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krypto bike locks. uh oh!

Postby zapATIsta » Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:53 pm

Keeping an eye on the corporate media.

Here is a listing (NOT COMPLETE) of news organizations
who are simply reprinting Theo Emery's Associated Press
story about Bic pens opening up Krypto style "tubular
cylinder design" locks.


Arizona Republic
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... cks17.html

Billings Gazette
http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.ph ... 004/09/17/ build/nation/40-lock.inc

Boulder Daily Camera
http://www.bouldernews.com/bdc/county_news/article/ 0,1713,BDC_2423_3188910,00.html

Columbus Ledger Enquirer
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledg ... 684819.htm

Dallas Morning News
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... n/stories/ 091704dnnatpicking.558b4.html

Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/2004/business/04 ... 276387.htm

Evansville Courier & Press
http://www.courierpress.com/ecp/nationa ... s/article/ 0,1626,ECP_753_3188353,00.html

Fort Worth Star Telegram
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/9687758.htm

Herald News dot Com
http://www.zwire.com/site/ news.cfm?newsid=12944096&BRD=1710&PAG=461&dept_id=100735&rfi=6

Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mp ... ss/2799614

Indianapolis Star
http://www.indystar.com/articles/0/179342-1470-223.html

Kansas City Star
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 684274.htm

Lakeland Ledger
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 40917/APA/ 409170535

Lexington Herald Leader
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/ne ... 685740.htm

Miami Herald
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/ne ... 686300.htm

Milwaukee Channel dot Com
http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/news ... etail.html

NBC4 TV
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3736947/detail.html

Newark Star Ledger
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-17/ 109539842284990.xml

N'Orleans Times Picayune
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/national/ ... tional-30/ 1095395953162550.xml&storylist=national

San Jose Mercury News
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercuryn ... 684819.htm

Seattle Times
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/ 2002037964_bikelocks17.html

Springfield News Leader
http://springfield.news-leader.com/busi ... 81104.html

Wichita Eagle
http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/news/nation/9684010.htm

Worcester Telegram & Gazette Corp
(Particularly bad because this is a Boston story.)
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... 40917/APA/ 409170535

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And here goes as much unique original content as I could find out there.


All it takes is a Bic to pick these locks
(Seattle Post Intelligencer)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/191 ... cks17.html

Best Bike Lock Ever Made Just Got Useless.
(Activist Times, Intentional)
http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=10054

Bike lock has an Achilles' heel
(Wisconsin State Journal)
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/i ... 10&ntpid=1

I'll bet the suits at Kryptonite Locks are flipping out over this story
(J-Walk Blog)
http://j-walkblog.com/blog/comments/16674_0_1_0_C/

Hacking the Evolution 2000 bike lock with a Bic pen:
(Engadget dot Com)
http://www.engadget.com/entry/8154041173872584/


Krypto Says They'll Upgrade Your Bike Lock
(Indymedia)
http://mke.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/201749.shtml

Kryptonite's men of steal
(NY Daily News)
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 0096c.html

Lock to pick? Get out your Bic
(Minneapolis Star Tribune)
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4985625.html

Locks a bust, bikers say
(San Francisco Examiner)
http://www.sfexaminer.com/article/index ... 604n_locks

Sheath those Bics, Kryptonite is to offer owners of Evolution
and KryptoLok locks the ability to upgrade their crossbars
(Bike Biz dot Com)
http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4640

U-lock can be picked in under 30 seconds using pen
(Indymedia)
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswi ... 0112.shtml

U-shaped locks not secure
(Minnesota Daily)
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2004/09/17/10246

Widely used bike lock can be picked with a ballpoint pen
(USA Today)
http://www.usatoday.com/money/2004-09-1 ... lock_x.htm


"There was murmuring on various Web sites,
and so I decided to go home and pick up a pen
and see it if works," said Benjamin Running,
a graphic designer who lives in downtown Brooklyn.
"Sure enough, within 30 seconds I had broken into
my $90 lock. I was in awe. My jaw literally dropped
to the floor. It was so easy."

