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i hate to be pedantic, but an idea can't really 'be' communist, although it can of course be favoured by them. this might seem academic, but there's no problem i can see with using ideas previously thought of.

I kindof already am, actually...

Francois Tremblay wrote:Is that a communist idea? I thought all communists were against the accumulation of resources.

You should read some communist literature.

Fine with me.

Francois Tremblay wrote:Is that a communist idea? I thought all communists were against the accumulation of resources.

Well, I don't know if it's a communist idea, but it's certainly my solution.

Is that a communist idea? I thought all communists were against the accumulation of resources.

Francois Tremblay wrote:Yea, it doesn't seem like you guys have any answers. Communism is too abstract.

I think the answers were pretty good. To put it simply, if your accumulation of stuff isn't bothering people or causing problems, than it's probably fine, if it is, then it probably isn't fine.

Yea, it doesn't seem like you guys have any answers. Communism is too abstract.

anyone else getting dizzy?

Your point was that if you collect food for a week, it's not hoarding. But that's irrelevant. Saving for retirement involves orders of magnitude more resources than food for a week.

again, reading would help.

your position revolves around the issue of hoarding, which i addressed semantically above, making the case that it is not the issue that you believe it is.

Fine, but what is the alternative?

huh? no one said we need an alternative to retirement. i said the state/elite intend to eliminate retirement (the work-till-you-die that you speak of), and that an alternative ought to include retirement. maybe it'd help if you read the post before responding.

What's the alternative to retirement? (apart from working until you die, which does not sound great)

"retirement is a temporary idea in western civilization - it's going away." - ben stein

the state and the elite intend for everyone to be completely dependent on them. whatever we replace their decrepit system with, it ought to offer 'retirement' for those elderly who desire it as a permanent idea.

i notice there's semantic difficulties, so how about this...

if i have fresh food in my frig, enough for a week, am i hoarding? afterall, i'm not using each bit of food right away. if i keep some water and some preserved/dried food in case of emergency (living in earthquake country and all), am i hoarding? afterall, the food might go bad before an earthquake ever comes along.

on the other hand, what if i collect all the gasoline from miles around, more than i could use myself for 100 years, just because i want to make sure everyone else doesn't have any and i will be in a position of power in case of shortage (a shortage i might be causing myself) .. isn't that hoarding?

if need is the driving factor, well, we all need food security. we all need energy security. but no one needs a huge mound of goods that they can't - and couldn't ever - really use.

(and, no, this doesn't mean we set up "use councils" or whatever...)