Dude, I answer people in whatever way I want. If that means I want to call you a fuckface while I attempt to pull your head out of your ass, then so be it. I am not posing. There is no "facade." I'm not "trying" to be cool -- I am ALWAYS cool regardless of what others think of me. I am being myself, and how the hell could I be anything else? (You will have trouble answering that question because, as a Christian -- oh, sorry, humanist? -- you believe in free will.)
this has nothing to do with anything....So I'll cut out all my bullshit
However, for the benefit of all the internet readers who stumble upon this page and for myself -- because I take great pleasure in showing people how I utterly DOMINATE weaklings like you with just my words! -- I will tear not only you a "new" new one (because I already gave you a "new one" in my last post) but also all of the miserable abortions who are directly related to you. On with your execution:
I'll be awaiting my execution, so far though it has yet to come and how screwed up you logic is I doubt if it will come from you..
hawkins21 wrote:I've read Nietzsche, I love Nietzsche and I know a lot about Nietzsche.
Except anything about his philosophy.
yes of course, how could I not know anything about Nietzsche. I ordered and bought his books only to not read them. Hey at least Walter Kaufman's family is making money off of my purchases..How horrible of me.....Oh man I guess my independent study of Nietzsche was just a waste of my time, wow I can't believe how I got that A...Wow Nietzsche notion of Aesthetics being the only means of value in this world, I cannot believe that I did not understand that. Man Nietzsche notion of Eternal Recurrence has not made me reevaluate my thoughts and decisions. I take it as if I happen to come back to live my life I will just be miserable. Oh how Nihilistic am I...There is no value in the world due to false christian doctrine. Wow I take that that since I am not an egoist like you I will be forever doomed by this conception of slave morality? I will resist change therefore being an impediment to my own progress, I cannot believe that I ever did let this happen. I guess I can always blame democracy and Christabel for promoting this notion of slave morality. I should always remember that man is not our ideal....thank you Nietzsche for allowing me to not know anything about you. I owe you one pal.....darn me......do you want me to stop now or keep on going? I think I'll stop, I proved my point..oh by the way you are nowhere near the Ubermensch...just thought I'd let you know..shall we proceed.
hawkins21 wrote:Anyhow you have no idea of how I am or what I do, so you shouldn't judge anything you do not know.
Weak defense mechanism. "Even though I've spewed paragraphs and paragraphs of vomit for you and everyone else to digest, you shouldn't 'judge' any of it because you don't know me personally." Yeah, way to attempt to protect yourself because you knew I'd come back for your ass. Look dude, after reading all of your shit, I know EXACTLY how you are, and all the astute readers of this page can see it too. We all see you for what you are -- a weak, confused, and illiterate little shit who can't take his education from his superior LIKE A MAN. Your words are on this page for everyone to read, along with my rebuttals -- either continue wallowing in your stupidity in front of everyone or just give up. It's hopeless, dude. I'm so far above you that I can barely see you.
haha you have no idea of who I am..For all you know I could be playing devils advocate. For all you know I could be an evil genius having fun with you. For all you know you could be talking to a serial killer who also happens to have friends who are hackers and will soon find you based off the computer that you logged in on....you said it yourself, objectivity as truth does not exist. what happened to that. If that is true then there is no way that you can figure out who I am, no matter how hard you've tried....I take it as that does not apply at this moment? This situation is an exception to that rule? oh well I thought you'd give a better response than that...oh by the way I'm still jerking you around. I'm actually enjoying this, you actually think you are doing something by ATTEMPTING to make me look bad, hilarious
hawkins21 wrote:All because someone decides to be creative and take a different and original position on a certain topic, this does not qualify them as a dumbass.
I'd hate to learn your definition of "creative." Probably someone who uses something other than toilet paper to wipe his ass.
Seriously, taking a "different" and "original" position on a topic is something "creative"? How about taking an INTELLIGENT position?
This I do agree with you, I actually do not remember saying that and it obviously has nothing to do with the topic so good job. About time.
hawkins21 wrote:I tend to focus on the secular humanistic, moral and conscious aspects of these topics
Which is, again, proof that you think like a Christian (more on this later). And what the fuck, "conscious aspects"? What are there, "comatose aspects" that you avoid talking about?
Buddhist care about humanity as well does that mean I think like a Buddhist? (if you doubt this try looking up the joke with the Buddhist, atheist, and christian, it might make you cry knowing that Christians or secularist are not the only ones who cares about humanity).. Gosh, this is too easy....
hawkins21 wrote:The guy who is in contemplation alone is far more better than the guy who follows the customs of society.
