 < pseudo> please make brief reports
06:41 < pseudo> radio universidad is a open space, but at this moment we must be brief
06:41 < pseudo> (music)
06:43  * luna pseudo what stream are you listening to?
06:43 < pseudo> http://streaming.com.mx:8006/listen.pls
06:44 < pseudo> Would anyone please get me a pack of cigarrets????
06:44 < pseudo> Im joking
06:45 < pseudo> Sorry, i need to do some jokes to avoid going angry
06:49 < pseudo> we are back at radio universidad
06:49 < pseudo> we thank people that are making us a nice coffee
06:49  * luna i light a fag for you pseudo
06:50 < pseudo> and students that are taking care of our building
06:50 < pseudo> The parents of the baby havent reported
06:51 < pseudo> people that found the baby dont know what to do with him
06:52 < pseudo> greeting to radio zapote
06:52 < pseudo> in mexico city
06:53 < pseudo> greeting to all people that are listening to us
06:53 < pseudo> Our struggle today has been very demanding
06:53 < pseudo> but our comrades are still alert
06:54 < pseudo> poor policeman were dehydrating
06:55 < pseudo> while we were resisting, we made a human wall, and ther were some 100 PFPs, there was a commander and when he saw us he ran away
06:55 < pseudo> thanks for all the people who put water out of their homes for us to wash ourselves
06:56 < pseudo> since the water that the water tanks threw was not only water, it was mixed with some acid
06:56 < pseudo> We have another comrade missing, hes 33 years old, he disapeared at 12:00
06:56 < pseudo> jorge luis sanchez is the name
06:57 < pseudo> we shall make a complete list of all our missing people to make a demmand to get them back
06:58 < pseudo> we have another people missing
06:58 < pseudo> if you are hiding somewhere, please call home or call radio universidad
06:58 < pseudo> Marcos garcia martinez has already appeared
06:59 < pseudo> all missing people please call home
07:00 < pseudo> and call us so we can make a precise counting of our missing people
07:01 < pseudo> again, we need more people to take care of our university
07:01 < pseudo> we need to be aware...
07:02 < pseudo> you may also ask for a song, you can call us
07:02 < pseudo> people in the neighborhoods... reinforce your barricades
07:02 < pseudo> Unfortunately on the tv nes, they only show wounded policeman
07:02 < pseudo> they didnt show our wounded people
07:03 < pseudo> some wounded policeman were glad to get injured...
07:03 < pseudo> they are now going home
07:03 < pseudo> they wont have to attack people anymore
07:04 < pseudo> (music)
07:15 < pseudo> 5110844 is the phone in our cabin
07:15 < pseudo> to make your reports
07:15 < pseudo> I am going to read a text
07:15 < pseudo> ...
07:20 < pseudo> Education is what moves us forward....
07:21 < pseudo> and Pri wants us not educated
07:21 < pseudo> another missing person was fouend, fernando ruiz
07:21 < pseudo> he is now helping us protect radio universidad
07:22 < pseudo> its nice that we found or comrade
07:22 < pseudo> greeting to the teachers from the university who support APPO
07:23 < pseudo> more music
07:24 < pseudo> dedicated to all our fighting comrades
07:24 < pseudo> (MUSIC)
07:33 < pseudo> its 1:42 am
07:33 < pseudo> we are sleepy
07:33 < pseudo> we invite all people to call us an report your sitiation, give your opinion
07:34 < pseudo> we have to make it hard for the PFP
07:34 < pseudo> lets set barricades
07:34 < pseudo> the zocalo belongs to the people
07:35 < pseudo> a big hug to the family of our deceased
07:36 < pseudo> we need more people here at the university
07:37 < pseudo> people that rescued the baby from the PFP need to contact the parents
07:38 < pseudo> a two year old baby was taken by the PFP
07:38 < pseudo> they have no hearts
07:38 < pseudo> big rejection to you
07:39 < pseudo> unfortunately before our great fight at our university
07:39 < pseudo> we wer shot by gunfires
07:39 < pseudo> big gun fires
07:39 < pseudo> riffles
07:39 < pseudo> fortunately they didnt kill anyone
07:40 < pseudo> Once again the goverment shows his power against the students
07:40 < pseudo> gun shots right now from priistas at panoramica del fortin
07:41 < pseudo> lets try to record the facts
07:41 < pseudo> We have a calling....
07:42 < pseudo> im mr jose chavez fron distrito fedraal
07:42 < pseudo> we support you
07:42 < pseudo> we believe that the pople from oaxaca is right
07:43 < pseudo> (some communication problems)
07:43 < pseudo> we think that Mr URO must quit
07:43 < pseudo> must quit killing people
07:43 < pseudo> We ask Vicente fox not to put blood on his hands
07:44 < pseudo> please go to fortin...
07:44 < pseudo> bring your cameras
07:44 < pseudo> lets take pictures
07:45 < pseudo> to this damn priistas
07:45 < pseudo> Another call....
07:46 < pseudo> Tomorrow will take place the assambly
07:46 < pseudo> we have to make decitions
07:46 < pseudo> we have now realized about the real intentions of the goverment
07:47 < pseudo> tomorrow we will make the most important decition
07:47 < pseudo> we invite all teachers to come to the assambly
07:48 < pseudo> we shall decide what to do
07:48 < pseudo> Vicente fox s and felipe calderon goverment is al based on lies
07:48 < pseudo> we condem what happened today
07:49 < pseudo> we may have believed in the new goverment
07:49 < pseudo> but they have showed that they cant be trusted
07:49 < pseudo> we deserv another reality
07:50 < pseudo> this goverment worths no dignity
07:50 < pseudo> fucking traitors
07:51 < pseudo> we ask agian people to como take care of our university building
07:51 < pseudo> Another Calling....
