The White Anti-Racist Is an Oxymoron

[jakk]

Some of the things I'm hearing and reading concerning race issues are getting so ridiculous I'm tempted to not even bother with a comment, if you dont have the common sense...anyway,today, in todays world,most everybody is racist-in some form or fashion,and this extends to all people and is not limited to whites. I'll agree that most anti-racist action by whites is probably ill conceived, but not all. For instance, since I'm white, I personally take offense to skinheads,NA, and other forms or representations of "white identity"that is just racist crap.I dont expect "gratitude" its a personal choice,with risks I've been willing to take.I dont care what anybody thinks about that. Creating an atmosphere where being white makes you always wrong and being anything but white makes you right is the most ridiculous,counterproductive,cointelpro couldnt kill anarchism any better if they tried bullshit that I've seen or heard in a long time.I understand people have issues,and that we can trace a good portion of those issues and problems back to european imperialism(and for all those who need high context nit picky language to understand what I'm saying you wont find it here)but as an anarchist I'm absolutely convinced that had any other culture or race had the guns,germs and steal,we would be facing the same problem,the hand of the fist holding the club just a different color.For all those people who think different, your not anarchists,if you think things would be better if say,south america dominated the imperialist landscape,your just a racist.Of coarse,thats not the case,we have to deal with the present time and space,but neither can we completely extricate ourselves from it,I'm not a racist and thats not to say that this predominately racist structure hasnt affected me,its affected us all-and this twisted,hate-based,victim justification culture taking shape,trying to justify or even call it revolutionary to solve problems by attacking someones race rather than their actions,to claim moral or intellectual superiority because of race,or try and frame it different and say,because your white all of your actions are necessarily racist,or to say since I'm a poc I'm always right if I'm talking to a white, is garbage,guess what;your not always right,being a victim doesnt make you faultless, and if you act like an asshole you'll be treated like one...people will always find reasons to hate,people will always find reasons to say you dont count as person,people will always find reasons to justify treating other people shitty...our greatest mistake is legitimizing it. and BTW, most peoples that have walked this planet have had dreads at one time or another,I agree that liberal fetishizing of tribal cultures is retarded, and its going to take awhile before we completely rid ourselves of the strange creature that is modern liberalism-but my ancesters wore dreads and braids and had all sorts of crazy haircuts before they were "civilized",and I could say its in defiance to what "my" culture has become that I have them-or I could tell you of the crazy old scotsman that sat me down and gave me a history lesson that included dreadlocked and braided scots-but mostly I'd have to say I've had dreads since that day,over 15 years ago and no one should EVER have to justify how they wear their hair,plus I'd kick the dog shit out of anyone that tried-and this whole "black mask" subconcious using black people thing is just STUPID,people have really lost their common sense if they take that esoteric liberal crap seriously

[Nora]

Ah, non-whites. You can never please them. Good thing I have absolutely no desire to.

White readers, take some friendly advice from me and quit throwing water into the ocean. There is nothing you can do to make non-whites happy, except perhaps to cease to exist. It is the worst sort of humiliation to reduce yourself to the embarrassment and hypocrisy of "anti-racism," which by natures serves to empower non-whites in White countries and to reduce your White brothers and sisters to groveling caricatures of their great ancestors.

Join me at www.Stormfront.org. Together, we can set our societies right.

[TanyaB]

"First, one must realize that whiteness is a structure of domination. As such, there is nothing redeemable or reformable about whiteness."

Yowser, you actually do think of us as demons. Don't worry, my disrespectful friend, when White Nationalists come to power, you'll learn a great deal about what is and what is not "redeemable" and "reformable." Just you wait. You can spit on our generosity in allowing anti-white aliens such as yourself to occupy our lands and you can mock our self-hurting tolerance now, but one of these days, enough will be enough, and MY RACE will stand up for itself.

White Pride, World Wide. It's coming, and you're adding to the fire.

[MrFrankenstein]

as someone who was actively part of the multiracial armed struggle against Apartheid, I have to say that the original poster comes across as a good example of what the culture and corporate media in the US is filled with: yapping poodles. And the original poster is a racist. The instant you start defining people by 'race' you've made your decision. Doesn't matter how you dress it up. You're just another American armchair intellectual with hidden anger issues, jabbering away nonsensically instead of knowing what to actually do to cause change.

[Zazaban]

Ah, do we have a couple of ikle-fascisties here? (not you Mr. Frankenstein) Awww. I agree that anti-white reverse racism is nonsense, but it's still preferable to your proto-nazi ('scuse me, not proto), white supremacist nonsense.

[hmm]

Interesting.... I just went back and read through this thread.. It isn't that often that you find a forum with such long-lived threads.

It seems obvious that this thread was moderated/censored, though you can't really tell how heavily or lightly.

And after being moderated, it appears that most of the posts favor white supremacy such as the posts from InsecurityKiller, |Y|, Guest, Nora, and TanyaB.

Which begs two questions: wtf was the thread like before being moderated? and wtf kind of forum is this!?

[Insecuritykiller]

I would just like to say my earlier posts and posts on the page before this are very juvenile sounding. I would phrase them differntly these days. See my new post on the issue. racism: final analysis.

[Crustanarchy]

Get out of here Nazis.

The solution to all your problems with "non-whites" could be solved if you treated everyone as though their race doesn't matter. The vast majority of "non-whites" (that is a fucked up term) are not racist, but will treat you like shit if try and be proud of race like it's something you can choose. I know I react with racial pride when someone attacks me with it. I think it's natural because you can't argue rationally with race so it devolves to knee-jerks.

[Maggot]

I hate Nazis. They're ignorant pieces of shit and they should jump off a cliff and die.

[kikodawgz]

This whole black-nationalist/ethnic-nationalist "white skin privilege" stuff is vomitous, destructive, and atomises even further the already-weak Radical Left.

BNs need to GET OFF IT AND GET BACK ON THE HORSE OF MULTI-RACIAL UNITY BASED ON CLASS.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but anti-racism is not 'black', 'white', yellow green purple or blue. Anti-racism is anti-racism, done done and fucking DONE. You know why? Because anyone that is genuinely anti-racist is genuinely anti-racist. Yes, a wolf CAN be in sheep's clothing, but do you really believe that here? It is not an anti-racist's responsibility to 'prove' his or her anti-racism to you white-privilege nationalistic fucknuts by going the extra mile to feel guilty for whiteness and what that whiteness supposedly "universally" represents! You don't realise just what this nationalist bullshit actually does to our movement — it's more than just words, it's more than just posturing or labelling like a lot of the other stuff differing factions throw at each other. IT AFFECTS OUR WORK. IT DESTROYS OUR WORK. I was personally BANNED by a black-nationalistically-leaning group in New Orleans from going into a black neighborhood to organise because the leaders of that group chose to assume that the black people in that nabe "might feel uncomfortable" with my whiteness. This, after YEARS of not only successfully helping to organise thoroughly, honestly multi-racial radical events in many different parts of the usa, but also actively getting people to JOIN the radical left as long-term members and supporters in pursuit of revolutionary communism, multi-racial unity, anti-racism and a class analysis!!

Those BNs in the New Orleans area had no right to tell me what they told me and neither does the poster of this original thread or anyone else who tries to talk similarly.

I will fight against "white skin privilege theory" until my DYING DAY. I swear to god it makes me wanna vomit all over my keyboard!!!!!