Only if he actually has a brain. Thinking on your own just doesn't cut it, dude.
having a brain does not mean anything and proves nothing. What if the guy is an egoist who is concerned only for himself, does that cut it? oh wait is your second sentence implying that one needs humanity? wow, there is still hope for you, time to turn things up a notch now!!!!
hawkins21 wrote:2. I am no christian (thank Zeus) and it is people like you who are impediments to progress since you are not concerned with the right things but yourself.
What PROGRESS, moron? What RIGHT THINGS? The PROGRESS of your precious HUMANITY or your precious RIGHTS FOR ALL? I am only concerned with my PROGRESS -- i.e., my natural, INEVITABLE progression, the one thing that is closest to me -- and cannot see ANYTHING else as being right. What is good for me IS the only right thing! Why is it so hard for you to see this?
I see it all right and your progress is dependent on someone else. (think about that for a moment and if you if you still fail to realize this on your next response I'll hold your hand and explain it to you but I'm sure a so called intelligent person like yourself is will figure it out).
hawkins21 wrote:This may be bad news for you but your not the only one on this planet so your thoughts matter, your actions matter, the intentions that your formulate towards other people matter. Believe it or not but we are all interconnected(no this is not a christian concept). I can prove this economically, politically, biologically, scientifically if you want me to. I have no problem with that. Its ok though I understand, Nietzsche tends to make people act stupid at first then they realize this is not what he meant.
This may be bad news for you, but this concept of "interconnectedness" has been known for THOUSANDS of years (read Heraclitus). Even a quick glance at modern physics will make it obvious to anyone in denial. But of course, though you, the weak subhuman, understand this concept, you STILL manage to take it and draw all of these SLAVISH conclusions from it! I, a man far mightier than you, say that yes, indeed, we are all connected, BUT THIS IN NO WAY OBLIGATES ANYONE TO HELP OTHERS! Because INDEED, YES, my thoughts, actions, intentions matter -- BUT THEY MATTER ONLY TO ME and MY RIGHT, MY PLEASURE, MY POWER, and fuck those who stand in my way!
your telling me something that I already know so your point is? Also this notion of interconnectedness proceeds Heraclitus. And yes this does make you obligated to other people. The fact that our actions have consequences (good or bad) indeed makes us obligated towards others. And your thoughts should matter to you (I would hope so) otherwise you would not be living your life. But remember what I said only ACTIONS
can bring consequences(thoughts can as well but since one is capable of separating one's thoughts from their actions makes thoughts somewhat irrelevant).
By claiming that objective truth exists, you are saying that "somewhere" there exists this gold standard by which everything must abide. It's like the silly "laws of nature" concept, whereby people believe that laws -- i.e., MAN-MADE FICTIONS -- must certainly exist in nature, and that every day in science we come closer to discovering "THE TRUTH" about how nature functions. Except that no matter how many new models physics generates, they are still just that -- MODELS -- and can never irrefutably show how the world works. In order to explain everything about this world, one must STEP OUTSIDE OF IT and look in, which is clearly a contradiction -- for smart people like me, that is, but not for religious people like you, who believe that there exists "something beyond" this realm or whatever retarded shit you hallucinate while you are on drugs.
Whew, I'm glad we are over the boring stuff now, time to turn it up just one more notch.Funny response and now mark your ammo. I'll bring things closer to home since you have a hard time understanding my point (which my 12 yr old nephew understood without my explanation). If you've meditated you'd understand that there is something beyond the vicissitudes of human experience(you'd understand that life is more than just searching for happiness and sorry joy and wonder, pleasure and pain). For me whats beyond is not some distant Utopian land but consciousness, the one element that is aware of itself and this is capable of being known from a third person perspective but only smart people like me will understand that. I'm not going to waste my time proving if I'm religious or not, you are certainly free to think what you want. Also there are metaphysical truths to the world. Science, philosophy, history, physics, etc are not going to find every single answer to every single metaphysical question but answers have been found and some will never be found due to human limitations....but this does not take away from the fact that there are TRUTHS.....Despite how many times the Dahli Lama meditates or the top scientific keeps formulating theories or the greatest philosopher in history philosophize, Pandora's Box will never be opened but this should not be the bases of trying to understand what we can and search for new answers. Only religious people or some nut head will come to conclusions about metaphysics and admit that there is no other alternative, something I oppose greatly of. so to be honest we are much closer on this than one realizes. the difference is is that your the nut head and I am not.
