Freemasonry and anarchism

[frankzappa]

I believe the two men who described Anarchism best were Alfredo Bonnano and Alan Moore, the former defining it as a 'tension', and the latter as 'romance'. I generally agree with that assessment. Standing alone, anarchism isn't a political ideology, but rather, a general concept, a foundation upon which one can build an ideology. A tension one feels towards a life of quality and the act of engaging in an openly loving, liberated and romantic embrace of life, along with a cruel, and intolerant struggle against anything or anyone that would abridge one's freedom.

That's how I define anarchism, and I don't take it any father than that. What this thinker or that, established as an ideological castle based on their concept of anarchism, is theirs alone, and isn't really of consequence to me. I take what bits and pieces from the works of numerous philosophers of various stripe, and add to my own ideas, and with my own ideas, add to those bits and pieces I acknowledge, and perhaps integrate into my own fancy, mosaic-walled castle of self.

Get back to Kindergarden with your flowery views of anarchism. You are dictated by your own fancy and your own idea of freedom is some deranged public orgy. As freemasonry is consolidating the final stages of world domination and a literal hell on Earth is ensuing you wish to ‘integrate into your own fancy, mosaic-walled castle of self ?’

To repeat

"You are not talking to someone who has never spent time amongst the left/anarchist movement, those who have know what a bloody joke it is and how dominated by idiots it is.

No matter what noble image anarchists may like to delude themselves with, it has been nothing more than a lifestyle politic for the last 60 years or so. In other words it is harmless. It is largely a social club for misfits and miscreants. In this system it makes about as much difference as what brand of cigarette you smoke as which Ideology one would wish to affiliate to. At the top right and left are united, and the words coming out of their mouths are of no relevance as the venom of snakes is under their tongues. We line up behind leaders, there is no point in anarchists pretending anarchism is not beset with the cult of (psychopathic) hero worship, as is every religion. In anarchism these so called heros are its theorists, its agitators, and cultural icons (musicians/writers/commentators). They don’t just operate at a high level but within your community. In agreeing with their opinions we consent - they market lies to you."

Name one ideology which has not been guided by masonry.

Does it matter?

Is the pope a catholic?

Does it matter if your ideas are a figment of some freemason’s imagination?

If it does, and yet;

The problem is that what is presented to the gullable masses as a viable alternative to the status quo has always been dominated by freemasonry of one form or another - end of story. Yes that means we are terribly fucked in terms of a viable alternative to what might offer a way out of the hell on earth which is rapidly approaching.

Then like you're said, we're fucked. You, at least, are certainly in your own mind, quite fucked!

At least I realise it, and that is the first step. We are all going to hell and all you appear to be interested in is having a party, and posting that utterly abhorrent picture of a snail – how old are you?

Can't speak for the rest of these jolly folk, but I've got too much life to live to obsess over that which I can't do anything about. Since you don't, and are, why don't you get Project Mayhem rolling already?

You are entirely too jolly. Have fun in lala land and enjoy your party while humanity goes down the plug hole, self centred little fuckwit you are.

And both advocate a merely mechanical revolution, not a true revolution, to cast off one government and saddle us yet with another, which in fact would be the same thing. I tell you, I'm sure glad I've been led astray, if in fact I have, rather than in circles.

You wouldn’t have a clue what either advocate as you are obviously still in your teens and both were speaking the truth while you were still watching ‘teenage mutant ninja snails’.

You have been led astray but you didn’t get any further than playing with yourself, and cultivating your pathetic snail persona.

Fighting the good fight on behalf of who, I wonder? Or, rather, being distracted and likewise distracting as you've been instructed to. You're a fool of a fish on a hook without any bait.

Fighting the good fight on behalf of myself, so that I don’t spend the afterlife in purgatory.

If I ever get the chance, I'm dedicating a green paint-filled waterballoon to Alex Jones in your name. I do live in Austin, after all!

Yeah, you tell that pompous, greedy, ever-fattening, blowhard of a con artist, the fuckin' Snail's gonna get his ass. Bork, Bork! Barrrgh!

We are quaking in our boots.

[The Barking Snail]

Fun stuff.

Get back to Kindergarden with your flowery views of anarchism.

That's a pretty dry corn cob you've got wedged up your ass there, you great crook-backed, cock-eyed woolly homunculus.

There is one underlying current within anarchism, regardless of how anarchism manifests as ideology, and it is the only truth of anarchism. It is anarchism at its core, a tension which each and every one of us-and not merely those of us who identify ourselves as anarchists-feels, from the moment we are first moved by our desires to resist force and control, until they day of our death, whether that death be a physical death, or that of a broken spirit or shattered mind. This tension is inherent in the species, and it can be seen in spirit of every babe born to woman-that is, of course, before it has been corrected.

You are dictated by your own fancy and your own idea of freedom is some deranged public orgy.

Not fancy, but passion. Not whimsy, but lust. It is a lust to be free, to live and love as I desire, and to wage an all out war against oppression and control. It is the most potent of desires which moves me to act.

Yet, better to be ruled by fancy than by fear.

What's wrong with public group sex acts, by the way? What's wrong with two people engaging in intercourse in public? Why is sex something that two (or more) individuals something they should only enjoy behind closed doors? Or, in your case, alone in front of your monitor?

