Freemasonry and anarchism

[Crustanarchy]

I'm a blood relative of Richard Stockton, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, on my mom's side. Dunno if he was a free-mason, but I'm sure FZ would disagree.

[Zazaban]

I lol'd. This is one of the most creative and delusional trolls I've seen, on ANY forum.

I take it you haven't seen Mystery Warrior over at anarchism.net (I know what you're thinking, and the fascist front is anarchy.net)

[frankzappa]

Thanks again for your comments. The intention of these posts is not to offend or upset but to try and get to the truth through reasoned debate. Quotations are usefull as they provide some form of evidence one way or another. All criticisms and comments are welcomed as a means of provoking debate. Mindless insults are much less usefull.

There is masses of information regarding the masonic nature of hip-hop culture. Please see below for links of some of the better videos posted to Utube.

You never questioned why so many black gangsters refer to each other as ‘G’, when every masonic lodge has a prominently displayed 'G' within the square and compass. The information is in your face. As far as I am concerened these hip hoppers may as well be jumping around in lederhosen and 'seig heiling'.

The history of gangsterism and its practices is thoroughly masonic dating back way before the myth of Robin Hood (robe and hood) and his band of merry men (including ‘little john’ that user of whores). Every area of public life has been dominated by masonry as far as it can be traced back. Masons have always controlled the ‘above world’ (finance, commerce, politics, industry, education, entertainment etc) as they have the ‘below world’ (criminal underworld – pimping, extortion, political movements drug dealing etc) henceforth the mantra ‘As above – so below’

Hip-Hop/Rap Hijacked by Freemasons
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LSjMNTPh6EA
Blk Celeb Exposed
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMGjFYqH ... 6C&index=5
Blk Masonic Celebrities-Pt 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_9carHO6i ... 6C&index=3
Blk Masonic-3/The Finale
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DREa8beT_ ... 6C&index=4
The Boule
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ay7JnnG3 ... 6C&index=6
Hip Hop and the Occult: p6 G-UNIT!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=taXkZkZCd ... re=related
Hip Hop and the Occult: p13 Eminem Again
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jgMBDW- ... re=related
Lots of other videos posted by old krypton (some better than others)
http://uk.youtube.com/user/OldKrypton

There are no doubts regarding the masonic nature of anarchist symbolism (especially the jolly rodger)

"Lower rnother-son lodges use this flag (the jolly roger), folded into a coffin-shape to simulate
death. An initiate is 'raised from amongst the dead' by the Grand Master. The latter, using his
right hand, forms a semiclosed fist over his own chest. This is the Lion's Paw. He reaches down
and extends this 'paw' to the candidate. He is entitled to retract the 'paw' if dissatisfied with the
candidate's signal of request for help. This flag was the battle-flag of the fleet of Knights Templar.
When driven 'underground' by the King of France, they became commonly known as Pirates, a
typically composite word. Pira is Pyra, as in the Greek 'fire' such as pyramid. Pirates set fire to all
ships (including it' s crew and passengers) after stealing their cargoes. Pi is also the geometrical
symbol dedicated to Pythagorus. Using, Iike the ancient Egyptians, animal names depicting their
function, they called themselves 'jolly Jack-Tars' on the exoteric level, referring to the pitch used to
seal ship's planks. Tar is Rat reversed. Jack is short for their 'martyred' Grand Master Jacques de
Molay, better known in gang-land as Jake the mole. A rat is a rodent. Another strain of rats, the
Knights Hospitallers ended up controlling rhodes....... Pyr-eight. In masonry, 8 is the no. for power
and money. Pirates loved pieces-of-eight. We must forget childhood story-versions of knights in
arrnour and swash-buckling pirates. We must look deep into ' the mystery religion.'"
(P12, A glimpse into the great work, Alan Watt, available from Alan Watt, www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com)

Use of the Jolly Rodger Flag in Russia, can be clearly pictured carried by anarchist
contingent in the centre of a photo of a workers demonstration in St Petersburg, in July 1917. (p79
Memoirs of a British agent, RH Bruce Lockhart, Folio Society 2003) This is the ealiest use I can
find of the "Jolly Rodger" flag by anarchists. I would be grateful if anyone could inform me if they have
found evidence of it in earlier use.