Similarly, for "absolute truth" to exist, you need to point to something transcendental, something that can't be explained within this world -- like all fictions, really. And you know what "transcendental concepts" are, right? -- yeah, they are NONSENSE. For example, all religious babble is transcendental -- because it points to "something beyond" -- and is thus impossible for us to talk about because it's something "outside" of this world (whatever that means -- it's not even something we can discuss!). So "absolute truth" -- something "beyond," something "intangible," something we can never point to, something that we can't even FUCKING TALK ABOUT because it's so nonsensical -- is only something that religious people believe in (for obvious reasons -- if you believe in a god or science or whatever the fuck religious people worship, you probably throw "truth" and "universals" and whatever other Platonic democratic fixed moral systems in there just for shits). Just read some fucking Wittgenstein and be done with it already.
Dude I love Wittgenstein's notion of devotion and timelessness(oh wait I'm supposed to play the dumb ass role, whoops!)...It would have been better if you would have quoted what I said but I think I know what you are talking about. Ok I'll bring the questions closer to home. Is there answer to this: Given the right manipulation is it possible for every cell on the human body to be a potential human being? Or try this one. Is Edwards Bernays concept of Manufactured Consent based upon an understanding of how the human mind/consciousness/psychology, neurobiology, psycho-physiology, etc? or since they brain of a fly consist of about 100,000 neurons (approx) are we, as humans causing more suffering to a fly than we are to a two day old human embryo? (if you respond you'll understand my point on my next response)..there are answers to these questions thus constituting as truth. These are all scientific as well so you cannot blame transcendentalism for this one. Also the point to my last post was to prove two things,one that you already mentioned and another that you had no idea about: the first being that we cannot know the answers to every question and the second being that despite our ignorance on certain things, there are answers to those questions, even the one's we will never know.
Next, moving on from this transcendental babble, absolute truth breaks down in another manner. We agree that the world contains many "people" and thus many perspectives since each person, whether dead, alive now, or yet to be born, had/has/will have a COMPLETELY UNIQUE perspective that, from their end, appears completely valid. For example, take someone who is colorblind and sees green as brown. I mean, you can explain the color green to them all you want, but who are you to say that they are "wrong" for saying that it's brown? How do YOU even know that your perception of colors is correct? What if there exists a small set of people who actually perceive colors in finer shade than everyone else (hint: they do exist) and thus what you call "green" is actually light green, lighter green, turquoise, dark green, darker green, etc., but you cannot tell the difference? And what about all other creatures who see the colors in a different (wrong? correct?) way? Seriously, WHAT IS THE TRUTH OF THIS CONUNDRUM? But that's the problem -- there is no truth here. Nothing is "green", and even people who agree that something is "green" are just mapping a term from language onto something that they see in the real world, which naturally ALWAYS involves a loss of information. Try telling someone that you are sad and see how they react -- the feelings that they invoke in their brain when they hear "sad" are FAR DIFFERENT than what you or anyone else invokes.
Very good, concise, straight to the point and wrong(not completely). First off it has already been proven why people are colored blind(blame the rods, cones and genes for not producing the right Trichromacy)...Also weak argument. If the general population is sees brown (w/o being diagnosed with color blindness) and a few people see green (due to color blindness) then there is no way that the color blind persons perception of the object (in terms of light stimuli) is correct, especially when it is reduced to science. Now it is true that everyone's perception of the world is different and this is more on a conscious level, this is to suggest that some people are right and righter and some people are wrong and wronger about there subjective perceptions and this seems to be something you fail to see. For example the question you asked on this post. My perception of it was completely different than yours and Bob's perception is perhaps different than both of ours. But this does not make us equally correct or equally wrong. There is an answer to the question that you asked and the fact that I am free to put in my own interpretation due to my perception of how i saw the question does not make me correct at all. The same goes for you and anyone else who responded to it. But some people would be more correct than others and others will be more incorrect than others. This is exactly what moral relativism advocates as well and I find it completely forlorn and justifiable for unjust actions.... So as far as the color blind individual who sees the world as Grey instead of yellow does not make him correct at all, he just sees the world from a different perspective. Animals hear things that we do not hear but that does not mean that any of us are wrong when it comes to metaphysics, its just a different understanding of the world.
