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Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by jack » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:37 pm

thelastindividual wrote:
Guest wrote:R U a capitalist Oar Something?
What the hell? Jack is the most openly communistic member of this board


He's a troll, tovarishch.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by thelastindividual » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:32 am

Guest wrote:R U a capitalist Oar Something?
What the hell? Jack is the most openly communistic member of this board

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:23 am

A) Has a purely pacifist strategy ever worked, let alone overthrow a government?

B) A cop beats the shit out of someone in your community, is smashing some pig's head in "un-anarchist"?

C) Have pacifist "anarchists" ever made an effect anywhere except as part of a much larger movement that accepts the need for a diversity of tactics?

D) Hows that peaceful resistance to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going?



R U a capitalist Oar Something?

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by Yarrow » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:39 am

If I knew it would bring about a world of freedom and understanding (god knows what scenario this could even be), and undoubtedly minimise suffering, hell yeah. i'm not so naive as to think a humans' life is more objectively important merely for it's heritage.

however, this situation would be a one in a billion.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by thelastindividual » Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:12 am

Guest wrote:In anarchism no one will use violence, they will be too scared of the warlords that have risen up. Though they will appreciate the warlords for ending the indecision that direct democracy has brought to every industry.
Oh fuck guys we never thought of THAT before :roll:

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by Zazaban » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:33 pm

Guest wrote:In anarchism no one will use violence, they will be too scared of the warlords that have risen up. Though they will appreciate the warlords for ending the indecision that direct democracy has brought to every industry.

:|

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by Guest » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:59 pm

In anarchism no one will use violence, they will be too scared of the warlords that have risen up. Though they will appreciate the warlords for ending the indecision that direct democracy has brought to every industry.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by jack » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:25 pm

Francois Tremblay wrote:
thelastindividual wrote:
African_Prince wrote:A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).
Can I pose to you for a minute a scenario (An unlikely one perhaps but nevertheless)

If you knew that to bring down capitalism and create an anarchist world based on mutual aid and cooperation you had to kill one man. Just one. Would you do it?


No.


That's why you're going nowhere.

Answer me this pacifags (as opposed to battlefags):

A) Has a purely pacifist strategy ever worked, let alone overthrow a government?

B) A cop beats the shit out of someone in your community, is smashing some pig's head in "un-anarchist"?

C) Have pacifist "anarchists" ever made an effect anywhere except as part of a much larger movement that accepts the need for a diversity of tactics?

D) Hows that peaceful resistance to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going?

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by Francois Tremblay » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:01 pm

thelastindividual wrote:
African_Prince wrote:A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).
Can I pose to you for a minute a scenario (An unlikely one perhaps but nevertheless)

If you knew that to bring down capitalism and create an anarchist world based on mutual aid and cooperation you had to kill one man. Just one. Would you do it?


No.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by thelastindividual » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:58 pm

African_Prince wrote:
thelastindividual wrote:
African_Prince wrote:A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).
Can I pose to you for a minute a scenario (An unlikely one perhaps but nevertheless)

If you knew that to bring down capitalism and create an anarchist world based on mutual aid and cooperation you had to kill one man. Just one. Would you do it?


No. I admit it's a complicaed issue but I'm not a utilitarianist.

Thank goodness this is hypothetical.
OK I can dig that

It probably was a bit backhanded of me to pose such an unlikely hypothetical

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by African_Prince » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:56 pm

thelastindividual wrote:
African_Prince wrote:A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).
Can I pose to you for a minute a scenario (An unlikely one perhaps but nevertheless)

If you knew that to bring down capitalism and create an anarchist world based on mutual aid and cooperation you had to kill one man. Just one. Would you do it?


No. I admit it's a complicaed issue but I'm not a utilitarianist.

Thank goodness this is hypothetical.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by thelastindividual » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:29 am

African_Prince wrote:A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).
Can I pose to you for a minute a scenario (An unlikely one perhaps but nevertheless)

If you knew that to bring down capitalism and create an anarchist world based on mutual aid and cooperation you had to kill one man. Just one. Would you do it?

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by African_Prince » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:05 am

A consistent anarchist would only exercise violence in self-defense (or defense of others).

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by scarydreams » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:36 pm

atheist_anarchist123 wrote:Violence is definitely the answer in some cases but for the most part its not, also you could use violence that doesn't harm many/any people like bomb a police station when there is no one or 1-2 people there, violence doesn't have to hurt others. But for many cases non-violence is perfectly fine. You should never start something with violence but certainly end it with violence. For example you could start a large protest against police, you get into a verbal fight with some pig and its starting to get heated, let him throw the first punch so that you are not infringing on the pigs rights but protecting yours.


actually that's quite well said. violence should always be a last resort, but to suggest that it doesn't have a place in todays society is naive. there are different remedies for every ailment, for some illness'..non-violent revolution just doesn't work.

Re: Violence in anarchism

Post by atheist_anarchist123 » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:02 pm

Violence is definitely the answer in some cases but for the most part its not, also you could use violence that doesn't harm many/any people like bomb a police station when there is no one or 1-2 people there, violence doesn't have to hurt others. But for many cases non-violence is perfectly fine. You should never start something with violence but certainly end it with violence. For example you could start a large protest against police, you get into a verbal fight with some pig and its starting to get heated, let him throw the first punch so that you are not infringing on the pigs rights but protecting yours.

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