Given the aforementioned references regarding the nature of both anarchisms leadership and
its symbolism there appears to be no viable defence prepared to step forward regarding anarchisms
dubious duplicity with freemasonry. Yet anarchists would be the first to lynch those who would
don the swastika, little realising thier own symbolism is in equally poor taste.

The british mason, RH Bruce Lockhart (close friend of Crowley, Kropotkin (described by RHBL as 'that fine old anarchist') and Kerensky) wrote of Trotskys purge of anarchism during the period of March and April 1918. Far from shunning material wealth and banditry -
"The anarchists had appropriated the finest houses in Moscow. On the Povarskaya, where the rich
merchants lived, we entered house after house. The filth was indescribable....The dead still lay where
they had fallen.....In the luxurious drawing room of the House Gracheva the anarchists had been
surprised in the middle of an orgy. The long table which had supported the feast had been overturned,
and broken plates, glasses, champagne bottles, made unsavory islands in a pool of blood and wine.
On the floor lay a young woman, face downwards. Peters turned her over. Her hair was dishevelled.
She had been shot through the neck, and the blood had congealed in a sinister purple clump. She
could not have been more than twenty. Peters shrugged his shoulders. 'Prostituka', he said. Perhaps it is for the best (p187 "Memoirs of a British agent, RH Bruce Lockhart, Folio Society 2003)

[Crustanarchy]

Gangsters call each other "G" cause it means "Gangster", the evidence is in front of your face. You're making stupid connections. And I believe the thing that caused the behavior of young black males and many young Hispanic males in dense cityscapes is poverty and the way our society is. I don't see how Freemasonry is important at all, what's important is that these people are getting all drugged up on coke and killing people. Masonic symbols aren't causing them to do that. It's poverty because these males grow up in neighborhoods where gangs are rampant are. Do you know how much money some of these kids make selling crack or whatever? A fucking lot, so I can see why it's an attraction to poor males in the cities.

Why are you worrying about what symbols we're using? Shouldn't it matter MORE to you that the U.S. Government uses what you would consider masonic symbols on it's currency? Or wherever else? Why does it matter to you that anarchists use "masonic" symbols while having absolutely nothing in common when it comes to ideas and principle.

I still want to know what Jubal Troglodyte Freemasonry is. I looked up Troglodyte, it means cave-men or a genus of small bird.

[frankzappa]

Thanks for your comment. I will post more on Jubal Troglodyte Freemasonry and gangsterism though I would recomend you contact Alan Watt and purchase his books from www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com there are also hundreds of hours of free talks for download and some amazing information.

Regarding some of the earleir points made. Bakunins freemasonry is well documented down to his registration at the below mentioned lodge.
Mikhail Bakunin, Russian revolutionary, Lodge Il Progresso Sociale, Florence 1864
(Bakunin and the Italians, T. R.Ravindranathan,, McGill-Queen's University Press, 1988)

His hobnobing with prominent Italian masons of the time is also well documented, they even call themselves a brotherhood.

“The Italian anarchist movement virtually begins with Bakunins arrival.
I have shown already how in Florence Bakunin finally abandoned his early pan-Slavism and adopted anarchism as his revolutionary doctrine; as a consequence, the birth of anarchism in Italy co-incided with the birth of the international anarchist movement in its rudimentary prototype, the Florentine Brotherhood. I have also told what little is known of that short-lived organization, and I have described its successor, the International Brotherhood, as an event in Bakunin’s life and in the international development of anarchism. Here I shall discuss the International Brotherhood in so far as it can be regarded as an Italian movement.
In the constitutional documents drawn up by Bakunin and his immediate associates, the Italian section of the brotherhood was variously called La Societa per la Rivoluzione Democratica Sociale and La Societa dei Legionari della Rivoluzione Sociale Italiana. There is no reason to suppose that these were separate organizations; Bakunins passion for high sounding titles is enough to explain the duplication. The high command of the society seems to have co-incided roughly with Bakunins central committee of the international brotherhood in Naples. Several members of this caucus of initiated militants were later to play considerable parts in anarchist history. Giuseppe Fanelli, a veteran of 1848, was actually a deputy of the Italian parliament, but he fell so far under Bakunin’s spell that later he went on a strange but successful mission to convert the Spanish masses to anarchism. Saverio Friscia, a Sicilian homoepathic physician, was also a member of the Chamber of deputies, but more important to the international brotherhood as a thirty-third degree Freemason with great influence with the lodges of southern Italy. Carlo Gambuzzi, a Neapolitan lawyer, was to become a close personal friend Bakunin and the Lover of his wife Antonia, as well as remaining for many years as active leader of the Italian anarchist movement.
The last important member of this early elite was Alberto Tucci, another young Neapolitan lawyer.
Footnote: Bakunin himself, like Proudhon, was a freemason; a study has yet to be made of the links between Continental Freemasonry and the early anarchist movement” (P277, Anarchism: A History of Libertarian Ideas and Movement, George Woodcock, Broadview Press, 2004)

