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by **Golbez** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:32 am

Two questions - 1) What of vacation spots? To put another way... when I go to a pretty and relaxing place, like Cancun, I pay a certain amount for a hotel room and for my food. I may go there once in my lifetime. Thus, there are three ways of dealing with a vacation spot: a) I bring something with accepted exchange value and give that in exchange for the food and room and board for my week there. b) I bring nothing, and everything is supplied for me that I need. c) I bring nothing, and nothing is supplied for me because there are no hotels or restaurants for outsiders. Solution A is obviously the solution that involves money, or possibly I could lug enough food on my car to be able to trade enough when I get there. No thanks. Solution B is the solution that means that everyone can get all they need, no matter what. However, this obviously leads to a net-loss in the resort community, because the person will leave after a week of rest and never return to give back what he has taken, so eventually, they will have to resort to... Solution C. Not running any services for outsiders. Is there a fourth solution that I'm missing that can make tourism possible in a socialist environment? 2) A telephone network. Built by one party; maintained by another; and actually used by the population with their phones. So who possesses it? Everyone who contacts it? No one? Only the people who maintain it? Only the people who use it?

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:50 am

it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is: a self-admitted liar. a self-admitted asshole. by his own admission, unable to understand his own posts. by his own admission, someone who sanctions mass murder. the poster in question seems unable to contain his lies, which suggests some sort of pathological condition. most recently, his promise not to engage anonymous posters evaporated after a mere 2.5 hours. it is clear that the poster in question has only one motivation, to antagonize, and is intent on using deception, namecalling, feigned ignorance, and racist hatred to acheive his goal.

by **Golbez** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:09 am

Since this is a post to the board at large, I am not directly engaging any anonymous idiots. They may be free to engage me, but I will not respond. Let the management decide what to do with certain disruptive elements. I am simply asking logical questions about anarchism. The funny thing is, all I could do to fix this is create a new account under a different name and act naive, and thus no longer be harassed. I choose not to be so dishonest in my dealings. (This is an open letter to the board, and not a response to anyone in particular.)

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:17 am

note how the poster "Golbez" now tries to pretend that he is not engaging anonymous posters, which he is indeed doing, despite his own promise not to do so. once again, the subject is a liar. this is to be expected since he has openly admitted to being a liar. note how the subject is already calculating his next next antagonizing move, but is unable to stop blabbering about himself. this is indicitive again of an extreme paranoia/megalomania complex. note how the poster claims he is asking "logical questions" about anarchism as if anyone would believe this after he has has left legacy after legacy of lies, lies, deception, racism, lies, sanctions of mass murder, antagonism, and more lies. in short, since this poster is a self-admitted liar, nothing he says can be believed, especially not his (extrememly late) claim that he is interested in honest debate.

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:29 am

hey anon you forgot to "note" that this guy now feels like he can give out orders, thinks ___he___ is the one being harrassed, and has the gall to say he isn't dishonest when hes addmitted that he is!

by **DirkRamrod** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:20 am

Dunno about everyone else, but you're starting to be a tad annoying. If you want to bait Golbez, register and do it privately. Please?

by **Morpheus** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:24 pm

I think Golbez is more annoying.

by **cre8anarchy** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:20 pm

I gotta solution for ya, STAY AT HOME!

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:44 pm

if you wish to ignore the anonymous posts, or "golbez"'s posts, or anyone else's posts, no one is stopping you. if you have a factual or logical refutation, it is welcome. also, [insert some joke about 'master baiter']

by **Golbez** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:44 pm

[color=green]I gotta solution for ya, STAY AT HOME! This is an impossible proposition. People will travel. Even if we rule out ANY vacationing whatsoever, there may be some communities that have so many visitors, for one reason or another, that they experience a net loss in resources. Compare it to your house. If you have one friend over once in a while, you're not losing. If you have several friends over all the time, and you give them all the same courtesy and resources, eventually you're going to end up giving it all to the new people - or, you place a limit on it and cease being the sharing folks you are. Or, if these people keep coming over, charge them rent for the room and call it a hotel.

by **Guest** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:50 pm

it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is: a self-admitted liar. a self-admitted asshole. someone who claims his own posts do not make sense to him. a capitalist and a zionist. the subject has repeayedly lied and has admitted that he is a liar. the subject's intention is to antagonize by use of lies and support of mass murder, as he has openly admitted. note how the subject attempts to continue his dead-end discussion (i.e. provocation) by replying to a post which is obviously not trying to continue the discussion. nothing the sbject says can be taken seriously, as he has openly admitted that he is a liar. YMMV, but it's doubtful.

by **Morpheus** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:32 pm

[color=blue] it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is: a self-admitted liar. a self-admitted asshole. Where did he admit to being an asshole? I know he admitted to being an idiot.

by **Golbez** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:04 pm

[color=green]Where did he admit to being an asshole? I know he admitted to being an idiot. Oddasudda said to me at what point, "Now you're just being an asshole," and I responded, "You're right." It was due to posts like that (and the one he was responding to) that I made the "An Apology" post.

by **oddasudda** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:37 pm

Anon, if you dislike Golbez' posts, allow me to assure you that your spamming is much more annoying and disruptive than anything he has done or could do. I'll reply to this thread as soon as I get some time to do so.

by **Guest** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 9:23 pm

note how the poster "golbez" fails to provide a refutation that he is a self-admitted liar. note how the poster feels that he can use the forum as his emotional toilet as long as he offers an apology. note how the subject repeats this pattern over and over again.

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