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Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Dealing with ageism, classism, sexism and other marginalizing
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Yarrow » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:41 am

might doesn't make right, if it did this world would BE right. and it's not, or else you wouldn't be here.

other than my familys' survival (damn selfish gene?) i couldn't care less if my race dissappears, everything else will eventually. Immortal Technique reckons whiteness is a temporary abberation; i don't know about that.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Marja » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:02 am

From an aesthetic point of view it does bother me, though I'm not familiar with any "solution" that's worse than the "problem."

Where you have people from different origins, you have an incredible variety of visible expressions of the human form. Of course, these are all very minor differences, skin color, hair type, etc., but they are all visible variations. If, hypothetically, these blend evenly and completely, then you go from several modes with their own variations to one mode with its own variations, and the overall variety does drop. It's basic statistics. It gets more dramatic with features dependent on a single harmless recessive gene.

As an extreme case, suppose we have two equal populations X and Y where all of the alleles in X are A; 1/2 of the alleles in Y are a and 1/2 are A.

The proportion of aa in X = 0

The proportion of aa in Y = 1/4

The proportion of phenotype a in the total = 1/8

Suppose that we have one population Z where 1/4 of the alleles in Z are a and 3/4 are A.

The proportion of aa in Z = 1/16

Even with the same proportion of genes, blending increases the proportion of heterozygous pairs and decreases the proportion of homozygous pairs; this reduces the expression of recessive genes. This can be helpful when it reduces the expression of harmful recessives, and when it increases the expression of heterozygous forms where the heterozygous form is helpful and the homozygous recessive form is harmful (e.g. Sickle-cell anaemia, Tay-Sachs, etc.). There are no known cases where the heterozygous form is harmful and both the homozygous forms are helpful in humanity.

However, I think the loss of the harmless recessive forms would be a tragedy...
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby IK » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:41 pm

But the important thing to do is to just not give a fuck cause you can't do anything.

What you can do is live for now, your life and not worry about bigger and greater things you never should of worried about in the first place. It's only logical to allow human beings to act human. And so, we will be selfish, and stupid. So there is no problem with the world, you just run with it. We are going to do crazy insane things and nobody will stop us. All to entertain ourselves.

Hey, i make a total clown out of myself here, you should know when i come on here i don't care what people think. I'm a dickhead is the pretence, that's how i convince people of things. I take a self-insulting attitude. Maybe thats due to something else other then me wanting to convince people of stuff.

This was my big arguement against politics.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Yarrow » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:37 pm

i remember someone saying the solution was mass fucking, of all creeds and races. eventually we could all be mongrel again, and lose our pedigrees.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby ambi » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:55 pm

i like diversity. it was one of the very few nice aspects of the US. it's still there, but the emphasis on separatism has killed the beauty of it.

of course, that emphasis wasn't an accident...
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Zazaban » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:39 pm

Skin colour ought to be seen the same way we see eye colour.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby birthday pony » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:10 pm

Zazaban wrote:Skin colour ought to be seen the same way we see eye colour.

That'd be nice.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Insecuritykiller » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:50 am

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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Zazaban » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:25 am

Insecuritykiller wrote:
Zazaban wrote:Skin colour ought to be seen the same way we see eye colour.


Well i see skin like eye colour. But maybe i like one colour better then the other. Both are good. Anyway it's not the colour that's important but more the shape of your face. Differn't skins go well with differn't kinds of faces too. I like black skin i mean. It's shiney and looks cool. Black girls faces are good too. Some of them really good. I remember seeing some african girls with really interesting faces. But my favourite girl happens to be white. Not that all girls aren't good. They are better then each other in ways and beautiful each in their own way all speacial, all awesome. All good for life. Life is how you live as much as what you live with. Everything about life matters towards liveing a good life. Everything.


Nothing wrong with that, people may prefer different colours aesthetically, nothing wrong with that. The skin is not the person.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Insecuritykiller » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:11 am

Eh, sorry for all this crap.

I'm going to have a go, to see if i can do it. She's there. I'm here. It's a big strange world. Things are going to happen in a strange way it seems. I want my life so much. I'm going to enjoy it like only i know how. A strange way and no other. Things aren't going to go as hoped, they never can now.

I guess i'm so angry at such a dishonest society. But i know it's all to protect innocence.

Wish me luck. As i wish you luck. We will live happy lives hopefully.

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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Insecuritykiller » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:49 am

WELCOME TO HELL.

I found this site. It's an interesting site. The site while claiming not to be nazis or racists frequently and openly talk about how black people are dumber then white people. But i agree with the sentiment. That we should care about the future of our children. I'm not quite sure if i totally agree with them on everything. They seem to have some bias against the intelligence of black people. I believe black people are totaly good enough and that the science is crap due to events in the past making us who we are today.

I don't know about black people. I'm not black. But i assumed they were just like me.

http://www.eugenics.net/

Personally what i believe is that each race should survive and be proud of its self. Each should live a great life and be happy.

Ahhh but here we come to it, globalisation. Surely races wont be able to stop interaction! As much as i want white people to survive for my own personal white reasons. They wont be able to help themselves. As silly as that sounds. Mmm black and asian ladys. Lets have sex with them in racist ways. Only kidding.

You know i'm totaly for my white girl. But not everyone gets to have her. Not even me. Well i did in some tiny insignificant way. So does everyone else who sees her i bet. I know. There's lovely girls who aren't white. But this girl is just personally magic for me i think she'd be magic for everyone who saw her. I hope she never finds out about me typeing all of this. I doubt that, her finding out that is.

Here's exactly how black people shouldn't act... this is fucked up shit. It's pretty funny to someone sick like me. Though i don't think this is what black people think like is it? I don't think so. I think you think like me. Atleast maybe all this fucked up shit has happened to you. And you need to get over something so you can just love yourself, if you don't already. I mean i assumed black people loved themselves from the beginning. That's what i like to think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It602FknBmk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js6dZJYN-g8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js6dZJYN-g8&feature=related

Personally i just want to believe that people are proud of themselves and that they live unique and beautiful lives.


Negative Conspiracy theorys about racism. Are things really that bad? I don't think so. I mean i grew up thinking this world was a pretty cool place!




SO eugenics vs the future mixed race. Hmmm is that the two sides?
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby ambi » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:30 am

please dont feed the trolls.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Francois Tremblay » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:56 am

Wow.
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Re: Racetraitor and settler something or other...

Postby Insecuritykiller » Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:23 am

eugenics in its extreme racist form fails because it calls for other races to give up their pride. People never give up their pride just like that.

And so i will delete all this bullshit.

The future mixed race it is. And good luck to them. For they will wear on their faces and bodies our good will and love for them. They will not be stained by our hate and guilt when they look into the mirror.

What i wanted was for national communities to run themselves so that each race may survive and all the good traits they have survive. But as i said before maybe it's impossible for us not to interact and live with each other. Infact i'm sure our economys survive on migrant labor.

So may we will our lives to the full.
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