So, to summarize, since "absolute truth" crap can't exist, if we want to construct a "weaker" version of it, for every possible opinion, we would have to get ALL INDIVIDUALS to agree! -- then maybe we can call it truth! And what a stupid task that would be! So instead of thinking in these binary false/true terms, you must think in terms of less correct/more correct (which translates to less powerful/more powerful -- see Nietzsche). So for example, someone with poor vision might report to you that they see "a person" down at the end of the street, but another person with better vision will say that they see a short, bald man with glasses wearing a red shirt and blue jeans, and someone with even better vision will also add that he is wearing Nike shoes, etc. This is the only way to talk about "truth": in terms of degree. Read some of Heraclitus' fragments or just bother to read Nietzsche (actually read him this time, not Wikipedia) where he says the same shit.
I already mentioned this before I even read it so nice try you ALMOST beat me to the idea....
And I mean, look at your fucking bullshit:
hawkins21 wrote:Your logic is completely off. For example, Is it true that they day that JFK got assassinated that birds were flying in the sky? Is it true that the day he got shot that the sun was out? Is it true that JFK had a last thought before he took his last breath? Is it true that people were having the greatest day of their lives the moment JFK was shot?
I wasn't alive then, so as far as I'm concerned, none of it really happened! And try asking all of the people who also weren't alive or who lived in parts of the world where they weren't forcefed boring news from the West. All you are giving me are "strong opinions" for what happened, but even what you say can be picked apart. For example, the one about the sun "being out." I mean, fuck, at ANY TIME OF DAY the sun is "fucking out" somewhere in the world, so what exactly do you mean by being "out"?
But this does not take away from the fact that there are answers to these questions and that's my point. The questions were not meant to be answered and the fact that they cannot be answered does not take away from the truth of the claims(whatever they may be). That's the point I wanted to make. It would not have mattered if you were born then or not. But there are answers to these questions despite our ignorance...and also to jerk you around since since I already had anticipated the answer you were going to give. Instead of admitting that you had no clue you still provided and excuse as to why you could not answer these questions and then tried to insult me. The funny thing is, is that if you would have read what I had wrote in the first place you would have realized that I mentioned that there are answers to these questions.
hawkins21 wrote:I suggest you take a intro to philosophy course and read up on Plato again.
Plato, yeah, MAYBE IF I WAS STILL A CHILD WHO LIKED TO READ FLOWERY BOOKS WITH NO REAL SUBSTANCE. Or I guess that doesn't make sense to you because you haven't read Nietzsche and thus have no clue that he is an ANTI-PLATONIST and would have nothing to do with Plato or his contemptible ideas -- and contemptible they are for throwing philosophy off course for 2500 fucking years!
If you know anything about Nietzsche you would have realized that he admired the Greeks and read much about them, especially Plato.........you really have no Idea how influential Plato is on philosophy and the world in general, despite the fact that most of what they say now can be refuted.
hawkins21 wrote:and I suppose that you do not know much about him based off your statement. If you did then you would not say that freedom does not exist. To say that is to say we have no free-will. what is free about any individual is the "WILL".
YEAH, and I WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN FUCKING READ THE MAN -- if you did, you wouldn't even DARE mention this bullshit about freedom and having "free will" and all this other CHRISTIAN BULLSHIT.
That is funny because Sartre, who was highly influenced by Nietzsche, would say the exact same thing..The essence of existentialism is the fact that we are capable of creating our own lives, developing our own values, we are FREE to do whatever we want.....I take it as Sartre is wrong as well.
YEAH, TO "CHOOSE" THE ONLY LIFE THAT YOU CAN LIVE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER CHOICES.
your other responses were lame but this one caught my eye, what do you mean by this? (just to make sure we are on the same page since you failed to support what you had to same)
hawkins21 wrote:The capacity to realize how profound our moment to moment experiences can be.
this is funny as well, Nietzsche's eternal recurrence advocates paying attention to one's moment to moment experience...
hawkins21 wrote:the capacity to change all future experiences and outcomes.
LOL, YEAH, MY ASS. So we have the ability to change ALL future experiences? So you and I and everyone else has the power to "change the future"? Great thinking there, buddy! You never were great with philosophy, were you?
and yes we can. Our actions now will effect all future outcomes. If we actually pay attention to the flow of experience we can. But despite how rational one is we can change the outcomes of our future experiences. this is so simple that I will not wast my time providing an example. As far as I know I've gotten A's and 1 B(stupid world religions course) in all my philosophy courses and all my professors still remembers me and would recommend me to go to the top schools. But I was never great nor do I have to prove this any further).
hawkins21 wrote:All this is possible because of the WILL, the eternal consciousness that lies within us.
