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Re: Hostility

Postby prometheus » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:30 pm

stonesolid wrote:EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!! you are ALL creating rules for others, and if it was up to you guys, america would end up worse than where it is!!
1) anarchy is NOT about peace and love-those are rules and ergo government. anti-anarchy
2)ur obviously for mccain if not obama, and vice-versa, therefore supporting government. anti-anarchy.

u guys are just a bunch of posers who have no balls to actually do anything about government. ANTI-ANARCHY!!!!!! dont EVER call urselves anarchists.



This post has a lot of merit between the insults. How can anyone who supports taxes, or any kind of laws be an anarchist? Taxes and laws require enforcement, enforcement at any level (save shunning, which I haven't seen put forward here) requires a governing body and hence rulers.
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Re: Hostility

Postby libertariansocialist » Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:15 pm

The death penalty and imprisonment does not work.

Rehabilitation does


If a person is charged with committing crimes against humanity, then how could they deserve something less then death? You say Rehabilitation is the answer, well in an anarchist society, who's going to fund the rehabilitation. Not the tax payer, for there are no taxes.
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Re: Hostility

Postby thelastindividual » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:19 am

libertariansocialist wrote:
The death penalty and imprisonment does not work.

Rehabilitation does


If a person is charged with committing crimes against humanity, then how could they deserve something less then death? You say Rehabilitation is the answer, well in an anarchist society, who's going to fund the rehabilitation. Not the tax payer, for there are no taxes.
If someone has already commited a serious crime like mass murder what will killing them do except leave you with one more dead body on your hands. I'm with gandhi on this one "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind"
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Re: Hostility

Postby Noleaders » Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:17 pm

If someone has already commited a serious crime like mass murder what will killing them do except leave you with one more dead body on your hands.


Make it pretty difficult for them to re-offend?

I'm with gandhi on this one "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind"


More importantly what do you do when someones taken three eyes?
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Re: Hostility

Postby thelastindividual » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:08 pm

First let's clarify something, where would you personally draw the line at using capital punishment? how many dead would you say constitutes capital punishment? would you hand out capital punishment for crimes such as rape even if no-one was killed?
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Re: Hostility

Postby Noleaders » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:52 pm

I wouldnt neccessarily, its not something ive thought about much. But you've gotta remember each association will have different ways of settling things.
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Re: Hostility

Postby thelastindividual » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:09 am

Noleaders wrote:I wouldnt neccessarily, its not something ive thought about much. But you've gotta remember each association will have different ways of settling things.
You've got me there :P
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Re: Hostility

Postby Noleaders » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:08 pm

To be honest i dont see it as a problem though, i mean people are gonna want compensation over revenge in 99 out of 100 cases.
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Re: Hostility

Postby Francois Tremblay » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:03 pm

thelastindividual wrote:First let's clarify something, where would you personally draw the line at using capital punishment?


Capital punishment is murder, you doof.
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Re: Hostility

Postby Yarrow » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:45 am

i can so envision people kidnapping criminals to save them from the mob, and rehabilitating them.
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Re: Hostility

Postby jack » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:53 pm

IMHO, since rape is a crime that can never be done accidentally, is always done with the opposition of the victim, and rapists and paedophiles have been shown they can't be rehabilitated. Once you commit rape, you give up your right to life.
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Re: Hostility

Postby Yarrow » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:38 am

you certainly give up your right to rights. but then, rights are a tricky subject. Radical perchance, but I think we should all just do what we want. :roll:
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