07:52 < pseudo> (cant translate, too bad audio)
07:54 < pseudo> (would someone plese step in?)
07:54 < pseudo> some more music
07:54 < pseudo> we are all tyired
07:54 < pseudo> we need music to avoid falling asleep
07:54 < pseudo> (MUSIC)
07:58 < pseudo> (People I am very tired, would someone please step in)
08:01 < pseudo> (Do you want me to contine to trnslate?)
08:10 < pseudo> (I will go have some sleep)
08:15  * luna is away: ido
08:19  * luna is back (gone 00:03:58)
08:24  * luna is away: ido
08:24  * luna is back (gone 00:00:18)
09:18 < SadeClown> People in the States need to wake up.
09:18 < SadeClown> Council on Human Rights should not be presided over by Mexico.
12:48 < XaViER> can someone translate?
12:57 < kev> pra militare
12:58 < kev> df
12:58 < kev> hold on
12:58 < kev> 6:15 shoots are fired a Radio Universidad of oaxaca from a van with polarized windows
12:58 < kev> shoots are fired at Radio Universidad of Oaxaca from a van with plarized windows
12:59 < kev> no injuries
13:01 < XaViER> thanks kev, we are in need of info
13:01 < kev> no problem
13:08 < lupa> está caida la radio?
13:09 < kev> no creo
13:09 < kev> solo suena muy mal
13:15 < ruche> hola
13:16 < ruche> ¿se ha cortado la transmision desde oaxaca?
13:16  * pwd is away: a+
13:21 < ruche> gente!!
13:21 < ruche> se puede hacer algo para solucuionar la transmision ??
14:15 < [celia]> is the radio appo working?
14:15 < skep> nope
14:15 < [celia]> :/
14:15 < skep> (the streams do not work..don't know about the radio itself)
14:16 < Marky-aCe> I can not get any of them to work very strange
14:16 < mexicatl> they're taking a break, too tired from yesterday
14:16 < Marky-aCe> hope so
14:16 < Marky-aCe> thx
14:16 < mexicatl> i called and asked, we were worried too :)
14:16 < [celia]> i hope too
14:17 < Marky-aCe> its just that the other stream are not working from the internet
14:17 < jolly> Radio Ke Huelga: http://stream.r23.cc:2323/kehuelga.mp3.m3u
14:17 < [celia]> does anybody knows if the pfp is in radio?
14:17 < Marky-aCe> thx everyone must go and do some work. SeeYa
14:49 <@ruche> la radio está desconectada por un rato para que descansen los equipos
14:58 < brie> The radio is down for now so that the equiptment can rest
15:00 < brie> sorry, so that the teams can rest
15:02 <@ruche> the teams?
15:02 <@ruche> i understood that the equipment was resting
15:03 <@malegria> could be both
15:04 < zureich> hallo
15:05 < brie> I got confused on the double meaning of equipos
15:05 < brie> but, I'm sure it's both regardless
15:06 < zureich> i try http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u: only disturbance
15:06 <@ruche> The radio is down for now so that the equiptment can rest
15:06 <@CntrlAltDel> *shit*
15:06 <@CntrlAltDel> that ban... was a failure 
15:06 <@ruche> i thunk
15:12 <@brie> mexicatl - you did an amazing job translating last night
15:12 <@brie> thanks
15:13  * zapATIsta is very thankful for pseudo's help as well!
15:13 <@brie> and luna
15:31 <@gdm> roundup now of the events of 'day of the dead' in oaxaca
15:31 <@zapATIsta> yes luna. Thanks!!!
15:47 <@assata> ei
15:47 <@assata> algum pode checar pq a imagem nao sobe?
16:09 < AltDel> the stream is working again :D
16:10 <@XaViER> :-) can someone translate again?
16:11 < AltDel> my spanish is too bad :( ...
16:13 <@brie> at 12 there will be a popular assembly, please come
16:15 <@brie> There were bullets that were fired at the walls outside the radio, but no one was shot
16:15 <@brie> we need the presence of the people of Oxaca in the barricades
16:17 <@brie> its very important that all of you that can come to the march to day against the murderers of our companeros and to ask for the liberty of our people 
16:17 <@brie> thereis a mobilization to pressure the corrput government
16:18 <@brie> the dissapreared folks from yesterday that haven't called home, 5 or 6 people, we still haven't had contact with them
16:18 <@brie> yesterday was a victory for our movement and we are very proud -  the people are very brave
16:19 <@brie> Radio Universitaria - the Radio of the Truth
16:19 <@brie> \
16:20 <@brie> *if anyone can help translate that would be great - I can't type that fast*
16:21 <@brie> (musical break) 
16:22 <@brie> hello and welcome back
16:23 <@brie> there is an assembly to day at noon
16:23 <@brie> *I can't hear it very well - anyone know of another feed???*
16:24 <@brie> Woman children men, old people , everyone, whatever your capacity please come out and support
16:24 <@brie> we're happy to be back in communication with you, dear people
16:25 <@brie> The radio and university if of the people and for the people'
16:26 <@brie> Here there are children that are dying of hunger, people don't know how they can live, how thery can eat. Children that are forced to go to the US to work and are exploited
16:26 <@brie> this is how it is - for this reason we need to go into the streets and fight for economic and labor rights
16:27 <@brie> We know that the future "president elect" is going to be giving even more repression
16:27 <@brie> Anther dissapeared person, a woman
16:27 <@brie> Amanda Pina Martintez
16:27 <@brie> we are asking for your cooperation in finding a 45 year old professor
16:28 <@brie> short, chubby, with dark hari
16:28 <@brie> Gerardo Jimenez Vasquez
16:28 <@brie> Marco Antnio - another dissapeared person
16:29 <@brie> If you are one of these people or know where they are, please contact your families and let us know that you are safe
16:29 <@brie> It's important  to delever specific imformation when reproting dissapear people - age, name, scars, hari color, etc
16:30 <@brie> These dissapearances are a violation of human rights
16:30 <@brie> There were 4 soliders who brutally beat a young man who was coming to support the fight - he was in the mobilization and he was brutally beaten. We don't know his name.