Also regarding Proudhon

“All governments were alike to Proudhon, dangerous institutions, but the new one need not be any worse than the last. Let Louis Napoleon give proof that he was with the Revolution and his ambition, his broken oath, and the blood of December would be forgiven him. That proof above all, lay in his religious policy. Proudhon was now a most determined anti-clerical. In 1847 he had replied to the ritual question asked of him when he was admitted as a Freemason. 'What does man owe to God?' by the startling answer 'War'; but not until the combination of the Church with the conservatives in 1848, did he resolve on war to the death against the clerical party”.
(Proudhon Henri du Bac. The Un-Marxian Socialist: A Study of Proudhon . New York: Sheed and Ward, 1848. p. 9.
The text is from Denis William Brogan (1934), Proudhon, London: H. Hamilton.)

Also.

“Proudhon used the symbol of ‘the Beehive’ to conceptualise his vision of what was later to develop into Syndicalism, although according to some sources this is a secret code relating to a pyramidal scale of adepts controlled by one all-seeing eye or brain at the top, i.e. like a queen bee” (see The Battle of the Trees by Renee Henry, Freedom House, 1995, Nesta H. Webster’s classic Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, Christian Book Club of America, 1924, and also The Revolt Against Civilisation by Christina Lothrop Stoddard, 1923). http://www.rosenoire.org/articles/weishaupt.php

Hardly ‘secret code’, the bee-hive is a standard Masonic reference to an ideal state of organisation of society (complete loss of individuality, and individuals bred for their purpose (work)). It is also expressed as the ideal model for the working life of a Masonic lodge.
Kropotkin wrote in his memoirs of meeting in the early spring of 1872 at the Masonic Temple Unique in Zurich.
As a researcher of freemasonry I cannot ignore the strange references Kropotkin makes to that well know Masonic murderer Jack the Ripper, Kropotkin actually attempts to humanize Jack the Ripper.

Taken from Kropotkins - Anarchism its philosophy and ideal
“Besides, has not experience demonstrated quite recently that Jack the Ripper performed his exploits under the eye of the London police---a most active force---and that he only left off killing when the population of Whitechapel itself began to give chase to him? And in our everyday relations with our fellow citizens, do you think that it is really judges, jailers, and police that hinder anti-social acts from multiplying? The judge, ever ferocious, because he is a maniac of law, the accuser, the informer, the police spy, all those interlopers that live from hand to mouth around the law courts, do they not scatter demoralization far and wide into society? Read the trials, glance behind the scenes, push your analysis further than the exterior fa‡ade of law courts, and you will come out sickened.”

Taken from Kropotkins - Anarchist Morality
“Today when we see a Jack the Ripper Murder one after another of some of the most poorest and miserable women, our first feeling is one of hatred.
If we had met him the day when he murdered that women who asked him to pay for her slum lodging, we should have put a bullet through his head, without reflecting that the bullet might have been better bestowed in the brain of the owner of that wretched den.”

It is a well known fact that freemasons took a very serious blow with the publication of Steven Knights Jack the Ripper – the Final Solution. It details how all the murders were committed according to Masonic ritual. Some of the ideas from this book were later made into a film starring Johny Depp “From Hell”.

There are two quotes here regarding Musolinis prosciption of freemasonry in the 20's. There are more in the full speech. Gramsci does not state his real concern - the anarcho communist masons being kicked out. It is also very telling he states that fascism will easily come to a compromise with freemasonry and not the other way round.