Yeah, because even though I will someday be dead, a "consciousness" will lie "eternally within me." Can you at least FOR ONCE lay off the fucking drugs?
That is not what I am saying....I'm not talking about Braham, nirvana, the dao, etc . Since consciousness is composed of experience and awareness it would have to be limitless otherwise we'd all be dumb. You'd know this if you've meditated....
hawkins21 wrote:You mentioned slave, democrats, women, etc. A women has no control over her gender but this is not a good basis to suggest that she is not free. All because their society locks them up in chains does not mean they are not free.
Or perhaps they aren't free because, REGARDLESS of what society does to them, they CONTINUE to be weak and show no signs of gaining ANY POWER on their own. Look at the so-called "women's rights" (LOL) groups around the world. All of the "power" that they have gained was CEDED to them by the MEN IN POWER, and even with all of this "GREAT, USEFUL, FREE HELP," women still have done NOTHING with it. I'm still waiting for a woman to write something worthwhile in philosophy (HINT: I am NOT holding my breath).
I wont waste my time with this.. I'll allow someone else to tear you a new one.
hawkins21 wrote:Free will blah blah we are free blah blah black people etc.
GREAT, I'll explain this to you too, since you seem to enjoy taking Nietzsche's ideas and interpreting them IN THE EXACT OPPOSITE manner than what he intended!
So when you are born -- actually, while you develop -- you inherit characteristics and traits and fuck knows what else from your parents. Now imagine how you act in response to every stimulus, including the "first" one -- you take all of the information in your mind, all of your opinions, your biases, your inherited traits, etc., and from these you "decide" how to act -- but there IS ONLY one decision! Think of any action you have ever taken in your life. Take yourself back to the time when you took it, and freeze that frame. Inspect your mind, your past, all of the decisions that you made leading up to that moment, and you will see a clear "line" from the beginning of your life up until that moment -- in other words, given everything that came before that moment, there indeed IS ONLY ONE WAY YOU WILL ACT. This is true for EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD -- not just living creatures! -- but as I have stated above about physics, we will never be able to determine the "underlying" model to it all, or else we would be able to predict what people are going to do -- which is ridiculous because, after being shown your "personal roadmap," you could just do the opposite!
There is not only one decision...there may be one correct decision to be made in a specific circumstance but there is not only one decision....I could have chosen not to act in the way that I did...are you sure you've read Nietzsche because what you say sounds very deterministic? Lets tear down this wall...Every possible situation that I was in and every decision that I made could have always been different. Right now I'm on the computer wasting my time with another individual. I could have chosen to go eat, hang out with friends, etc.The fact that I have the freedom to choose what I want to do constitutes as freedom. Can people decide to be robots? absolutely. There are multiple choices we could make in every moment in our lives...we can only choose one but that does not mean that there is only one. What is interesting though is a friend of mines said the exact same thing but instead he came to the conclusion that we are free and you are nowhere near a philosopher otherwise a great mind like you would not be on this post. And of course things are more convoluted then just, hey I'm free....
BUT OF COURSE, since we can't find a model, people like you thus conclude that OH OF COURSE, WE MUST HAVE FREE WILL THEN, when in fact THINGS ARE MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT, but of course it takes a REAL MAN -- a PHILOSOPHER -- to explain all of this shit.
But just ask those fucking scientists and they will probably tell you some other nonsense.
hawkins21 wrote:3. Humanity: Once again your are one forlorn individual and it is people like you that will be impediments to progress.
Yeah, WHAT PROGRESS? Have you and a group of assholes now decided upon the "progress" of "HUMANITY"? If so, I am HONORED to be an impediment to your bullshit!
hawkins21 wrote:Answer me this though, how can you not be concerned with other individuals? If you really are not concerned about other individuals, if you really believe that people are not concerned about you or have an impact on you then why don't you run every red light that there is? Why do you stop at every stop sign? Why do you slow down when you see a police. Why do you not rob every store? Why are you even bothering to have a conversation on this forum? Better yet how are you not connected with other individuals?