16:31 <@brie> He was taken away - if you know who this person is, please call the radio - give is name and charactieristics
16:31 <@brie> The PFP is picking off suspicious looking people
16:32 <@brie> Be careful walking in groups of more than 2 or 3 because PFP are coming in trucks and picking people up - it's dangerous, be careful
16:33 <@brie> If you come in big groups- be careful - remember that these people (the PFP) are professionals 
16:34 <@brie> Here in the radio we have the help of the International Human Rights Leaugue - you can call here to talk to them if you need hepl. If you have someone that is dissappeared or detained, they can help
16:34 <@brie> Thank you for having us here and giving us the space to speak - what we want is that the people of Oaxaca 
16:35 <@brie> are able to have control of their governmant
16:35 <@brie> the are tired of being lied to, expoited
16:36 <@brie> Ruiz has to account for millions of pesos that he has spent in the past 2 years
16:36 <@brie> it's not only Oaxaca that's hungry - the entire country has been ransacked for years
16:36 <@brie> People are looking for work and there are no resources
16:37 <@brie> The people are fed up that the government has liscence to kill, to lie
16:37 <@brie> We want the education   of 300,000 children
16:37 <@brie> why can't they provide classed, education>
16:37 <@brie> because this is not their priority
16:38 <@brie> Lastly, citizens of the oaxaca nd the world, cause this going all over the owrld - this the hour
16:40 <@brie> This is not the time to abandon our brothers and sisters 
16:40 <@brie> and wants his people to live with dignity in this world
16:40 <@brie> This fight is not only of Oxaca, because Oaxaca is not the only place that is hungry
16:40 <@brie> This is a pacific fight - the people are seeking justice and god is with us
16:40 <@brie> we are creating the true history of oaxaca
16:40 <@brie> we have a god that wants and looks for justice
16:41 <@brie> Thank you to the university and to the young people who are setting an excellent, brave example
16:41 <@brie> Ruiz- get out of Oxaca
16:41 <@brie> If you know of people that have been dissapeared or detained by the PFP, please call
16:42 <@brie> Thank to the companera for her commentaries
16:42 <@brie> We want to say hello to all the people there in Oaxaca who have been fighting and are our inspiraction
16:43 <@brie> Here is a companero from Vancouver, Canada
16:43 <@brie> PFP get out!!
16:43 <@brie> We want to wish you good luck in the actions you are doing - the power of the people is stronger than the lies that they spread
16:45 <@brie> We are doing actions as well - there was one yesterday and today at the Mexican consulate
16:45 <@brie> There was a shootout around 6 this morning
16:45 <@brie> (in Oaxaca)
16:45 <@brie> This radio is the true heart of the resistance in Oaxaca - we support you!
16:46 <@brie> All of our hearts are with you
16:46 <@brie> ***I can't hear very well - the signal is beaking up - does any one have another feed they know of??**
16:47 <@brie> Thank you for communicating with us from vancouver, we'll be in touch
16:48 <@brie> When *a lot os being missed here - he is talking about making masks to protect against the gas, and is being funny, giving "gossip"*
16:49 <@zapATIsta> ***brie are ytou listening through? http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/appo.mp3.m3u  ?  ***
16:50 <@brie> People that were hurt yesterday, we got them cured up and they went back into the streets to confront the police 
16:51 <@brie> thank you and I'll be back in a bit with more jokes
16:51 <@brie> Thanks companero for making us laugh, because our laughter is another way to fight the PFP
16:51 <@brie> We're checking the signal to see if things are coming though
16:53 <@brie> Yesterday when the battle with the PFP ended, there was alot of food that was brought to our companeros
16:53 <@brie> that is wonderful - people brought food, wood, stones
16:54 <@brie> we have reserves now - thank you for bringing supplies to the resistance
16:54 <@brie> also, we can forget that the struggle is against the horrible government, against Ruiz
16:55 <@brie> we need to make the PFP understand that they are also victims of bad governent and of dictatorship - we are all affected
16:55 <@brie> In 40 minutes we are asking that people who have family members missing listen to the list of dissapeared folks 
16:56 <@brie> that they listen and let us know if people have been found
16:56 <@brie> Please everyone - do NOT pass on information that is not confirmed
16:57 <@brie> all of the people that are in the barricades - be VERY cafreful of infiltrators
16:57 <@brie> those that are they know who they are
16:57 <@brie> we will avoid acts of vandalism 
16:57 <@brie> please control people who are provocing thing
16:57 <@brie> do not loot any business
16:57 <@brie> we need to keep things calm
16:58 <@brie> the death squads in the neightborhood are more dangerous in this moment than the PFP
16:58 <@brie> We urge you to, where ever you are and can hear us, please act with much responsibility
16:59 <@brie> we are going to take care of our companeros, our business, our streets
16:59 <@brie> BE very cafeful of the death squads
16:59 <@brie> we are soon going to be giving the names of the first people that have been freed
16:59 <@brie> *names of people that have been dissapears - all between 18-22 years old, all students*
17:00 <@brie> If you can hear this all, of you please communicate with your families or call here
17:00 <@brie> Everyone that can take videos, recordings etc. please do so - it;s very important
17:01 <@brie> we have an announcement:
17:01 <@brie> watch out for people that are coming in trucks they are unmarked and of many different colors and models - they are picking people up
17:01 <@brie> the people inside are dressed in black
17:02 <@brie> This is a person that is calling from the US(?)