Gramsci 1925 Speech to the Italian parliament
Delivered: 16 May 1925;
Source: Gramsci Antonio, Contro la legge sulle associazioni segrete, 1997, Manifestolibri;
GRAMSCI: This law will not manage to slow down the movement which you yourselves are preparing in the country. Since freemasonry will enter the fascist party en masse and will form a tendency within it, it is clear that with this law you hope to impede the development of large worker and peasant organizations. That is the real value, the real meaning of the law.
GRAMSCI: The reality then is that the law against freemasonry is not principally against freemasonry; in the end fascism will easily come to a compromise with freemasonry.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci ... speech.htm

[AndyMalroes]

1st. Even if Bakunin was a free mason (which I highly doubt) why would he be against authority seeing as the masons have a hierarchical structure. This then severs the supposed link between the masons and his theories. If you were an anarchist and now you're some racist who thinks the world is secretly run by the masons does that make this theory in any way anarchistic NO!

2nd. The reason prostitutes go back is not because of the pay but the prison in their mind created by years of abuse. This abuse makes them feel that they somehow deserve to be raped by rich men who can't get laid or have weird sexual fantasies that are abusive and they can play out with young girls who's job it is to get raped. Screw masonry, the real problem in the world is the socio-economic problems that create the fetishes and the brothels

[frankzappa]

Many thanks for your comments. I do not appreciate being labeled as somehow anarchist or a racist.
Your second point first.

2nd. The reason prostitutes go back is not because of the pay but the prison in their mind created by years of abuse.

We all have prisons in our minds created by years of abuse of one form or another. One could say the same of a heroin addict, a victim of torture, or a peadophile. The victim abuser cycle is well documented, understood and utilized by the elite. Those who are the biggest victims of abuse have always been used by those on high (freemasonry) to commit some of the worst atrocities.

This abuse makes them feel that they somehow deserve to be raped by rich men who can't get laid or have weird sexual fantasies that are abusive and they can play out with young girls who's job it is to get raped.

It is simply untrue to suggest the primary users of prostitutes are rich men. As I have stated more and more women are becoming involved and the price is going down. In the inner cities of England, depending on several factors, age, experience, negotiation, cunning. Hand sex $10 Oral sex $10-$30 Vaginal sex $20-50 Anal sex $more expensive. Obviously, the price increases without contraception. Prostitution is everywhere in England. In the UK you can barely buy a packet of cigarettes for $10.

This is not rape. To call this rape can only be an insult to those who have been raped. This is the consensual practice of selling sex.

In the east again, you have clearly not done your homework as the primary users are the ordinary working class men. Though it is true that the organization of prostitution is a lot more militaristic (Masonic) in the East there is also a far higher degree of complicity of parents selling their children (the abuser victim cycle again).

Screw masonry, the real problem in the world is the socio-economic problems that create the fetishes and the brothels

The battle for each individual can only be fought out by the individual no matter how much others may wish to help. By stating it is a ‘socio-economic’ issue you not only give an excuse for its legitimization, you also make the issue a lot more complicated for those who may wish to break out of it and repent.

To suggest there is no economic motivation for prostitution is madness. The econonomic motivation has been so ruthlessly sold to women as a defence of prostitution, it is the eternal lie – the eternal offer of something for nothing.

“A 22-year-old American student auctioning her virginity online to pay for her college tuition looks set to cash-in after attracting bids in excess of £2.5 million. The San Diego student, who is using the pseudonym Natalie Dylan, is selling herself through the website of the Moonlite Bunny Ranch, a large brothel located in the state of Nevada.

The Daily Telegraph reports that Natalie hit upon the idea to auction her virginity after her sister Avia paid for her own degree by working as a prostitute for three weeks.
Miss Dylan’s unlikely auction first hit the headlines in September 2008. At that point, she had received bids of up to 243,000 US dollars (approx £165,000), more than enough to cover the cost of the Masters degree in Family and Marriage therapy she is planning to take.
Natalie appeared on shock jock Howard Stern’s radio show to publicise the auction and bids rocketed as a result. Ninemsn reports the student has since received more than 10,000 pledges and the highest bid, made by an unnamed Australian businessman, stands at a staggering 3.8 US dollars (approximately £2.58 million).

According to The Scotsman, American advocates for family values have condemned Natalie’s actions. However, the student insisted that her auction is simply borne out of her financial need and is not a marketing stunt”
http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article ... d=12737694

It is clear the motivation to this whore is two-fold (easy money and promoting whoredom). Truly, the mind boggles. She wants to study marriage therapy and is a graduate of women’s studies. Surely the only analogy which does this disgust justice is that of a paedophile advising on child protection.