*Hums a little Cole Porter* ..Birds to it, bees do it.. Even educated fleas do it..

As freemasonry is consolidating the final stages of world domination and a literal hell on Earth is ensuing you wish to ‘I take what bits and pieces from the works of numerous philosophers of various stripe, and add to my own ideas, and with my own ideas, add to those bits and pieces I acknowledge, and perhaps integrate into my own fancy, mosaic-walled castle of self.’?

That's right. I'm just going to go on continuing to educate myself, and working on this eclectic ideology of mine.

To repeat

"You are not talking to someone who has never spent time amongst the left/anarchist movement, those who have know what a bloody joke it is and how dominated by idiots it is.

I'm giving a shit. My colon churns as I type.

it has been nothing more than a lifestyle politic for the last 60 years or so.

A lifestyle for some, a way of life for others.

In other words it is harmless.

I suppose you've never once considered that this whole trip you're on, the Zeitgeist movement, and so on, isn't some COINTELPRO propaganda effort meant to lead you astray and render you ineffectual? Let's face it, you guys aren't accomplishing shit. Though, maybe I'm wrong, as Alex Jones does seem to be getting more bloated by the minute. I'll give you that much, and just that much-you can stuff graft down a pig's throat.

It is largely a social club for misfits and miscreants.

That describes Jones' clique, and most of the Zeitgeist movement, quite adequately. You don't need to look much deeper than the asinine ranting in prisonplanet.com's reader's comments to see that. To say nothing of the actual forums.

"Bat Shit Crazy" seems an approriate term for those cretins.

At the top right and left are united, and the words coming out of their mouths are of no relevance as the venom of snakes is under their tongues.

No argument there.

We line up behind leaders.

Perhaps you do.

there is no point in anarchists pretending anarchism is not beset with the cult of (psychopathic) hero worship, as is every religion.

Not going to disagree. Hell, I'll point you towards an example: freedomainradio.com. For a monetary donation of $500 or more (I believe that's the fee, plus $50/mo), you too can have "Philosopher King" jpeg image associated with your forum account! Huzzah!

In anarchism these so called heros are its theorists

I can't say that I have any heroes, other than Bob.

its agitators

I once saw some kid dressed up to match the image of a Zapatista for Halloween.

and cultural icons (musicians/writers/commentators).

Catharsis and Wolfi Landstreicher pwn.

They don’t just operate at a high level but within your community. In agreeing with their opinions we consent - they market lies to you."

Of course, the same is not true of *your* leaders, your theorists, agitators, cultural icons. Alex Jones isn't a salesman! He just uses that Monster Truck rally commercial vocal styling to get his point across.

Is the pope a catholic?

Is a catholic, catholic? I don't know if the pope is catholic, or not.

Does it matter if your ideas are a figment of some freemason’s imagination?

Do you surmise that there's anything is this world that isn't?

The problem is that what is presented to the gullable masses as a viable alternative to the status quo has always been dominated by freemasonry of one form or another

Except the one you've chosen.

end of story.

At this point, I'd have comitted suicide.

Yes that means we are terribly fucked in terms of a viable alternative..

I'll cope, I'm sure.

At least I realise it, and that is the first step.

Eleven more to go.

We are all going to hell and all you appear to be interested in is having a party...

What can I say? I'm a Prince fan.

and posting that utterly abhorrent picture of a snail..

Oh! Dreaful! What an "utterly abhorrent picture of a snail!" You remind me of Bruno's little pre-exile lover, the prissy asian flight attendant, I swear.

how old are you?

How old do you want me to be? </Jodie Foster>

You are entirely too jolly.

Where's my milk and cookies, bitch?

Have fun in lala land and enjoy your party while humanity goes down the plug hole

Baby Plucky sez: "Hunnanity go down the hooole!"

You wouldn’t have a clue what either advocate as you are obviously still in your teens and both were speaking the truth while you were still watching ‘teenage mutant ninja snails’.

That's the Samurai Slugs, nitwit. Didn't you watch Tiny Toons?

Let's watch that cult-like hero worship now, mister.

and cultivating your pathetic snail persona.

And a variety of peppers. Specifically habero, serrano, pequin, and ancho.

Fighting the good fight on behalf of myself, so that I don’t spend the afterlife in purgatory.

I never much got into the club scene in Dallas. What's Purgatory like, anyway?

What afterlife?

We are quaking in our boots.

Obviously, fear features quite prominently in your day-to-day.

I got more snail images. Wanna see? Wanna? In any case, I've had my fun. Best of luck to you, waste. I've got surplus pizzas to pick up and deliver to a few hungry mouths downtown. Cheers.

[skimmington]

I am asserting the similarities between the word hegemony (domination without opposition) and the term ‘hedge’ (to make cross bets) ‘Money’ (payment for) are too similar to be accidental.

You are insisting on using a silly term which you made up to mean whatever you decide it means, defined by wherever you choose to use it.

Even the slightest glance at Gramsci’s resume and works would attest to the fact that the man was ‘no small thinker’.

That being so, what contribution did you mentioning it make to what you had to say?

What you have failed to do during your tedious replies is counter the claims i.e. substantiate the assertion that freemasonry is not “the organising centre of all the traditional forces supporting the state” as Gramsci very clearly states it is.