17:02 <@brie> All of humanity sulutes those that are fighting for freedom - your names are writing the true hustory of our people
17:03 <@brie> There are men and woman, the teachers, that are fighting to plant the seeds of a new society 
17:03 <@brie> One day humanity will understand
17:04 <@brie> we know that all of the good in the world, everyting we respect and hold dear, has been brought to us by our teachers
17:04 <@brie> they have always moved forward and cleared the paths for us
17:04 <@brie> what can I do as a young girl? I can't allow this injustice to pass and I will fight
17:05 <@brie> I am certain that we will not forget this fight and that we will arrive with the white dove of peace
17:05 <@brie> Thank you for your words companera
17:05 <@brie> We going to have a short musical break
17:05 <@brie> and we'll be right back
17:06 <@brie> *Public service announcement for the radio*
17:06 <@brie> (musical break)
17:07 <@brie>    ---- is anyone else able to step uo and translate? I can do it for another 20 mins or so-------
17:12 <@brie> hello, we are back
17:12 <@brie> At 11 in the morning, it's important to go to the march to unite the people of Oxaca
17:13 <@brie> If you can help us with materials, please do
17:13 <@brie> Please remember to be care of provocators, they may be priista
17:13 <@brie> we invite you o the march at 11am and to the assemby at 12
17:14 <@brie> everyone that is interested, 12 in Jaurez
17:14 <@brie> Acitizen is here to speak
17:14 <@brie> Good morning everyone
17:14 <@brie> yesterday was a difficult day, but a big experience 
17:15 <@brie> I want to tell you that the sturggle isn't easy, but luckily
17:15 <@brie> the majority of our oaxacan people has foud conciousness
17:15 <@brie> I ask - who are the Priistas?
17:15 <@brie> Those that recieve a pension?
17:16 <@brie> We shouldn't call these poor people Priistas - they are people that have not yet found conciousness - we should better call them animals that go behind the Priistas
17:17 <@brie> These people are not Priistas - the reality is that, these people with ambitions, with dreams of power and fascits attitudes, they will end with these ideals
17:17 <@brie> they will not understand that they have contributed to the disgrace of their people
17:18 <@brie> but today, thanks to this movement, people have found consciousness - for this reason
17:18 <@brie> I ask that the people who think that they want to be Priistas - to reflect a little bit
17:18 <@brie> to the victory of the people
17:18 <@brie> that they be with the people, their people
17:19 <@brie> After many injuries and struggles, the people of qaxaca are glorious
17:19 <@brie> we are learn how to political in Oaxaca
17:19 <@brie> they are teaching us the reality of our national - not only Oaxaca bu the entire country
17:19 <@brie> All of our resources are going into the pockets of the powerful
17:20 <@brie> we heard from Ruiz mouth that 7 million pesos were lost
17:20 <@brie> and where did it go? to the pockets of these people
17:20 <@brie> But now we are organizing
17:21 <@brie> Although, some of you are still half asleep - open your godamn eyes
17:21 <@brie> Citizens - I invite you to reflect, to struggle, and to come to the barricades
17:21 <@brie> Why? because in the place where we didn't have barricades, this is where the forces of corruption entered
17:22 <@brie> I want to say hello to the people taht are out there, supporting this struggle, out there in the barricades, in the marches - you all have been with us
17:22 <@brie> We will shout out in the air taht we have won
17:23 <@brie> We will start new projects for work that will benefit everyone
17:23 <@brie> You all know that truly, this is what we want to do
17:23 <@brie> We will reconstruct what they have destroyed
17:24 <@brie> this isn't is the job that we want, but as consious people, this is what we have to do to
17:24 <@brie> So, I invite the people in neighboring places to join our stuggle
17:24  * luna yo brie- go go go go :)
17:25 <@brie> Professors that are at home, those with out jobs, all of those that are at home resting
17:25 <@brie> waiting for us to win
17:25 <@brie> come into this fight!
17:25 <@brie> we have to win all together
17:25 <@brie> also I want to say to the people with jobs
17:26 <@brie> those that are in oaxaca they know very well what the situacion is
17:26 <@brie> many of them are also poor that have recived government salaries
17:26 <@brie> these shit wages don't reach what they need to to pay for everything you need
17:27 <@brie> the government wants theese people to be quiet, to not have time to speak up
17:27 <@brie> speak up! React!
17:27 <@brie> The laws are not made for us - the laws are made for those in power - reflect please - how many are 
17:27 <@brie> swimming in ignorance and poverty??
17:28 <@brie> There is a huge ignorance about what is happening in Oaxaca, it is everyone
17:28 <@brie> so, one more time, please reflect
17:28 <@brie> step up - 
17:28 <@brie> we are exploited
17:29 <@brie> we need to understand taht it's in the air, the sun, the cold
17:29 <@brie> when these people are there in their nice hotels with good foos
17:29 <@brie> food
17:29 <@brie> Enough of this - enough of the governor filling thier purses on our backs
17:29 <@brie> As long as there is misery, there will be protests
17:30 <@brie> Reflect please - on our force as a people
17:30 <@brie> what kind of sadness do we live in when fathers have to leave their houses because of bombs going off?