Daniel Defoe perhaps spoke most eloquently on the subject in: The fortunes and misfortunes of the most famous Moll Flanders. Chapter 6

“In the meantime, as I was but too sure of the fact, I lived therefore in open avowed incest and whoredom, and all under the appearance of an honest wife; and though I was not much touched with the crime of it, yet the action had something in it shocking to nature, and made my husband, as he thought himself, even nauseous to me.
However, upon the most sedate consideration, I resolved that it was absolutely necessary to conceal it all and not make the least discovery of it either to mother or husband; and thus I lived with the greatest pressure imaginable for three years more, but had no more children.
During this time my mother used to be frequently telling me old stories of her former adventures, which, however, were no ways pleasant to me; for by it, though she did not tell it me in plain terms, yet I could easily understand, joined with what I had heard myself, of my first tutors, that in her younger days she had been both whore and thief; but I verily believed she had lived to repent sincerely of both, and that she was then a very pious, sober, and religious woman.
Well, let her life have been what it would then, it was certain that my life was very uneasy to me; for I lived, as I have said, but in the worst sort of whoredom, and as I could expect no good of it, so really no good issue came of it, and all my seeming prosperity wore off, and ended in misery and destruction. It was some time, indeed, before it came to this, for, but I know not by what ill fate guided, everything went wrong with us afterwards, and that which was worse, my husband grew strangely altered, forward, jealous, and unkind, and I was as impatient of bearing his carriage, as the carriage was unreasonable” and unjust. These things proceeded so far, that we came at last to be in such ill terms with one another, that I claimed a promise of him, which he entered willingly into with me when I consented to come from England with him, viz. that if I found the country not to agree with me, or that I did not like to live there, I should come away to England again when I pleased, giving him a year's warning to settle his affairs".

[frankzappa]

1st point 2nd.

Even if Bakunin was a free mason (which I highly doubt) why would he be against authority seeing as the masons have a hierarchical structure.

To state the opinion Bakunin was no mason without substantiation is just that - opinion based on no facts and in contradiction to the published evidence. Are we to suppose the fascists fabricated the records of anarchist lodge membership and mason sponsored pro-pagan-da? Who is talking about secrecy now?

Masonry has many different wings and factions in operation within its own organization some operate in competition, and some in collusion. At the top they are always united. They lead each shade of politics from left wing and right wing - anarchist to fascism. The Brotherhood is in the business of building up political movements to create false sides, then once the masses have chosen sides leading them over the edge of a cliff into further tyranny.

From George Orwells writing on 'the brotherhood' in 1984.

“'And the conspiracy -- the organization? Is it real? It is not simply an invention of the Thought Police?'

'No, it is real. The Brotherhood, we call it. You will never learn much more about the Brotherhood than that it exists and that you belong to it. I will come back to that presently.' He looked at his wrist-watch. 'It is unwise even for members of the Inner Party to turn off the telescreen for more than half an hour. You ought not to have come here together, and you will have to leave separately. You, comrade' -- he bowed his head to Julia -- 'will leave first. We have about twenty minutes at our disposal. You will understand that I must start by asking you certain questions. In general terms, what are you prepared to do?'

'Anything that we are capable of,' said Winston.

O'Brien had turned himself a little in his chair so that he was facing Winston. He almost ignored Julia, seeming to take it for granted that Winston could speak for her. For a moment the lids flitted down over his eyes. He began asking his questions in a low, expressionless voice, as though this were a routine, a sort of catechism, most of whose answers were known to him already.

'You are prepared to give your lives?'

'Yes.'

'You are prepared to commit murder?'

'Yes.'

'To commit acts of sabotage which may cause the death of hundreds of innocent people?'

'Yes.'

'To betray your country to foreign powers?'

'Yes.'

'You are prepared to cheat, to forge, to blackmail, to corrupt the minds of children, to distribute habit-forming drugs, to encourage prostitution, to disseminate venereal diseases -- to do anything which is likely to cause demoralization and weaken the power of the Party?'

'Yes.'

'If, for example, it would somehow serve our interests to throw sulphuric acid in a child's face -- are you prepared to do that?'

'Yes.'

'You are prepared to lose your identity and live out the rest of your life as a waiter or a dock-worker?'

