Talk and Action

[Crustanarchy]

Children with children isn't my issue. I'm talking grown human beings (18-25) wanting to please/be pleased by a much more immature and probably confused. I may have talked a lot of shit when I was younger about sex, but if my older teacher starting hitting on me (she was pretty hot) I'd probably freak out.

Also I'd say there's a difference between masturbating for pleasure as a prepubescent and actively seeking or accepting sexual pleasure from the opposite sex (let alone the same sex). When I discovered masturbation I didn't know you could get better pleasure by sticking that hard thang into a vagina. And if someone told me that at my age I'd be a little weirded out.

Let's see how one of you parents feels when someone starts seducing your child. "It's just child love!" If you don't want it being done to your child why would you defend it? I do also think that sex breaks some sort of ignorant innocence children possess.

[Marja]

I can't believe how much effort you guys are putting into arguing with a deluded nut. Go ahead and "love" children, but if you come near anyone related to me or my future child I will hurt you.

Serious facepalm.

How can children consent when they don't even know wtf that is in between their legs. They've never been shown alternative functions, they only know it's where peepee and poopoo come out. How can you get turned on by children anyway... there's this thing called hormones that they can't experience yet till they're the right age (whenever they start displaying attraction toward the opposite sex).

I really REALLY can't see how you would have consensual sex with a child. "Come on just get on top!" "What?"

Mostly agreed. (What's with the heteronormativity?)

Sexual consent requires sexual awareness, as well as equality and, well, maturity. Sexual pleasure is not even evidence of sexual awareness. A lot of kids develop habits which pleasure themselves, without any awareness of or interest in sexuality.

Instinctual sexual awareness usually starts in puberty. However, people hear more about hetero techniques than non-hetero techniques, so the learned aspects can take even longer.

Equality doesn't exist in capitalism, but relationships between adults are closer to equality than relationships between adults and minors.

Maturity can take some time.

Sexuality can be beautiful, or it can be painful and traumatic. I've never had sex, but my closest approaches to it give me recurring nightmares. (I was sexuality assaulted once.) As an anarchist, consent is my watchword, and, in this case, it is even more important. So the requirements of consent are important too.

[Guest]

'Marja' you have my sympathy, however I refuse to believe that loving adult-child sexual relationships are universally negative and that when they are negative it is largely due to societies attitudes towards such relationships. It is also important to note that within anarchism a child will be at least partially emancipated from their parents and not have to rely on them financially.

[Yarrow]

Pussy.

if you're going to proudly spout such radically opposed diatribes, login and show yourself.

within anarchism a child will be at least partially emancipated from their parents and not have to rely on them financially.

really? didn't get that memo.

[Insecuritykiller]

Well the point is that kids are better off waiting until they are older because the sex is better then.

Well, unless some really hot young guy(i'm useing my imagination here) or something, i guess everything is better when you are young. Well maybe it would be ok in an secret evil shameful way.

But generaly your better off waiting until you are older.

[Guest]

sex by eight, or else it's too late.

[Yarrow]

too late for dirty kid fuckers, no doubt.

[Insecuritykiller]

Dirty kid fuckers lol. Seriously you guys are really hateful.

Just say that its ok.

[Noleaders]

'Marja' you have my sympathy, however I refuse to believe that loving adult-child sexual relationships are universally negative and that when they are negative it is largely due to societies attitudes towards such relationships. It is also important to note that within anarchism a child will be at least partially emancipated from their parents and not have to rely on them financially.

Yet so far the argument has basically been vana saying children dont have to consent, adults can do what they like to them, all based on "childhood is an effusion of sexuality". Even if it was it still doesnt grant you the right to sexually assault them and as has been pointed out again and again whatever you people believe most cases of "child love" are rape. Then we have to consider the rationality and maturity of a child. Since children cant have adult responsibilities they cant have adult rights either, its a package deal and freedom is often the path of most resistance.

[libertariansocialist]

I do not think that child/adult relationships are always abusive, or the adult is using their athourity to force the child into consenting for sex. If a sixteen year old girl is attracted to a 25 year old man, then why should they be banned from having sex? It's their life, and certainly not the government's buissness. If its consensual, and the child is old enough to think on their on, then I see no problem in child/adult relationships.

[Noleaders]

Yeah but the thing is these people dont want to give 16 yr olds that right, they want to give it to 8 yr olds and they dont believe in consent either so its more like giving adults the right to abuse than children to consent

[Zazaban]

I wouldn't call a 16 year old a child by any stretch of the imagination.

[Noleaders]

me neither, but i would call an eight year old a child.

[AndyMalroes]

If a sixteen year old girl is attracted to a 25 year old man,

In Australia Thats perfectly legal, as long as the adult doesn't have a professional relationship with the child ie. Doctor, teacher etc.

[Insecuritykiller]

Yeah my sister had one of those relationships, 16 and 30. He used to beat her up.

But we have arrived at where i wanted us to arrive.

I wouldn't call a 16 year old a child by any stretch of the imagination.

me neither, but i would call an eight year old a child.

Well done.