17:31 <@brie> take advantage of this to denounce this to the commission on human rights
17:31 <@brie> because cameras didn't capture everything
17:31 <@brie> they don't care if they kill kids, whoever
17:31 <@brie> so, I yell out - any person who has any problem, we've seen some we can't fix, tell it directly to the government
17:32 <@brie> what can we hope for from these government people??
17:32 <@brie> we have to look to the power that we have in our hands
17:32 <@brie> Today Oaxaca has stood up to fight the oppressor!
17:32 <@brie> Reflect please, join this struggle
17:32 <@brie> thank you for letting he express this - good luck
17:33 <@brie> Thank you for your words - hopefull many people have heard this messege
17:33 <@brie> ***luna, can you take a turn?**
17:34 <@brie> There are 5 men who are thought to be Priistas in the barricades and are provoking things - if you see them, please report it
17:35 <@brie> If you know of people that have been dissapeared or who have been freed, please call the radiop
17:35 <@brie> *list of names of dissapeared people*
17:35 <@brie> If the priest from the chruch here can here us, please report
17:36 <@brie> Good after noon - I want to say to the teachers and to those who have been supporting this struggle - please listen for a minute
17:36 <@brie> Many teachers have been working for the past week  - I don;t know if they are afraid??
17:37 <@brie> I urge these teachers to not to the dirty side of the governemtn
17:37 <@brie> 2nd thing - get out to the protests
17:37 <@brie> they have been many people who have bravely fought
17:38 <@brie> those that are sitting at home on their couches - have some conciousness and a little shame for not doing anything
17:38 <@brie> These people that are fighting are teachers that really know that meaning of dignity
17:38 <@brie> 3rd thing
17:39 <@brie> I oblige those that started this fight to finish it, and with dignity
17:39 <@brie> I want to reflect with the teachers
17:40 <@brie> it a consequence od the stupid decions of the government that we are in this situations
17:40 <@brie> but there is alot of support, inlcuding international support
17:40 <@brie> Ruiz- we renounce you
17:41 <@brie> Ruiz is being shown to already be a dead man
17:42 <@brie> Now more than ever, we need to react to these leaders who have sold us out
17:42 <@brie> * need to step back - can someone step up please?**
18:18 <@stacy> any agression against oaxaca is agression against all mexico
18:18 <@stacy> there is a hunger strike in DF
18:19 <@stacy> there is a march starting in oaxaca
18:19 <@stacy> look out for agent provocateurs
18:21 <@stacy> there will also be a meeting of representatives from the barricades and colonias
18:21 <@stacy> we need to have agreement on the agenda to be strong and united
18:22 <@stacy> music and then we will talk about the events of today and yesterday
18:24 <@stacy> boompa boompa boompa...
18:30 <@stacy> i't
18:30 <@stacy> s important to go to the march
18:31 <@stacy> to represent the disappeared and the dead
18:31 <@stacy> it will be a peaceful protest
18:31 <@stacy> there are international people there
18:32 <@stacy> a message to the international press
18:32 <@stacy> respect the stories the people tell you
18:39 <@stacy> we don't have a music or theatre school in our state
18:39 <@stacy> who will be the artists to represent mexican culture?
18:41 <@stacy> since the 30th we've been living in the radio station with blankets
18:41 <@stacy> because the police won't give up
18:43 <@stacy> we call on all of the students to gather and demand a school
18:43 <@stacy> for the arts
18:44 <@stacy> there are caravans in support coming from DF tomorrow morning
18:45 <@stacy> the phone line is open
18:45 <@stacy> thanks for the support of the pueblo
18:48 <@stacy> 'i think she said that URO is going to change his education minister, but i could be wrong about the title
18:50 <@stacy> 70-80% of the state are indigenous people
18:52 <@stacy> ' a woman talking about how the PRI military threatened her
18:53 <@stacy> ' before she didn't agree, but now she supports the movement
18:54 <@stacy> it was always the pri, but now we need a change
18:54 <@stacy> 'thanks the woman
18:55 <@stacy> list of the disapeared
18:55 <@stacy> 22 people
18:56 <@stacy> ' sorry... its a list of prisoners
18:57 <@stacy> we demand their immediate liberation
18:58 <@stacy> if you know of disapeared people, bring us a recent photo
18:58 <@stacy> give us the details of their clothes, weight, everything
18:58 <@stacy> it is important to have this information
18:59 <@stacy> a caller
18:59 <@stacy> i'm with radio 'predia'
18:59 <@stacy> we want peace
18:59 <@stacy> but they're shoting at us
19:00 <@stacy> the pri is our enemy
19:00 <@stacy> but it is also our relatives
19:00 <@stacy> how can there be peace?
