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Ageism.

Postby Y » Tue May 03, 2005 8:48 pm

I think young people have it worse than races, genders, ethnicities, etc, combined. Bias against the youth and their ability trancends all of those things, and is a core problem with current society.

Youthful people are considered undeveloped, without considering the varying degrees of development that is quite possible with them.

And the thing is, I don't think this can be solved very easily. It's a mess. Just considering the child reering aspects of an anarchist society makes ones head spin.

I can discuss it further, if anyone would like.
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Postby tsihcrana laicos » Tue May 03, 2005 8:57 pm

Ageism is definetly bad. I have experienced it a whole lot.

I suppose it depends where you live.
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Postby Guest » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:33 am

Ageism is merely the cry of the half-informed, idiot youth.

Say something intelligent to avoid it.
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Postby tsihcrana laicos » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:35 pm

Well, that was certainly intelligent!
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Postby Torchpen » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:50 am

ageism hits two groups, the old and the young.

one of the most repeated examples i found is how parents obsess about having dominance over their children. some parents just won't give up until they get their child to answer meekly. i haven't been the target of this thankfully but i've seen it happen, and it is a ridiculous form of what is essentially mind-control and brainwashing.
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Postby |Y| » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:16 am

I've been the target of this. To this day, and I'm nearly 29 years old, I still say "ma'am" to women and "sir" to men.

In some ways I appreciate it, because it has made me quite a respectful person. It depresses me when I see children being egotistical little snots, saying some of the dumbest stuff expecting everything.

But the real thing about ageism is that children are considered not "as capable" as adults. They cannot "make decisions" as adults can (somehow, magically, the day between 17 years and 365 days and one day later equates a significant leap in development).

My ex has remarked on several ocassions about how I treat her younger sister and her friend, as if they're capable human beings, "You don't talk to them like kids, it's really sweet." Adults talk down to children. Water things down and make children out to be somewhat less somehow. God, baby talk, just imagine. I've read that baby talk burdens a childs development because it is as if you're trying to teach it two languages at once. The parent talks to the baby in a watered down language, but to other adults in regular language. So the baby has to figure out context, which takes a little longer.

There are lots of scenarios where children are considered "less" than adults. It's a difficult problem.
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Postby Yuda » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:10 pm

Children are egoists that what being a kid is all about
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Postby thinktoday » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:05 pm

I've encountered a few problems with ageism but it's mostly just from people who don't care to listen to what I have to say. I agree with whoever said something about intelligence being the way to avoid ageism in that if you prove you know what you're talking about, you don't have to deal with it. I like being sixteen and I like having the capacity to learn.
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Postby QuietMuse » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:11 pm

if someone is off with me because of my age (im 17)
i normally debate with them intelligently until they get a headache
doesnt take that long normally, and makes them realise how stupid they really are
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