Since I haven't addressed the quote, neither having mentioned or referred to it I can hardly be said to have failed to substantiate an assertion about it constructed by you.

I quote Gramsci because the man was ‘no small thinker’ so it gives the quote weight, and he describes the situation in clear and articulate language.

The Gramsci text has whatever weight it possesses regardless of your use of it.
That you imagine your use gives it weight speaks volumes about the significance you presume for your infantile peroration. As I have said, you use Gramsci merely to lend gravitas to your screed.

Bolshevics, Mussolini, Hitler, Franco all proscribed freemasonry after the establishment of ‘fascist/bolshevist’ power. This can hardly be co-incidence but a recognisable historical pattern

Doesn't the perception of an historical pattern presuppose a context otherwise this is just a list of discrete events?

There are two quotes here regarding Musolinis proscription of freemasonry in the 20's. There are more in the full speech. Gramsci does not state his real concern - the anarcho communist masons being kicked out....it is clear that with this law you hope to impede the development of large worker and peasant organizations. That is the real value, the real meaning of the law.... The reality then is that the law against freemasonry is not principally against freemasonry.

You believe that Gramsci is not stating his real concern ?
What has happened here to your previous confidence of only a few lines previous that Gramsci describes the situation in clear and articulate language ? Now you are saying he is being disingenuous.

The context of Gramsicis writing is entirely clear – Gramsci was writing at a period of a power struggle between left and right in the 1920’s, where Mussolini triumphed, and the anarcho/communist left was destroyed

Have you read Gramsci's 1925 address to the Italian Parliament?

How does the context of the Italian political situation so diminish Gramscis words?

Who said it does? Although to put it mildly, your use of Gramsci's words serves you far better than it does him.

Do you need me to state your point of view?

Having overreached yourself just trying to give a coherent account of your own point of view, despite 27 pages of it and the apparently insurmountable difficulties you have with Gramsci's, you'll not be surprised to hear that I've no confidence that you'd fair any better with mine.

You only vainly blurt about etymology as though it is god’s word,

I simply countered your specious drivel by reference to a reliable source . Does it need to be God's word before you'll to take note? How are the delusions of grandeur today, frank?

babble about context, and ignore other comments as an when it suits.

I continue to address the subject under discussion.

A far more valuable contribution by you, in stating the identical nature of the word phoney and phonetics. Is not the nature of the word contained within it?

Evidently the easy pun on words was completely lost on you, but that comes as no surprise given your veneration of the facile.

You are the one pretending the there is not the slightest similarity between the term ‘hedge money’ and the word ‘hegemony’

....no miracle of belief can equal his child like faith in the credulity of the people who listen to him; and so it comes to pass that he fools nobody as completely as he fools himself. (Gerald Kersh 1938)

you have no discourse to phonetics

I'm not discoursing on phonetics at all, I leave that presumption to you. I pointed out your abject failure to grasp the area of concern of that discipline.

I would suggest physiological production, auditory perception, and neuro physiological status all pertain to the category of sense and meaning.

I would suggest any attempt by you to elaborate on this suggestion would be risible.

History is simply ‘his story’, in other words a manufactured version of events designed to give a very deliberate conclusion.

Note: 'story' is an aphetic form of 'history'.
How do you reconcile this characterization of history as a manufactured version of events designed to give a very deliberate conclusion with your 'truth' claim i.e. Unfortunatley [sic] it isn’t a particularly popular search, as the truth is never entertaining reading. ?
Nevertheless I do agree that what you have presented is indeed a manufactured version of events, a story designed to give a very deliberate conclusion. All be it a very poorly manufactured. A woefully superficial and fragmented narrative which resorts to making up silly words just to hold it together before leaping to a facile and implausible conclusion.

Given the unsubstantiated assertions with which you preface the Gramsci quote and the prescription to read into the text something which isn't stated, you'd do well to address the passage yourself in the first instance.
I have several times

If you have nothing to add to your argument by it why did you cite it?

perhaps you would wish to state the basis of your objections to my assertions.

I didn't state objections to your assertions I suggested you substantiate your assertions.

I have already done this, perhaps if you had read the earlier posts you would be more aware of the ‘subjects under discussion’

Again, if you have nothing more to add to what you have said in earlier posts, then why the selective repetition of what you have said in those earlier posts?

How the context can destroy the clarity of what Gramsci wrote and spoke you have yet to substantiate or even vocalise.

Why would I substantiate How the context can destroy the clarity of what Gramsci wrote when I'd not even implied it let alone suggested it? Perhaps If you'd read my earlier post you'd be aware of this.

You allude to the importance of ‘context’ almost every sentence.

I don't allude to it, I explicitly refer to it, twice.

Perhaps you would like to expand what you mean.

. Section 16 of the document from which you quote merely the first few lines. What is that particular document, frank? What is it about?

[frankzappa]

I am asserting the similarities between the word hegemony (domination without opposition) and the term ‘hedge’ (to make cross bets) ‘Money’ (payment for) are too similar to be accidental.
You are insisting on using a silly term which you made up to mean whatever you decide it means, defined by wherever you choose to use it.

Hardly a made up word when hedge and money both have recognised meanings in English. Hedge (to make cross bets or illigitmacy) money (payment for).