19:01 <@stacy> we are going to remove these insect in power
19:01 <@stacy> for 70? 76? years
19:01 <@stacy> we want them gone
19:01 <@stacy> we want peace
19:01 <@stacy> we will unite for everyone
19:01 <@stacy> ' he's ranting a bit now
19:03 <@stacy> ' he hung up
19:03 <@stacy> we will not allow Calderon as our president
19:03 <@stacy> music
19:08 <@stacy> 'the PFP have bought up all of something... i don't know what
19:08 <@stacy> if anyone knows why, please call
19:08 <@stacy> ' "canicas"
19:09 <@stacy> ' "marbles"
19:11 <@stacy> ' **I have to go now... anybody else want to take over?  Sweeper?**
19:22 < brie> we have to ask people to please be breif b/c we don't have much signla
19:22 < brie> please, please come to radio, people of oaxaca, we have to organize ourselves
19:22 < brie> even though we don't have much of a signal, we're goingto keep going
19:23 < brie> if you are in an area that we haven't heard from, please call in
19:23 < brie> in one of the zones they are no longer recieving our signal
19:23 < brie> we should know that our signal might be lost
19:24 < brie> we are not going to let the PFP take one step closer 
19:24 < brie> we please come! we need to organize ourselves, calmly and with disciple
19:24 < brie> we are winning - we need to continue to demonstrate unity and solidarity
19:25 < brie> wherever you are - we need to creat a phone chain to report news to places that are no longer recieving the signal - call them to come her eto the radio
19:25 < brie> as fast as they can
19:25 < brie> but be careful -
19:25 < brie> don't run, be calm
19:25 < brie> people are still being detained
19:25 < brie> careful, careful - we're going to get there
19:26 < brie> we ask that Perdo Servantes Dios - your mom can find you here in the radio
19:26 < brie> The studients from the Centro and artists - that they renunciate the enterance of the PFP
19:27 < brie> we are asking for companeros that have technical experience
19:27 < brie> we needa  "mededor de campo" of A M
19:27 < brie> as quickly as possible
19:27 < brie> people wth technical electrncic skills - please
19:28 < brie> Here are some compas from Toronto Canada
19:28 < brie> We just came back from a n action here at the Mexican Consulate
19:28 < brie> for our part here - our love, energy and luck to you all
19:28 < brie> thank you for your support
19:28 < brie> We'll be here at the radio until Ruix falls
19:29 < brie> We need to know if the 5 Men are still recieving the signal
19:29 <@yuri> 5 Senhores
19:29 < brie> this is our sounds of alarm:  ring the bells, bang the pots
19:29 < brie> for those that are online ---
19:30 < brie> it's urgent that you alart your neighbors
19:30 < brie> it is urgent!
19:30 < brie> we come back with a call -
19:30 < brie> the people that are hearing this on the internet
19:30 < brie> We need a "mededor de campo" de A M
19:31 < brie> we need this please, from those with technical skills
19:31 < brie> this voice (our radio) is alive - we will not be quiet 
19:31 < brie> before there wasn't radio or telephones
19:32 < brie> but now companeros, we have it - but we need to make phone chains (trees) to alert our neighbors that might not have signal - this is urgent!
19:32 < brie> now, we are having a musical break, but we will return
19:32 < brie> (Musical break)
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> hola soy Aldux de la blanqueada Fm de Montevideo
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> ustedes están transmitiendo en Fm
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> Streaming de Web
19:34 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> Me pregunta gente que no tienen internet
19:35 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> si están transmitiendo en Onda Corta
19:35 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> en alguna Banda
19:35 < brie> this is for transation only- please use the  general indymedia room for chat
19:35 <@salaud> Radio_Lablanqueadafm: este canal es solo por el traducion
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> ah
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> cual es el canal de la radio
19:36 < brie> por favor k usas el cuarto indymedia general para plactear
19:36 <@salaud> ... #radio
19:36 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> para contactarse entre radios sin ser ·radio
19:38 < Radio_Lablanqueadafm> gracias y chau
19:44 < brie> Mededor de campo = AM transmitter
19:51 < brie> This song is Amanda by Victor Jara
19:54 < brie> Advertisement for Radio Universidad
19:57 < brie> Citizens of Oxaca and those that are listening 
19:57 < brie> please, it's urgent
19:58 < brie> this is a message for technical people 
19:58 < brie> We desperately need you to find us an AM transmitter
19:58 < brie> please, all of you that are listening, we need to create a phone change to keep in contact with family members, co workers, etc, to ask them to here to the radio
19:58 < brie> we are going to be here contunially recieving message
19:59 < brie> this fight is in each one of our hands - we all have to do everything we can
19:59 < brie> right now, we need to call our friends, family, etc. and ask them to come here to the radio
19:59 < brie> also, be as loud as possible - with your voices, pans, whatever in the street
19:59 < brie> let people know they need to come out
20:00 < brie> Were going to keep going with music because it seems that our signal is better when we have music
20:00 < brie> but we need everyone's help and support
20:00 < brie> (cut signal - no sound at all)
20:01 < brie> do other people hear anything????
20:02 < brie> *I'm not hearing any sound)
20:02 <@jebba> ! brie upstream appears down
20:54 < mommy> brie????
20:56 < rUUd> radio is down?
20:56 < brie>  - antena is being fixed - has been tampered with-
20:56 < rUUd> ok
20:57 < mommy> aha....I'm  going toswithc I'puters...givemeafew
20:57 <@jebba> brie, where are you getting this info? 
20:57 < brie> only from the general indymedia room
20:58 <@niko> the antena needs some chili ;-)
20:58 <@stacy> folks, can we not chat in here please?  Go to #indymedia for commentary
20:58 <@jebba> ! me doesn't see this in #indymedia, but oh well....
20:59 <@niko> stacy: this is not commentary.. we are trying to figure out what is going on... bye now
21:00 <@niko> stacy: and please post verified tech updates (antena stuff, etc) in #radio
22:31 < NorthStar> # radio appo is finally back
22:33 <@toya> 24 companheiros arrested on teh 31th
22:33 <@toya> will probably be release today or tomorrow
22:34 <@toya> they are giving the names of the ppl is detainned
22:34 <@toya> all the days - that they know till now
22:50 <@gaba> (music)
22:55 <@gaba> we invite you to continue movilizasing in the barrikades. here is a companiero from the universidty. he is inviting us to something.