'Yes.'

'You are prepared to commit suicide, if and when we order you to do so?'

'Yes.'

'You are prepared, the two of you, to separate and never see one another again?'

'No!' broke in Julia.

It appeared to Winston that a long time passed before he answered. For a moment he seemed even to have been deprived of the power of speech. His tongue worked soundlessly, forming the opening syllables first of one word, then of the other, over and over again. Until he had said it, he did not know which word he was going to say. 'No,' he said finally.

'You did well to tell me,' said O'Brien. 'It is necessary for us to know everything.'

He turned himself toward Julia and added in a voice with somewhat more expression in it:

'Do you understand that even if he survives, it may be as a different person? We may be obliged to give him a new identity. His face, his movements, the shape of his hands, the colour of his hair -- even his voice would be different. And you yourself might have become a different person. Our surgeons can alter people beyond recognition. Sometimes it is necessary. Sometimes we even amputate a limb.'

Winston could not help snatching another sidelong glance at Martin's Mongolian face. There were no scars that he could see. Julia had turned a shade paler, so that her freckles were showing, but she faced O'Brien boldly. She murmured something that seemed to be assent”.

This then severs the supposed link between the masons and his theories.

The leftwing revolutionaries have always been an integral part of freemasonry in order to create the conditions for ever greater tyranies to exist and consolidate.

If you were an anarchist and now you're some racist who thinks the world is secretly run by the masons does that make this theory in any way anarchistic NO!

According to your reasoning - the published and referenced anarchists / bolshevists associations with freemasonry are a fascist conspiracy. I am not racist. I wouldn’t claim anything for anarchism other than what I have already stated, anarchism is utterly redundant, and has never been of any real relevance.

[AndyMalroes]

If you don't realize your being racist that's even worse,

"When most with a pair of eyes can tell that the culture the minorities have embraced (pimping, drug dealing, paedophilia and gangsterism)"

If you believe this is a true generalization of minorities (which is how I read it, sorry if I've missed the point) then you are being (subconciously?) racist.

I'm sorry if I said something about you being an anarchist, must have been another thread.

You seem to have missed my point, unlike Marxism and Leninism we (anarchists) don't take everything that the "thinkers" say as holy text. When I was talking about Bakunin I was trying to get across that anarchism is an ever evolving thing with the anarchists making new theories all the time, and unless you are trying to tell me that every anarchist is a mason your point has no relativity 130 years after someone dies.

[frankzappa]

Many thanks for your comments. You have taken half of my sentence, and interpreted it out of context, more to follow on Bakunin - freemasonry dominates every political group, whether its ideas are changing or not. The brotherhood are the ones who give you the ideas to change your thoughts and perceptions.

"They are unequivocal regarding defending black and asian youth when most with a pair of eyes can tell the culture the minorities have embraced (pimping, drug dealing, peadophilia and gangsterism) has been created by the establishment and encouraged to prosper."

The point is that the hip-hop culture which has ravaged so much of the black culture and communities (with its unbridled promotion of almost every vice imaginable) will either provoke a 'fascist backlash' or will 'rise to the top'. In either case, both sides are false and without merit, and the masses will be led into tyranny once more. Gangsters (black/white/any colour) can so easily be made into heros who will be worshipped by the masses.

Taken from (p77 – p79, Pirates – evil on the high seas, The world’s most evil men, Neil Blandford and Bruce Jones, Hamlyn publishing group, 1995).

“The venetian ambassador to London, Giovanni Scaramelli, wrote to his city’s Doge and senate in 1603: ”How just is the hatred which all peoples bear to the English, for they are the disturbers of the whole world. The whole strength and repute of the nation rests on a vast number of corsairs. To such a state has this unhappy Kingdom come, that from a lofty religion has fallen into the abyss of infidelity.”

"Scaramelli was writing home in dismay at the realization that a mighty nation had granted a licence to criminals to guard its furthest colonial frontiers and boost its revenues. The criminals called themselves corsairs, privateers, buccaneers or, grandly, ‘the brethren of the coast’. In reality, they were no more than pirates. In the service of the English Crown, carrying no-questions-asked commissions, they were seaborne merchants of death and destruction".