Even the slightest glance at Gramsci’s resume and works would attest to the fact that the man was ‘no small thinker’.
That being so, what contribution did you mentioning it make to what you had to say?

I would rather quote Gramsci than yourself, for example. I am informing the reader that Gramsci was not a complete idiot.


What you have failed to do during your tedious replies is counter the claims i.e. substantiate the assertion that freemasonry is not “the organising centre of all the traditional forces supporting the state” as Gramsci very clearly states it is.
Since I haven't addressed the quote, neither having mentioned or referred to it I can hardly be said to have failed to substantiate an assertion about it constructed by you.

Pedantic or pathetic or what. Come out of the closet skimington, in your humble opinion state why freemasonry is not the organising centre of all the traditional forces supporting the state as Gramsci says. This statement was taken from writings on fascist reaction not the speech to Italian parliament. Besides your contribution on hedge money I am struggling to find what your point is.

I quote Gramsci because the man was ‘no small thinker’ so it gives the quote weight, and he describes the situation in clear and articulate language.
The Gramsci text has whatever weight it possesses regardless of your use of it.
That you imagine your use gives it weight speaks volumes about the significance you presume for your infantile peroration. As I have said, you use Gramsci merely to lend gravitas to your screed.

I have always written from the heart and tried to substantiate the claims I have made to the best of my ability and continue to do so. That you imagine your contributions regarding hedge money and flapping about Gramsci will make a difference to my bee leafs speaks volumes regarding your own mental state.

Bolshevics, Mussolini, Hitler, Franco all proscribed freemasonry after the establishment of ‘fascist/bolshevist’ power. This can hardly be co-incidence but a recognisable historical pattern
Doesn't the perception of an historical pattern presuppose a context otherwise this is just a list of discrete events?

Is this a rhetorical question or are you simply proposing co-incidence theory? Get a grip. Do you expect me to believe the almost identical role played by freemasonry during revolutionary and non-revolutionary periods is co-incidence or accidental? Do you think mentioning the word context again somehow merits your cause or draws you ever closer to disapeering up your own arse? Desperately clutching to the word context, at the same time never having the balls to state what you mean by it - pathetic.

There are two quotes here regarding Musolinis proscription of freemasonry in the 20's. There are more in the full speech. Gramsci does not state his real concern - the anarcho communist masons being kicked out....it is clear that with this law you hope to impede the development of large worker and peasant organizations. That is the real value, the real meaning of the law.... The reality then is that the law against freemasonry is not principally against freemasonry.
You believe that Gramsci is not stating his real concern ?
What has happened here to your previous confidence of only a few lines previous that Gramsci describes the situation in clear and articulate language ? Now you are saying he is being disingenuous.

I refer to two different quotes, one from writing on fascist reaction, the other from the speech to Italian parliament, lets be clear which quotes we are referring to because from one source (speech to Italian parliament) there is ambiguity in Gramscis words, in the other there isnt. I believe Gramsci was heavily involved with freemasonry and during the speech to parliament was certainly under pressure regarding the lefts involvement with freemasonry. Within the speech there are many contradictory statements Gramsci makes regarding masonry. It is possible for a man to speak a lot of truth and simultaneously be disingenuous and this is what I have already stated. There is not the same degree of ambiguity in the essay the other Gramsci quote is taken from. True, ‘G-ram-scheme’, like ‘The-rot-scheme’ made many contradictory statements regarding masonry, defending it at times or diminishing it and attacking it at others. Depending on what ones beliefs and opinions are regarding freemasonry it is possible to use both Gramscis and Trotskys writings on freemasonry against or in defence of it. Would you expect me to take the quotes which do not support my beliefs when all they amount to are speeches in defence of freemasonry?

Do you really think the system would allow and print a systematic admission of masonrys crimes through the ages because that is nothing more than you demand, presumably in an online version? Certified by who?

The context of Gramsicis writing is entirely clear – Gramsci was writing at a period of a power struggle between left and right in the 1920’s, where Mussolini triumphed, and the anarcho/communist left was destroyed
Have you read Gramsci's 1925 address to the Italian Parliament?

Why would I quote it if I hadnt?

How does the context of the Italian political situation so diminish Gramscis words?
Who said it does?

Make your mind up

Although to put it mildly, your use of Gramsci's words serves you far better than it does him.

I would not necessarily deny this but it does not change the importance of what he said, nor does it diminish its value in trying to explain freemasonrys machinations..

Do you need me to state your point of view?
Having overreached yourself just trying to give a coherent account of your own point of view, despite 27 pages of it and the apparently insurmountable difficulties you have with Gramsci's, you'll not be surprised to hear that I've no confidence that you'd fair any better with mine.

You’ve wasted enough of my time already, why not waste more of it. It would at least give some justification for all your flapping. I suspect it would involve some highly mythical allusion to the word context and a woefully inaccurate and misinformed understanding of freemasonry.

You only vainly blurt about etymology as though it is god’s word,
I simply countered your specious drivel by reference to a reliable source . Does it need to be God's word before you'll to take note? How are the delusions of grandeur today, frank?