22:55 <@gaba> "good afternoon. i want to invite you for the next november 5th to be at 10am in the monument juarez because from there we will be marching"
22:55 <@gaba> because the appo had decide to do this march and we are part of that then we invite you all to participate in this march
22:56 <@gaba> November 5th at 10PM in the Monument Juarez
22:56 <@gaba> the students of university repudiate the use of violance and we dont think is the way to resolve this conflict
22:56 <@gaba> we will defend all the possible the university autonomy
22:56 <@gaba> with discussion and talk
22:56 <@gaba> is a lie from the secretary that they are not trying to disturb our autonomy
22:57 <@gaba> the pfp was trying to go in through their vehicles in the university
22:57 <@gaba> they were throughing in tear gas in the university
22:57 <@gaba> it is weird that the media did not show how the pfp through the helicopter was arrivent
22:57 <@gaba> (the transmission stopped)
22:58 <@gaba> (it continues)
22:59 <@gaba> ...
22:59 <@gaba> we are calling everybody to march on november 5th at 10am
22:59 <@gaba> to kick out ulises...
22:59 <@gaba> for oaxaca to come back to the peace
22:59 <@gaba> we dont caracterize to be violent
23:00 <@gaba> we think that when ulises ruiz leave then the peace will come back
23:04  * SadeClown is providing a stream from his server: http://nwoserver.myftp.org:8000/listen.pls
23:55 < psuedo> Radio universididad signal is beeing sabotaged, there is plenty of interference
23:56 < psuedo> radio universidad is trying to redirect their signat to another radio station, Radio gelatao
23:57 < pseudo> we are now going to send the list of comrade on jails
23:57 < pseudo> 5 peorsons on jail
23:58 < pseudo> 17 more persons on another jail,
23:59 < pseudo> (Radio universidad may go out of air soon)
23:59 < pseudo> were a going to list the persons who will be realeased ...
--- Log closed Sat Nov 04 00:00:40 2006
--- Log opened Sat Nov 04 00:00:40 2006
--- Day changed Sat Nov 04 2006
00:00 < pseudo> 20 peersons are a the jail of miahuatlan, and are going to be released
00:00 < pseudo> 2 more persons will be released from another jail
00:01 < pseudo> We make a call to all persons, neighbors to jion our struggle
00:02 < pseudo> Priistas are amazed because we are one step forward
00:02 < pseudo> The interference is being caused by an engineer of the SCT, (secretaria de comunicaciones y transportes)
00:03 < pseudo> One USB memory device is missing, the brand of the device is LG, please if you find it bring it to radio universidad
00:03 < pseudo> (Music)
00:11 < pseudo> we ask that given the interference, you move your antenna, go outside and try to tune the radio better
00:12 < pseudo> if we experience bigger interference, we may have to communicate more directrly, you may come to the university
00:13 < pseudo> in case of an attack fron the PFP, the alram signal will be making noise, by churchs jingles, horns, fireworks
00:13 < pseudo> we must stay alert...
00:14 < pseudo> If PFP tries to enter our university, we ask you to come and help us
00:15 < pseudo> its amazing the amoutn of persons that where arrested on this brutal police operation
00:15 < pseudo> please call us to report any missing persons
00:16 < pseudo> The PFP attacked by words a 15 year old girl who did nothing but to walk around
00:16 < pseudo> They are trying to frigteen us
00:16 < pseudo> they threaten us
00:17 < pseudo> The are defending thieir privileges of power and money, the are capalbe of selling their souls and killing anyone who opeses them
00:18 < pseudo> we have no money, we have no weapons, all we have is our brains, and knowing that we are right
00:18 < pseudo> we are not after any personal beneffit
00:19 < pseudo> you can help os with your precense at the barricades at the univeristy too
00:19 < pseudo> but you can aslo suppurt us with money, with supplies
00:19 < pseudo> our struggle is for a piece of food
00:20 < pseudo> our people has nothing to loose
00:20 < pseudo> the goverment is not interested in our situation
00:21 < pseudo> UROs servants, without money, are making the dirty job
00:21 < pseudo> we have to stay united
00:21 < pseudo> rich people is always fighting to stay in the power
00:22 < pseudo> lets react...
00:22 < pseudo> we have no time to think about what is good and what is wrong, the need makes us act
00:22 < pseudo> (The signal has been lost)
00:24 < NorthStar> :S
00:37 < pseudo> ( radio universidad seems to be back)
00:37 < pseudo> (please stand by)
00:38 < pseudo> (some music playing)
00:52 < pseudo> (Radio universidad is back on air) (They are now reading a letter)
00:54 < pseudo> Radio mapache is still transmitting
01:32 < NorthStar> only music on radio appo...and it doesn't sound like an AM transmition anymore
01:41  * luna THE FASCIST STATE OF ORTIZ AND FOX HAVE TAKEN DOWN OUR STATION
01:41  * luna RADIO UNIVERSIDAD IS OFF AIR
01:43 < NorthStar> omg :S
01:44 <@yuri> shit!!!
01:44 <@yuri> how that happened
01:44 <@yuri> ??
01:44 < elaine> estoy escuchando
01:45 < elaine> http://icecast.v2v.cc:8000/appo1.mp3
01:45 <@yuri> ué
01:45 <@yuri> foi ou não?
01:45 <@yuri> elaine, tá funcionando?
01:46 < elaine> um spot agora
01:46 < elaine> mas parou derrente e ficou uma voz no fundo, agora estrou um spot
01:48 <@yuri> luna
01:48 < luna> they are broadcasting 4m internet
01:48 < luna> hi yuri
01:48 <@yuri> what's goin on?
