Oh
my, how amusing!
AbolishAnarchism wrote:By removing the “boss,” and replacing him with every single other worker in the business, ‘anarchism’ would create exploitation and tyranny that would be unprecedented.
Keywords:
Boss;
Worker;
Business1) A removal of the "boss" does not then follow that the "boss" must necessarily then be
replaced. I try not to make assumptions, but I will make one to suggest you read about syndicalism, anarcho or otherwise; perhaps even about the earlier Israeli kibbutzim.
2) The concept of "worker", "working", "work", is established following a man or woman being alienated, or perhaps even misleaded, from a normal and necessary aspect of our lives. One does not necessarily find tending to their own gardens to grow food, as "work", just as someone does not find eating those vegetables "work". Eating is just as much a part of our lives as would be obtaining or cultivating the food we choose to consume. I usually find the concept of "work" itself to be irrational; as in, when you "work" you are not "living", in a metaphorical sense. "Work" is reviled by most people, and rightly so, as it is robs us of our time and effort to attend to our own lives by our own hands. When one is faced with the decision to survive, the concept of "work" or "working" is entirely irrelevent. I would say also that survival becomes much easier the more friends and lovers one makes through uncoerced, free association.
3) The fact that you would even consider the very idea that a free and open tool of the community would be considered a "business" is absurd; there is simply no room for a profit motive (as I'm sure you'll vehemently disagree).
Your very life would be subject to some group of rank amateurs, no matter how clueless they are on how to run a business. The bigger the business, the more they would bicker and fight all day. Workers would be difficult for the sake of being difficult. They would make terrible decisions you would be forced to follow, even if you disagreed strongly with them. There would have to be eventual submission or nothing would get done. Tears of anger and resentment would stream from your eyes as you watch the life savings you poured into the “cooperative” travel straight down the shitter at lightning speed.
Clueless rank amateurs, eh? I am faint of breath...
Why should my life be subject to
anything that I do not choose to impose on myself? Tell me, what should I be
forced into exactly? I can safely say you're not one in support of taxation. And please, do not suggest an answer religious in nature.
Numerous examples of terrible decisions are made everyday by "managers" and "workers" alike, regardless of whether or not you live within a capitalist economy. If you sincerely suggest that hierarchical structures are run efficiently and, dare I say, ethically, I would not even bother trying to argue a counterpoint.
You seem to think that those who work the equipment within a factory couldn't run it without a whip.
You seem to think that administrative tasks couldn't be democratically accomplished through an elective process; or even by
::gasp::, helping people become wiser by doing it themselves! The audacity!
Life savings?
Whose? Yours?
The vast majority have none;
and the majority of that majority are in debt.
Take your money and leave;
go invest in your favorite illusion: the stock market.
Workers will not be able to be hired or fired. Unlike an experienced entrepreneur who knows what he is doing, they will constantly make bad decisions, and bad decisions WITH YOUR MONEY, at that. Unlike under a capitalist, you will be piss-broke when the bankruptcy occurs. You will have absolutely no other choice. There will be no other option whatsoever. Such is the idiocy of anarchism.
Again. Money?
What exactly do you think it takes to make, say, a pair of shoes?
Nothing other than raw materials and people. Neither of which cost "money". In the world of a capitalist, money pollutes not only our physical environment, but also the mental environment. A few of the greatest cons humanity has fallen into is the frivolous concept of "money" and "private property" which are artificial conceptions that exist nowhere except within the boundaries that those same concepts perpetuate. Only then, does raw material necessitate price; which I might add, is determined by exactly whom?
These are the choices anarchism gives: Either entrust your life and money to group of inexperienced dummies who will make sure it goes to waste, or starve in the streets.
Oh come now... those are hardly the choices.
Everybody would have to answer to unreliable class clowns and apathetic no-shows. Capitalism beautifully weeds out the useless and incompetent. Anarchism puts a collar around your neck and hands them the leash.
I'm literally laughing.
Anarchists
putting a
collar on
anything is quite a humorous and rather ironic choice of imagery.
There is no system more exploitive or cruel than anarchism. I will tell you right now that I would refuse to participate in this idiocy. You will have to force me at gunpoint when the “big day” comes--force me to be “free.” I will not do anything against my own will.
Anarchism is not a system.
"Anarchism" does not exist except as an abstract perspective;
Anarchists, however, do in fact exist. And some quite happily too!
But the anarchists object. “You will keep all of your labor’s value!” Of course, without a successful business, you will not be getting one red cent, so it will be irrelevant. Without any alternative to having untold amounts of workers and governments..oops.. “committees” tell you what to do and how to live, you would be enslaved.
Bottom up I say. Bottom up.
These types of statements are boring.
Come up with something substantial.
Isn’t it about time we abolished the brutal system of exploitation called anarchism?
Please, anarchists barely even know how to use guns yet.
And the ones who do are horrible shots.
Go to a library and read more Rothbard.
Come back anytime when your reactionary muttering means something.