Your definition of a reliable source and mine are two entirely different things. You quote an online dictionary definition and appear terrified and furious that I would rather take my own interpretation of the word hegemony or hedge money than yours. “(He) despises those who see more than himself, or who regard things from a different standpoint. He is usually a bigot intolerant even of tolerance”. The possibility that language or languish could have been designed long in advance of its introduction and deliberately manufactured to subvert and pervert populations is simply incomprehensible to you. You did not counter anything only restated your zombiefied conditioning.

babble about context, and ignore other comments as an when it suits.
I continue to address the subject under discussion.

Very funny skimington, at least you havnt resorted to posting pictures yet. You continue to be a pain in the arse though.

A far more valuable contribution by you, in stating the identical nature of the word phoney and phonetics. Is not the nature of the word contained within it?
Evidently the easy pun on words was completely lost on you, but that comes as no surprise given your veneration of the facile.

I do not believe the similarities and resonances between words and phrases and the correspondences they evoke is a facile area of study. It simply proves the most basic concepts of phonetics are lost on you. You are the one pretending the there is not the slightest similarity between the term ‘hedge money’ and the word ‘hegemony’ Facile is your point of view regarding freemasonry which you’re so coy about you would probably claim you don’t have one.

....no miracle of belief can equal his child like faith in the credulity of the people who listen to him; and so it comes to pass that he fools nobody as completely as he fools himself. (Gerald Kersh 1938)

Try speaking the word hegemony and the term hedge money..It may be difficult to for you acknowledge but they are almost the same word.

you have no discourse to phonetics
I'm not discoursing on phonetics at all, I leave that presumption to you. I pointed out your abject failure to grasp the area of concern of that discipline.

You didn’t do anything of the sort, your failure to grasp this simple similarity between such terms as hedge money and hegemony and language and languish, belief and bee leaf proves your own abject failure in the discipline.

I would suggest physiological production, auditory perception, and neuro physiological status all pertain to the category of sense and meaning.
I would suggest any attempt by you to elaborate on this suggestion would be risible.

Suggest it all you want. I am not the one so blind or auditorily impaired that I cant acknowledge simple similarities between words and terms.

History is simply ‘his story’, in other words a manufactured version of events designed to give a very deliberate conclusion.
Note: 'story' is an aphetic form of 'history'.
How do you reconcile this characterization of history as a manufactured version of events designed to give a very deliberate conclusion with your 'truth' claim i.e. Unfortunatley [sic] it isn’t a particularly popular search, as the truth is never entertaining reading. ?
Nevertheless I do agree that what you have presented is indeed a manufactured version of events, a story designed to give a very deliberate conclusion. All be it a very poorly manufactured. A woefully superficial and fragmented narrative which resorts to making up silly words just to hold it together before leaping to a facile and implausible conclusion.

I had not finished posting, and the narrative could only ever be fragmented because who knows how long it would take to document all the crimes against humanity and their ultimate cause - maybe it would take at least twenty seven thousand pages. The plays on words have not particularly formed pivotal points in the narrative – they are more an aside. I do not believe the points that I have made and the manner I have made them has been superficial - remember my target audience, if I wanted to engage with academics I would’ve chosen my words differently.

We are entering into the age of Aquarius, which as Alan Watt and others have pointed out, will be a golden era for Sodom and Gomorrah (for want of a better term), leading to the end of man and woe (of) man as we know it, and the introduction of hermaprhodism on a grand scale. If you cant sense the slightest bit of truth in this statement I fear for you. It is only a facile or implausible conclusion to those without the imagination or intellect to conceive it.


perhaps you would wish to state the basis of your objections to my assertions.
I didn't state objections to your assertions I suggested you substantiate your assertions.
I have already done this, perhaps if you had read the earlier posts you would be more aware of the ‘subjects under discussion’
Again, if you have nothing more to add to what you have said in earlier posts, then why the selective repetition of what you have said in those earlier posts?
How the context can destroy the clarity of what Gramsci wrote and spoke you have yet to substantiate or even vocalise.
Why would I substantiate How the context can destroy the clarity of what Gramsci wrote when I'd not even implied it let alone suggested it? Perhaps If you'd read my earlier post you'd be aware of this.
You allude to the importance of ‘context’ almost every sentence.
I don't allude to it, I explicitly refer to it, twice.

Are you arguing one point of view to the next here? Have you read all the earlier posts? You are attempting semantic gymnastics but sooner or later you will have to stop and state your point of view and the second you do you know you’re finished.


Perhaps you would like to expand what you mean.
. Section 16 of the document from which you quote merely the first few lines. What is that particular document, frank? What is it about?

This is hardly expanding on what you mean you lazy urchin. It is not my job to phrase your point of view. If you have something to say – say it, otherwise stop wasting my time.

[frankzappa]

Read the following, taken from transcripts of cutting through the matrix.

Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
"Innovate, Don't Immolate" - Jan. 26, 2009
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
"Dream of Revolution through Evolution (Horus Unbound)" - Jan. 23, 2009http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts_Alan_Watt_2009.html

Winston Churchill, as I said yesterday, I read a bit from this particular book The Anglo-American Establishment, where he spoke about it in Parliament. He was not 'in', at that time, on the higher circles, he still had the same dream of a united Europe and it's so amazing to hear the old recordings of Churchill's speeches. He started it and Roosevelt started it in the US, their fireside chats to the people, you know, just cosy and just your next-door neighbour talking to you. That was the whole PR part behind it, the propaganda works well. When Churchill talked about uniting Europe, their age-old idea, to his peer group at night, during their parties. This was recorded in the book The Fringes of Power by his personal secretary John Colville, I think he's now Sir John Colville, I think he got knighted. So, here he is during the day, making Path newsreels for the general public, with good propaganda about going off to save your country, your way of life and all the rest of it, while, with his own peer group, he's talking about their age-old plan, "Our age-old plan". Who's 'We'? Who's we, because I think the people of Europe, the average person had never ever had dreamt of it; so, who are 'we'? Our age old-plan. Eventually, he was brought in as Prime Minister, to the higher workings, obviously, and he simply may have been peeved that a higher part of the circle had kept him out of the picture, because in 1946, in Zurich, Winston Churchill's speech was given to the academic youth and it says:

"Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen, I am honoured to-day by being received in your ancient university and by the address which had been given to me on your behalf and which I greatly value.

I wish to speak to you to-day about the tragedy of Europe. This noble continent, comprising on the whole the fairest and the most cultivated regions of the earth, enjoying a temperate and equable climate, is the home of all the great parent races of the western world.

He goes on to say

It is the fountain of Christian faith and Christian ethics …

and so on, it was very important, at that time, to use religion, in your propaganda. He says:

It is the origin of most of the culture, the arts, philosophy and science both of ancient and modern time. If Europe were once united in the sharing of its common inheritance, there would be no limit to the happiness, to the prosperity and the glory which its three or four million people would enjoy. Yet it is from Europe that have sprung that series of frightful nationalistic quarrels, originated by the Teutonic nations in their rise to power, which we have seen in this twentieth century and even in our own lifetime, wreck the peace and mar the prospects of all mankind.

And what is the plight to which Europe has been reduced? Some of the smaller States have indeed made a good recovery, but over wide areas a vast quivering mass of tormented, hungry, care-worn and bewildered human beings gape at the ruins of their cities and their homes, and scan the dark horizons for the approach of some new peril, tyranny or terror.

He goes on to talk about tyranny, terror and babbles of voices and so on because he's getting to the point. The point is, of course, that now with the threat of atom bomb, they couldn't have another war; and that sounds very nice and idealistic, we don't want wars, do we? Then he goes on to talk about the unification of Europe, as the only answer to it:

Yet all the while there is a remedy which, if it were generally and spontaneously adopted by the great majority of people in many lands, would as if by a miracle transform the whole scene, and would in a few years make all Europe, or the greater part of it, as free and as happy as Switzerland is to-day. What is this sovereign remedy? It is to re-create the European Family,

To re-create the European Family.

or as much of it as we can, and to provide it with a structure under which it can dwell in peace, in safety and in freedom. We must build a kind of United States of Europe.

Doesn't that sort of hearken back to Marx again? And, to Benjamin Franklin; remember, Franklin was way into the revolutionary idea, of course, he was a Founding Father, he was also the Ambassador to France, he was the head, the Grand Master of the Nine Sisters Lodge. He initiated Voltaire into that Lodge and they were all about revolution. I'll be back with more of this, after this break.

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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and we're Cutting Through The Matrix, trying to find out why things are happening in our lifetime actually happen, only to find out they were planned long before we were born. And, much intrigue and manipulation went in to creating the wars, in fact Carroll Quigley mentions, in The Anglo-American Establishment, how the Milner-Rhodes Society, Royal Institute of International Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations propped up Hitler, right up to the war started. We all know that, again, the same characters that ran and owned the big foundations were funding these particular groups, also created IG Farben, which created the German war machine. You think of the length of time Adolf Hitler was in, it was only a few years, from destitution to having a massive military machine; where did that come from? Read the Trials and Punishment of IG Farben, amongst other books, there's quite the trail, because, you'll find, it's the same people that’s been behind everything; and they're still at this world empire business today and if it takes wars to get there, they'll have them.

Getting back to this speech by Winston Churchill, he says:

We must build a kind of United States of Europe. In this way only will hundreds of millions of toilers be able to regain the simple joys and hopes which make life worth living. The process is simple. All that is needed is the resolve of hundreds of millions of men and women to do right instead of wrong and to gain as their reward blessing instead of cursing.
Much work, Ladies and Gentlemen, has been done upon this task by the exertions of the Pan-European Union

This was the precursor they tried for it.

which owes so much to Count Coudenhove-Kalergi and which commanded the services of the famous French patriot and statesman Aristide Briand.

He then goes on to talk about the League of Nations, he says:

The League of Nations did not fail because of its principles or conceptions. It failed because these principles were deserted by those States who had brought it into being.

He's calling them States here, remember, not Nations.

It failed because the governments of those days feared to face the facts, and act while time remained. This disaster must not be repeated. There is therefore much knowledge and material with which to build; and also bitter dear bought experience to stir the builders.

Because they're builders; they love building bridges and things.

I was very glad to read in the newspapers two days ago that my friend President Truman had expressed his interest and sympathy with this great design.

Great Design and building.

There is no reason why a regional organization of Europe

They call it regions today, under the United Nations.

should in any way conflict with the world organization of the United Nations. On the contrary, I believe that the larger synthesis will only survive if it is founded upon coherent natural groupings. There is already a natural grouping in the western hemisphere. We British have our own Commonwealth of Nations.