THINK, HAWKINS, THINK! It's not that hard! (for me, at least!) So why don't I run red lights/stop signs all the time or "slow down when [I] see a police" (LOL) or rob every store? Simply because, in my OWN INTERESTS, that is, in my course of THINKING ABOUT MYSELF AT ALL TIMES, I realize that driving through these intersections isn't worth the risk of me getting side-slammed by another car and causing me injury or death, and I will only rob a store at the right opportunity. I mean SHIT HAWKINS. Aren't you supposed to be an "ANARCHIST"? One of the naive and very poor arguments against anarchism is that EVERYONE will start committing crimes at EVERY opportunity, which is the same claim you're making against me just because I said I am an egoist! Jesus Christ, man!
no it is because it is not you in your interest to go to jail due to not wanting to harm your fellow man....if you were truly an immoralist then you would not be concerned about anybody and anything, regardless of the consequences..it is not really your own interest that matters, it is the fact that you know that your actions, thoughts and intentions matters and affects everyone else....so once again, put down the facade.
And I'm having a conversation on this forum because I AM ENJOYING MYSELF. Tearing you down is GREAT EXERCISE.
hawkins21 wrote:Blah blah blah some shit about ARGON blah blah
Since we're all connected, why don't you stop being a hypocrite and help EVERYONE in the world, including cannibals in South America and Africa, all murderers and rapists, and suicide bombers? Not that I have anything against these people -- they're an essential part of this world like everyone else -- but considering how NON-NIETZSCHEAN your moral system is, I'm sure that you find these types of people objectionable. So I laugh at your stupid logic and the logic of all humanists, for that matter.
As a matter of fact I do......need details?
hawkins21 wrote:Justice: I will let history answer this one for me. You are defiantly on my list of the top ten ignorant individuals that I have ever had a conversation with. History will answer this question for me. But I will say this-------that is not justice.
And you are "DEFIANTLY" on the TOP OF MY LIST of people WHOSE SKULLS I WANT TO SMASH. Dude, "justice" in the United States (and basically all western countries) is exactly how I described it (AND HOW NIETZSCHE DESCRIBES IT TO THOSE WHO PAY ATTENTION): someone weak is "wronged" (i.e., they had no RIGHT at the time because they lacked MIGHT -- see Stirner) by someone with MIGHT -- i.e., RIGHT -- and thus turns to the STATE to "RIGHT THE WRONG" (LOL) when in FACT NO "WRONG" WAS COMMITTED HERE -- there is actually nothing MORE UNJUST than this! READ SOME FUCKING NIETZSCHE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!
hawkins21 wrote:Democracy is not even a good system...Do not use Democracy to justify your claim
WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DEMOCRACY? HAVE ANY OTHER BULLSHIT YOU WANT TO PUT INTO MY MOUTH? You know, it's SHIT LIKE THIS that reminds me why I can't hold conversations with ILLITERATES. I keep pointing out all of these stupid retardations and poor reading comprehension on your part, and ALL OF YOUR DUMB ARGUMENTS JUST FALL APART, IN FRONT OF EVERYONE READING THESE POSTS.
I suggest reading it over and look for your self, you mentioned it...
hawkins21 wrote:I look for ways to maximize the well-being of conscious creatures since I realize that we are all interconnected to one another.
LOL, YEAH, so you maximize the well-being of bacteria, viruses, flies, maggots, rats, mice, cats, dogs, elephants, rapists, murderers, and best of all, even me! Thank you! I am very appreciative of all of your HARD WORK!
wow I did not know bacteria an viruses are conscious...lol....and there is no hard work to be done here...I'm waiting for you to actually start formulating arguments...otherwise I'm going to keep playing around with with you...
hawkins21 wrote:You are not an immoralist because you would not be on this computer right now(you'd be in jail).
Again with the bullshit. Yeah, because an immoralist is too stupid to figure out how to work around the system!
actually they are...they always get caught.
hawkins21 wrote:You are not creative and will not make progress. No one will follow your philosophy because they realize that the human condition is not about suffering and being miserable.
I'm plenty creative, thanks. And yeah, haha, maybe not any of your RETARDED progress -- because, again, I am not RETARDED -- but I make plenty of progress for myself every day, simply by being alive! Again, more shit that you will never understand.
uh no your not..all you are doing is taking other people's philosophy and using it to support your own conclusions..that is not creative.
So while you are wasting your time concerning yourself with "the human condition" or whatever retarded shit, I am LOLLING at you and all of your stupid kind and living a GREAT LIFE. So yeah -- you wanna wallow in shit, fine, but please keep the flies to yourself!