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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Sun Jan 26, 2003 9:25 pm

no one if forcing you to read my or nyone else's posts. <br> <br>as far as 'spam' is concerned, i am not promoting anything. how is it spam compared to, say, games of battleship? <br> <br>i am simply pointing out what golbez has himself said over and over again.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Man » Mon Jan 27, 2003 12:51 am

Games of battleships are not flooded across multiple forums. That's how it isn't spam. <br> <br>You are right though. No-one's forcing us to acknowledge or read your posts. Fair enough. It's the same with Golbez. You are also making him out to be some kind of fixed character. People change.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby andrewflood » Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:50 am

Let us start by noting that Cancun is a hell hole for those who work there, both for those who build the hotels and those who work in the tourist sector afterwards. Step 1 of the anarchist revolution there would probably be a discussion about what to do with all those miles of concrete. I'm sure some of it would continue to function in a resort manner by it would be damn different from what you get down there now gringo. <br> <br>Apart from that where do you think Cancun gets all it goods from now? They sure aren't 'local' in the sense of coming from the town. <br> <br>So here is the answer <br> <br>Today Cancun exists because it earns money which enables it to import stuff which enable it to earn money <br> <br>After the revolution the people of Cancun might decide to keep going in the tourist industry. If so then they will be providing a useful service and so entitled to import the goods needed to keep that service going. Then, unlike now though, they would get to have accommodation at the level of the tourist hotels and access to similar levels of food etc. <br> <br>http://anarchism.ws
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Golbez » Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:30 am

[color=green]After the revolution the people of Cancun might decide to keep going in the tourist industry. If so then they will be providing a useful service and so entitled to import the goods needed to keep that service going. Then, unlike now though, they would get to have accommodation at the level of the tourist hotels and access to similar levels of food etc. </font color=green> <br> <br>"Entitled" to import? Even from people who have no interest in seeing Cancun get tourists? The current system lets people CHOOSE to export their dollars and resources to Cancun. Whether or not Cancun provides a useful service is up to the people who patronize it. The way this is put, it sounds like Cancun is entitled import from Mexico City, even if no one from Mexico City ever vacations in Cancun. <br> <br>This form of entitlement doesn't seem a good way to handle such areas.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:40 am

Give the "Golbez" a rest will you? <br> <br>Even if his question is actually an insinuated criticism of anarchism, it's still a legitimate question to ask, and us anarchists should try to answer it.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Golbez » Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:51 am

A criticism, yes - But a genuine question to see if, as I said, perhaps I missed Situation D, or some other variant of the first three. <br> <br>Basically, it's a criticism that ends with the question, "Am I wrong?"
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:57 pm

"People change" <br> <br>please point any any areas where the poster in question has changed or learned anything. his position is capitalism -- the antithesis of anarchism. has that changed even one iota? <br> <br>the discussions brought up by this poster are the same questions dressed up differently over and over again. what if i go on vacation? what about my restaurant!? etc, etc. <br> <br>no one is stopping you from answering him, and i will continue to point out that the poster in question is a self-admitted liar who has come here for the sole purpose of antagonization.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:02 pm

it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is a self-admitted liar and ardent supporter of capitalism and has admitted publicly that he sanctions mass murder. <br> <br>it has also become clear that he is a racist and that his racial hatred frames his questions and 'debate.' <br> <br>the poster in question simply dresses the same question up over and over again in a feeble attempt at finding holes in anarchist theiry, rather than attacking the philosophy in an honest way, but this is of course to be expected as one cannot support zionism and capitalism without the use of lies. <br> <br>YMMV, but it's doubtful.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:12 pm

"Even if his question is actually an insinuated criticism of anarchism, it's still a legitimate question to ask, and us anarchists should try to answer it. " <br> <br>criticisms of anarchism are welcome by me and by (i assume) the forum as a whole. you will note that i have nothing to say to/about posters like nugatory and benkilpatrick because they have chosen to inquire with some honesty. it's clear that their purpose is discussion, while it is clear that the purpose of the poster in question is disruption. furthermore, anyone who uses the forum as his personal emotional toilet ought to be called on it, regardless of their politics. <br> <br>it is simple enough to ignore the posts of capitalists. the problem with the poster in question is that in many threads you will find his response first, as he is obviously addicted in some irrational way to this forum. when someone asks a question here, why should the first response be from a fucking capitalist? the poster in question was called on this behavior and made promises to limit himself to his own threads of discussions of capitalism only, which, of course, he broke. <br> <br>it would be nice to be able to reccomend this forum to other anarchists, but if they get here and find only capitalists and israeli shills populating the forums and screaming and lying and deceiving and flushing their emotions down our throats, it isn't really a place for anarchists to discuss things.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Morpheus » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:14 pm

Yeah, but her/his spamming is mostly just disruptive to Golbez's trolling (like this thread, for example). That's not a bad thing. Perhaps if s/he keeps it up Golbez will finally leave.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:39 pm

it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is a self-admitted liar and a self-admitted advocate of mass murder. <br> <br>his purpose on this forum is to antagonize. one of the ways he does this is by a contintual string of "what if's" not unlike a 4-year-old child's endless string of unlistening "why's".
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Golbez » Mon Jan 27, 2003 3:46 pm

[color=green]Yeah, but her/his spamming is mostly just disruptive to Golbez's trolling (like this thread, for example). That's not a bad thing. Perhaps if s/he keeps it up Golbez will finally leave. </font color=green> <br> <br>I expected better from you, Morpheus. Then again, I used to from Kevehs, too. This thread is a genuine question for a topic that doesn't seem to have been addressed at all - in essence, perhaps I'm HELPING you all out by giving you scenarios that haven't been fully pondered.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby stinkbomb » Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:13 pm

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr><p>I expected better from you, Morpheus. Then again, I used to from Kevehs, too.<p><hr></blockquote> <br> <br>That's a shitty thing to say Golbez. I think you should withdraw that comment and apologise to the forum again. For the first time ever I am complaining to a board moderator about that. Bad shit man! <br> <br><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr><p> This thread is a genuine question for a topic that doesn't seem to have been addressed at all - in essence, perhaps I'm HELPING you all out by giving you scenarios that haven't been fully pondered.<p><hr></blockquote> <br> <br>Golbez just like the rest of us you post nothing original. <br> <br> <br> <br>
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:16 pm

it should be noted that the poster "Golbez" is a self-admitted liar and a self-admitted asshole who sanctions mass murder. <br> <br>note how the subject attempts to communicate his "helpful" nature, not unlike the cop beating you over the head. <br> <br>note how he expects to have his statement that this is a "genuine topic" taken seriously while having openly admitted that he is a liar. <br> <br>note the pride he takes in having driven off his competitor (in his own twisted mind) kevehs. <br> <br>this is the kind of behavior that can be expected forom advocates of capitalism and mass murder, since only by deception can they hope to feel any sense of power; a sense which has been disrupted to the point that the subject feels the irrational and unrepressable need to continue to antagonize as many people as possible on this forum.
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Re: Vacation and phones

Postby Guest » Mon Jan 27, 2003 4:31 pm

how many fake apologies do we have to hear?
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