01:48 < luna> but not from the university anymore
01:49 < luna> they wana say to you
01:49 < luna> in the world
01:49 < luna> YOU
01:49 < luna> that 1400 FM
01:49 < luna> has been blocked
01:49 < luna> by the forces of darkness
01:49 < luna> so now are streaming 
01:49 < mexicatl> 1400 AM
01:49 < luna> from asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com
01:49 <@yuri> shit
01:50 < luna> he he
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> AM
01:50 < luna> and there is an email address
01:50 < luna> radio@
01:50 < mexicatl> it's surprising it lasted so long
01:50 < luna> asambleapopulardeoaxaca.com
01:50 < luna> to that you
01:50 < luna> can get in touch
01:50 < luna> and say hello
01:51 < luna> and send solidarity wishes
01:51 < luna> and now
01:51 < luna> our "song"
01:51 < luna> vencereeeeemos
01:51 < luna> vencereeeeemos
01:51 < luna> the only thing
01:52 < luna> `ppl?
01:52 < luna> `any ideas?
01:53  * luna keep in mind that it might be that oaxaca is going to be attacked now that apporadio is out
01:55 < pseudo> any any ideas for what???? luna
02:19  * luna radio zapote explaining what is happening http://radio.indymedia.org:8000/radiozapote-alta.mp3
02:20 < luna> the signal of appo radio 
02:20 < luna> has been intervened by the secretary
02:20 < luna> of coms and tranports
02:20 < luna> that means
02:20 < luna> the have lowered
02:21 < luna> the signal
02:21 < luna> -
02:21 < luna> anyway they are 
02:21 < luna> saying tht appo radio is off air
02:22 < luna> cuz they screwed with their equippment
02:22 < luna> the state is saying that
02:22 < luna> but it is not true
02:22 < luna> it is the statethat as messed with their signal
02:22 < luna> there is no attack
02:22 < luna> on the building
02:23 < luna> but we have this signal coming from the people of radio university
02:23 < luna> that is broadcasting
02:23 < luna> music
02:23 < luna> but not the ususal voices
02:23 < luna> the situation is calmed
02:23 < luna> tho tense
02:23 < luna> -
02:23 < luna> -
02:23 < luna> the signal 
02:24 < luna> from AM
02:24 < luna> and the stream
02:24 < luna> are sepparated
02:24 < luna> for security reasons
02:25  * luna and so that we can preservere our hearing
02:25 < luna> but the state is attacking the am signal
02:25 < luna> may be with a van near the station
02:26 < luna> of they might be broadcasting over the radio appo frecuency 
02:26 < luna> like a pirate over apporadio
02:26 < luna> or a number of other thing
02:26 < luna> we can
02:26 < luna> call them in university radio
02:26 < luna> and tell them we are listening and are keeing alert
02:27 < luna> and two
02:27 < luna> listen to stream
02:27 < luna> -
02:27 < luna> -
02:27 < luna> we have a constant stream of information from oaxaca
02:27 < luna> `zapote talking
02:27 < luna> and they say
02:27 < luna> that there isnt a violent sotuation in oax
02:27 < luna> the situation is tense
02:27 < luna> but at the mo 
02:28 < luna> "nothing" happens
02:28 < luna> it is true 
02:28 < luna> uni radio
02:28 < luna> is down
02:28 < luna> and it was really important for independent
02:28 < luna> news sources
02:28 < luna> but 
02:28 < luna> there are other ppl
02:28 < luna> getting info out
02:28 < luna> and they know what is happening
02:28 < luna> someone
02:29  * luna uufff
02:29 < luna> was asking wether there was an attack
02:29 < luna> on apporadio
02:29 < luna> or whether the apporadio broadcast
02:29 < luna> was being
02:29 < luna> "subverted"
02:29 < luna> and the message changed
02:29 < luna> but this wasnt real
02:30 < luna> appo radio need a field transmittor
02:30 < NorthStar> # Electromagnetic Field Meter
02:30 < luna> to see how they can get out of this situation
02:30  * luna cheers
02:30  * luna anyone has one?
02:31 < luna> can someone type the last thing they said?
02:31  * luna someone beeped us
02:31 < luna> everyone thinking about
02:32 < luna> going down to oaxaca
02:32 < luna> it is really important that you keep
02:32 < luna> organised
02:32 < luna> so bring a radio reciever
02:32 < luna> and a phone with plenty credit
02:32 < luna> and keep people at home informed about your
02:32 < luna> whereabouts 
02:33 < luna> someone you trust
02:33 < luna> back at home in DF
02:33 < luna> and dont go there "a la loca
02:33 < luna> so its been happening tha ppl have been worrying back at home
02:34 < luna> cuz they wherent hearing from ppl that went to oaxaca
02:34 < luna> -
02:34 < luna> -
02:34 < luna> check kehuelga radio in mexico.indymedia.org
02:34 < luna> and there are others like us
02:34 < luna> trying to pick radioappo
02:34 < luna> and that is zapote's priority too
02:34 < luna> check
02:35 < luna> zapote.radiolibre.org
02:35 < luna> vientos.info/clm
02:36 < luna> http://vientos.info/cml/
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:36 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
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02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37 < luna> boom booom 
02:37  * luna over 4 a bit, if anyone want to be more responsible than myself... please go ahead
02:38 < pseudo> I will cover you luna
02:41 < Prax01D> adrenaline...
02:48  * luna you cover yourself, pseudo-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontalism
02:49  * luna pseudo
02:49  * luna what stream are you listening to?