"Since the early 16th century, deserters, felons and shipwrecked smugglers had been abandoned to their fate on the coasts of the caribean islands, namely Cuba, Jamaica and Hispaniola. They had lived off wild pigs, the meat of which they cured by smoking in long strips over wood-and-dung fires. The dried meat was known as boucan and the wild men of the islands were termed boucaniers”.

This last paragraph is full of errors and distortion. It is well known the early exiled pirates of the 16th century were the exiled French templars (masons). Can is the frequently used term to signify a canine or vampiric nature (as in canine tooth, cannibal or cain of cain and abel fame). It is also a word the brotherhood use to signify a type of priest.
Bou is the word you shout when you jump out and surprise someone. More importantly, Bou means ‘to build’ in Aricaans (to build is a standard Masonic reference), in Catalans it means ‘Ox or cattle’ - Masons believe it is thier job to savage the herd or flock.

Perhaps even more importantly
“Bou is a commune in the Loiret department in north-central France. Loiret is one of the original 83 departments that was created during the French Revolution on March 4, 1790. It was created from the former province of Orléanais”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bou

This region was one of the strongholds of Masonry, the place where – ‘the Temple of the Prieure de Sion’ was based, and from which the templars were exiled. Also notice below, all the early Pirates names are French.

That most simple philosophical countenance of ‘you are what you eat’ can surely give some insight to the templars mentality. Pork cured with shit.

“Through trade with passing ships, they acquired an arsenal of weapons, which they used to good effect in raids on the ill-defended colonial outposts – mainly Spanish – then being established throughout the islands. They drank a fearsome mixture of Rum and gunpowder, wore trousers of uncured rawhide and shirts stained with pigs blood. They must have smelt revolting and looked like savages. They certainly struck fear into the hearts of the Spaniards…..with good reason".

"In the first half of the seventeenth century, these buccaneers took to the sea. They stole boats or fashioned canoes from hollowed out tree trunks and sailed out of coves to attack Spanish shipping. The buccaneers would maneuver outside of the line of fire of the Spanish guns then race in under close constant covering fire and clamber aboard the sterns of the great galleons. Captured ships would be looted and occasionally impounded into the service of the attackers. The age of the pirate was born".

"With names like Roche Braziliano, Red Legs Greaves, Piere Le Grand and Montbars the Exterminator, they harried Spains treasure fleets and repeatedly sacked her outposts in the Central America isthmus, torturing the inhabitants without mercy until they have revealed their hidden hoards. Most feared among them was a Breton captain, Francis Lolonois.
At the head of an army of 700 men, Lolonois razed Maracaibo to the ground and rampaged through what is now Nicaragua, lining Spanish prisoners before him and slaughtering them a dozen at a time for the sheer fun of it. According to one chronicler, Lolonois once ‘grew outrageously passionate in so much that he drew his cutlass, slashed open the heart of a poor Spaniard and, pulling it out began to gnaw it, saying to the rest that he would serve them all alike if they did not talk. Among his other delights, Lolonois would cut a man to pieces, first some flesh, then a hand, an arm, a leg, sometimes tying a cord about his head and with a stick twisting it till his eyes shoot out, which is called woolding. Lolonois met a fittingly unpleasant fate himself, being torn limb from limb by Indians”.

These are the hero’s you pay tribute to in hoisting the Jolly Rodger - Masonic savages. Anarchists need to wake up.

“The Ease with which the buccaneers were able to relieve the Spanish of the gold they had themselves stolen from the natives of central and south America ushered in a new, and if anything, bloodier age of piracy. For under the guise of a crusade against popery, Britain entered the arena and effectively gave its citizens a free hand in ravaging, robbing and persecuting neighbouring colonies with whom they were not even at war. These sea going criminals were issued with commissions which were no more licences to kill.
Foremost amongst them was Henry Morgn, a farmers son born in Llanrhymney, Glamorgan. He may have been transported, he may have been an indentured servant or he may have arrived in 1655 with Oliver Cromwells army. In 1663 his uncle Sir Edward Morgan, was appointed Deputy Governor-General of Jamaica and, although there is no evidence, it is likely that this valuable family connection helped the young Welshman launch his piratical career. For Jamaica’s Government house was the principal source of the buccaneers commission, handed out freely under the guise of guarding the colony against Spanish invasion. In return for the commissions, the governor, the notoriously corrupt planter Sir Thomas Modyford, and his deputy received their own commission – a share in the pirate plunder”.