Now, going back to The Anglo-American Establishment, the League of Nations and eventually the United Nations, were to be established on the British Commonwealth of Nations and the term 'Commonwealth of Nations' was termed, as Quigley said, by the Royal Institute of International Affairs, this private organisation that works outside of democracy, although it uses their institutions, since in pretty well dominates them. He says:
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hese do not weaken, on the contrary they strengthen, the world organization. They are in fact its main support. And why should there not be a European group which could give a sense of enlarged patriotism and common citizenship to the distracted peoples of this turbulent and mighty continent? And why should it not take its rightful place with other great groupings and help to shape the onward destinies of men?

The Grand Design, that's my term, from theirs of course, from other books.

In order that this should be accomplished there must be an act of faith in which millions of families speaking many languages must consciously take part.

Then, he goes into, they always use history to try, and again, this is explained in Carroll Quigley’s books, Anglo-American Establishment and Tragedy & Hope, how they always slant history, to make it seem that we're moving towards a natural unification of the planet; and, that all religions are working, in some metaphysical way, towards this amalgamation and that all political processes are kind of evolving by themselves, towards this same goal. Therefore, they spin their history to leave you, again, with the conclusion, which is the technique of propaganda.

As I say, these same people, today, are telling us that we must unite under a planetary system, because the new war is man against the planet and the planet against man. The Gaia concept as they say. It's quite something to really understand what's happening, because we live in propaganda pretty well all of the time. How far back do these groups and societies go? Well, you have to go back into the 1800s, at least, to get an idea when they were doing a lot of writing about revolution, because it's to do, really, with revolution; and, you must go into the writings of people like Robespierre and Voltaire, Bakunin, Trotsky, Lenin, all these people who talked about world systems, world societies, using the Socialist front. Now, Socialism is an interesting term because it's like every other term that's used from God to Socialism, you get many different versions, according to who you ask. Here's an article here actually that ties right in with this, I'm just punching it up right now.

Let's go back to H.G. Wells, who was an official propagandist of this sect and the article says:

Nominally a socialist

We all think socialism is good, social is a nice word; they use these terms in propaganda that you'll relate to. Social is nice, we're all social beings. Socialist, 'ist', again, like 'ism', is a doctrine. Many people at the bottom think that if you're paying taxes into the system, you're supposed to get services back and that sounds pretty fair. If they're going to take it off you, why don't they give it back, in services; but it doesn't quite work that way, does it?

Now, remember, before the revolutions within the 1700s-1800s, governments simply taxed you and you got nothing back, nothing at all back; but you don't realise that even in Britain, there was no welfare system pretty well until the '50s. There was no unemployment insurance - that came through socialist movements, from the bottom. They went out on strike and a whole nation came to a standstill, because of miners and stuff like that. That's how they had to negotiate with those who ruled.

You take things for granted today, without knowing what really happened before, not so long before; and, this is a fact too: the only reason that you had all of these different schemes, including drug plans at work and stuff like that, little perks, was so that the West could say to their workers, see, we're pretty good here, we're pretty humane. If you've noticed since the Berlin Wall came down, they've all been gradually taken away, until there's very little left at the bottom. That's not by chance.

H.G. Wells, though nominally a socialist, was always in bed with the major Darwinist thinkers of the time.

They all were.

In this paragraph of New Worlds for Old, he talks about the theoretical similarities of what he terms true and noble anarchism, this is also the higher stage of Communism Marx and anarchists refer to. He states 'laboriously we mean to destroy false ideas of property and self.'

Property and self. Where do you find that same doctrine? Where do you find that? If you go into the writings of Pike and others, you'll find them there. The false ideas of property and self. Now, Communism too and Marxism blamed everything on property. You have to go back into the religions, down through the ages and the accompanying religions that always accompany them, often termed too, vaguely, as 'mystery religions' and we all go 'ooh' and 'ah' and we're scared and we're intrigued and so on; but there have always been fraternities down through the ages, that carry forth ideas. Plato was a member; he writes in his own books that he was a member of these sects. He studied in Egypt, that's where he was taught. His mentor was given hemlock for, supposedly, stirring up the young for revolution, revolution. Through revolution they get their way and Plato talked about a Utopia, for his own class, the intellectual elite, where they wouldn't have to maintain their own property, the State would maintain it for them. Therefore, you would have an abolition of private property. Having private property himself, he said was a problem: you had to repair stuff, keep it up, the upkeep of it, replace stolen goods, fix things that break. Why not get those that you rule over to do it for you; and, you're living a life of luxury, but all the peasants below wouldn't have the same life of luxury.

This same theme has come down through the ages, Wells himself said that Plato was his favourite author and his favourite book was The Republic, by Plato.

false ideas of property and self

What's your false ideas of the self? The false ideas of your self. Well, the old idea was that man was the pinnacle of all creation and, when atheism was pushed to the fore, using Darwinism, we see the outcomes today. You have people like Richard Dawkins being promoted all over the planet for his statements that there's no God, just taking up the banner from Nietzsche and others and a big Foundation behind him is funding him to put banners across London's buses saying "There's no God, get used to it". Why would you care so much about what other people thought or believed, to go to this extent to put banners across buses? This person obviously could not live and let live. What you're up against is a totalitarian mind-set and that's where utter pure complete atheism will take you.