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=66128
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Postby AbyssalBlackGate » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:19 pm

oh my good goat. you realize what this means, dont you? not only bike locks, but any sort of lock which uses a tubular key can be opened with a ballpoint pen. why the fuck didn't i think of this myself? i was once trying to pick a gun cabinet lock that used such a key but never could quite connect the two dots... pen .. lock.

see, most vending machines are locked up using this exact same kind of key. you realize that most modern vending machines contain cash money (bills, not just coins), and are often left outside of buildings overnight, giving criminals like me PERFECT access to them. i shall have a fucking field day with this news.
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Postby huntergatherer » Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:00 am

Keep in mind that many vending machines are owned by the people who own whatever establishment they're in front of, not the corporation itself.
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Postby Isaac » Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:24 pm

no... the vending machines at my school are owned by Coke-a-Cola... if it's an exclusive market (only coke products, or only Pepsi products or only 7up/Dr. Pepper's products), there probably owned by the soda companys...
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Postby AbyssalBlackGate » Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:58 pm

have you ever seen a coke delivery truck go to a vending machine, open it up, take all the money and then refill the sodas? thats because the coke company is selling those sodas and giving a portion of the money to businesses which own the ground on which they get sold.
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Postby Isaac » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:19 pm

I'm going to be able to fix up my bike by november now
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Postby The Black Flag » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:30 pm

Abyssal, have you actually been able to pick the lock of the vending machines. I'm very interested in knowing this. Fuck bikes, I want money motha-fucka, fuck those machines.
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Postby Isaac » Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:35 pm

you don't get it... steal the cash, buy the shit to fix my bike.... like, new rings for the piston...
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Postby AbyssalBlackGate » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:39 pm

The Black Flag wrote:Abyssal, have you actually been able to pick the lock of the vending machines. I'm very interested in knowing this. Fuck bikes, I want money motha-fucka, fuck those machines.


actually i haven't tried it yet, but in all honesty i do intend to. i told some homeys about this little exploit and they also seemed very interested in it, so i'll probably get one of them to take me arround town one of these nights collecting money from the machines.

i shall post my findings here.
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Postby The Black Flag » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:54 pm

AbyssalBlackGate wrote:
The Black Flag wrote:Abyssal, have you actually been able to pick the lock of the vending machines. I'm very interested in knowing this. Fuck bikes, I want money motha-fucka, fuck those machines.


actually i haven't tried it yet, but in all honesty i do intend to. i told some homeys about this little exploit and they also seemed very interested in it, so i'll probably get one of them to take me arround town one of these nights collecting money from the machines.

i shall post my findings here.


Good, good man. If you don't post it here, pm me. But, I know of a way to get those machines to cough up cash, but it's a little more "barbaric" (for lack of a better word): THese people backed up a pick up truck to a machine at a texaco, close to my house, let down the tail gate, tipped the macine over onto the back of the truck, slid it in a little, drove the machine onto the other side of the store, away from cameras, and broke the machine open. sounds like a lot of work, but it works, I suppose.
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Postby |Y| » Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:07 am

ABG, PM me, too, if you don't feel like posting your results here. I'm skeptical, to be honest (I'd think that the bike locks, though they're similar keys, they're cheaply made, too).

I used to have one of those keys for a vending machine. It fit in a lot of vending machines. I used to go to this really out of place coke machine at a college I attended, and sneak a coke or two. It was like out in the middle of a parking lot, it was very weirdly placed. I probably stole a few hundred dollars worth of coke (50 cents a pop) before they moved it. Surprised they didn't catch me, though. But due to its placement, no one could get within 100 yards without me being able to see 'em.
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Postby AbyssalBlackGate » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:49 am

one of my homeboys showed me how to do this thing we call "chaching"ing. if you look inside the part where the coke comes out, you'll see the metal box where they keep the quarters. except the box isn't fully enclosed, you see, so the quarters are nicely accessible using a coathanger. the rest follows logically.

anyway i shall make a general thread about the results of opening the machines using a ballpoint. i intend to do that within the next couple weeks.
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Postby potatoe » Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:02 pm

tried the bic pen in a an old style coke machine (it dispensed bottles, but it wasent one of those new glass front ones.)

the pen was too small by a millimeter or two all around.
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Postby potatoe » Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:04 pm

tried the bic pen in a an old style coke machine (it dispensed bottles, but it wasent one of those new glass front ones.)

the pen was too small by a millimeter or two all around.
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Postby potatoe » Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:05 pm

tried the bic pen in a an old style coke machine (it dispensed bottles, but it wasent one of those new glass front ones.)

the pen was too small by a millimeter or two all around.
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