The idea of the criminal ‘backhander’ to the bosses that turn a blind eye has always been key to Masonic gangsterism. Those gangsters that rise to the top are always those that are in bed with THE SYSTEM.

More on black gangsterism on you-tube, well worth a watch:

Breaking the Oath! PT1 of 2:(read info) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxmw7zZqEVY
Breaking the Oath! PT2 of 2:(read info) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjPe2sNm ... re=related

[frankzappa]

An excellent video
The Oath/The Witch Doctor!!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAelq78n ... re=related

[AndyMalroes]

You still do not get it do you? First you haven't grasped the concept that a movement evolves. This is shown when you point out the origin of buccaneers as masons, who cares what the first believed. My point still stands that unless the majority of anarchists are Masons this argument is pointless.

just pointing to a link and saying "look evidence" doesn't mean anything. This way of arguing is pointless as I might Argue about the existance of aliens, I could then point to say... a scientologist website Where it will give "conclusive" evidence of the existance of aliens with no evidence to back it up.

We (sometimes) fly the jolly roger as a sign of anti-authoritarianism. Some pirates may have obtained a letter of marque from a nation but who the hell cares. There was even a book written about a pirate anarchist commune called Libertia (Might just be mythical) but at least I add if my sources are in doubt.

Evidence of human existance only goes back as far as 40,000BC give or take 10,000 years due to poor methods. This means that masonry must have started before they had bricks. Why would they be free masons while not being masons.

[frankzappa]

Thankyou for your comments. I hope that you will be able to rephrase your second and third paragraphs as, as they appear they appear at the moment they are very confused.
You are saying, all my references are akin to promoting scientology and alien conspiracys.
I have referenced over 35 articles and information sources and also, I have as much as possible used mainstream and largely indisputable sources. What annoys you is my method of cross referencing my statements to evidence and research, in order to provide truth to what I am claiming.

You condemn me for this in the second paragraph as though trying to provide evidence was a crime against humanity. But in the third paragraph you claim strength to the ‘anarchist pirate’ fantasy from the publication of the book:

Libertia (Might just be mythical) but at least I add if my sources are in doubt.

While I can only thank you for bringing this information to the table, I would hope you are aware of the entirely self contradictory nature of the way you have done this. That you would deny my right to use references but at the same time allow your own surely gives an indication of where you are coming from – lynchmob mentality. Your source (as you have provided only one) most sincerely is in doubt.

The anarchists fly the Jolly Rodger flag (and all their other symbols) in the same way an infant may use a swearword or ‘give the finger’ to a passer by. They have never been taught what it means and therefore, cannot understand the offensive and disturbing connotations it gives the passer by. It might give pleasure to the infant but it certainly does not to the passer by. The infant may think it is being rebellious but it simply does not know any better. The skull and cross bones, has always been the symbol for death, rebirth and Masonic initiation. This symbolization is embedded deep in the public’s consciousness. In the Tarot it symbolizes death, more specifically ‘the death of Kings’. Can you see where anarchism comes in to this picture yet? Again, I say wake up from your slumber anarchists.

I have never claimed all anarchists were masons. They are the dupes of masons, meaning they are being led down a blind alley and always have been. Not just by their leaders and over-zealous followers, but by the process which has been designed to create and change the ideas of political movements. If you want to understand how the evolution of ideas in radical political movements has been manufactured, I greatly recommend Alan Watts most recent broadcasts. There you will find evidence that even, the great anti-authoritarian leaders like Frank Zappa were in fact part of this Masonic ‘culture creation’ industry.

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

You may find this information stuffy and somewhat boring, and there are hours of it. But unfortunately, there are no Mcdonald’s type answers which can be bought and consumed and understood within a few seconds to the question you are asking here.

Many thanks for your comments regarding the origins of freemasonry, as I have already stated I will be addressing this in a later post after I have posted more information on Bakunin.

[blacklotus]

If an infant ever gave me the finger, that would certainly make my day.

[K=x'uksami]

What the hell is this guy talking about? I have seen plenty of crazy conspiracy theorists, but I must say this notion of of Masonic hip-hop is new to me. And doesn't he realize that 60,000 years ago, there were no stone buildings (at least that I know of) and thus no concept of masonry? Why is it that the far right seems so full of these bizarre theories, of Masonic gangsters and reptilian Jews taking over the world and that?