He also wrote the book The Selfish Gene and we laugh at this and think well, ‘so what?'. Well, you see, his whole thesis on the Selfish Gene, meaning you're not a person, you're just a culmination of billions of cells, all fighting for their own survival and whatever thought that you have, whatever you appear to be, is a culmination of all these genes fighting each other. That's the nihilism that it brings you to; and, nihilistic thought like this and you have alienation and they call it that at the top, alienation, when you're so far removed from some will to keep you alive, you become nihilistic; and, nihilistic people can destroy many and that's the type we have at the top. That theory, by the way, of you’re not a person, you're just the outcome of billion of cells, competing for survival, was adapted into Game Theory and used by the CIA and the Rand Corporation, through your computers, to analyse all of us as people and I'm sure we're all very disposable because we're really nothing special anymore, we're just a 'freak of nature.'

In H.G. Wells' New Worlds for Old, 1908, he says:

That Anarchist world, I admit, is our dream;

He's speaking on behalf of the Fabian Society. Remember George Bernard Shaw, that wrote Man and Superman, meaning the old man must die off, a new type will be created. Funded by the Astors, who are also part of the Royal Institute of International Affairs and funded them as well.

That Anarchist world, I admit, is our dream; we do believe - well, I, at any rate, believe this present world, this planet, will some day bear a race beyond our most exalted and temerarious dreams, a race begotten of our wills and the substance of our bodies, a race, so I have said it, "who will stand upon the earth as one stands upon a footstool and laugh and reach out their hands amidst the stars," but the way to that is through education and discipline and law.

Education and discipline and law - that's the methods they would use to indoctrinate, towards their ideal.

Socialism is the preparation for that higher Anarchism; painfully, laboriously we mean to destroy false ideas of property and self, eliminate unjust laws and poisonous and hateful suggestions and prejudices, create a system of social right-dealing and a tradition of right feeling and action.

I guess that's the right stuff eh? What kind of rite does he belong to?

Socialism is the schoolroom of true and noble Anarchism, wherein by training and restraint we shall make free men.
Free from what? From being you. I don't know if you saw the outcome of the great experiment of the Sovietisation system that was carried out for an awful long time, where authors and poets were dragged up, because of certain words they'd use that were not in line with the Proletariat ideal; and, you were cross-examined and books were not allowed to be published, if a wrong phrase or word was put in there. Everything had to be for the one system, towards the one system, there was no self; there was no self, what does he say here? "To destroy the self".

In the cold light of day, H.G. Wells calls for eugenics and dictatorship through committees and can be seen as the hell so clearly portrayed in Huxley's Brave New World and Orwell's 1984. However unappealing to anarchists this vision may be, H.G. Wells's claims are no more objectionable than Kropotkin’s claim for The Beehive.

Read who Kropotkin was, because these are very important people, because their systems have all been combined. Claim for the beehive, that was his beehive, as his vision of Anarcho-syndicalism, they called it. Again, more circles coming together.

Although an anarchist may reject Scientific Socialism, it is a rejection of its means, not its ends. Bakunin is very clear on this in Catechisms of a Revolutionist.

That was printed in 1869. What does it say in that book? Now listen to this:

The Revolutionist is a doomed man.

This is a dedication here that Orwell put it in his own book 1984 as the oath they swear, showing you what the true revolutionist was.

He has no private interests, no affairs, sentiments, ties, property nor even a name of his own. His entire being is devoured by one purpose, one thought, one passion - the revolution.

All that was, was to be totally destroyed.

Heart and soul, not merely by word but by deed, he has severed every link with the social order and with the entire civilized world; with the laws, good manners, conventions, and morality of that world.

I'll be back with more of this very important stuff, it's happening today, after this break.

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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and we're Cutting Through The Matrix and I'm reading part of a book, 1869, Catechism of a Revolutionist by Mikhail Bakunin and Sergi Nechayev. To continue where I left off, because this is the Catechism of a revolutionist. This is the true belief of the true revolutionist:

He is its merciless enemy

That's society and the world.

and continues to inhabit it with only one purpose - to destroy it. He despises public opinion. He hates and despises the social morality of his time,

What have we seen happening through the whole 20th Century? And remember what I said, from Carroll Quigley, when the CIA were into the Culture Creation business and the same members in the CIA were also in the CFR and people thought it was all the Communists who were bringing the system down and changing the mores of the public.

He despises public opinion. He hates and despises the social morality of his time, its motives and manifestations. Everything which promotes the success of the revolution is moral; everything which hinders it is immoral. The nature of the true revolutionist excludes all romanticism, all tenderness, all ecstasy, all love.

As I say: you'll find that Orwell put that in his book 1984, when O'Brien gives him the dictionary which has the double pages inside, he had to peel off and find out the revolutionist bible, basically, inside of it. It was the same ideal.

H.G. Wells sees the New World Order as occurring basically outside his lifetime, Bakunin see this process and the goal of the extinction of self and property as its most urgent revolutionary aim. It in no small way recalls Orwell's fictional recruitment meeting for the brotherhood in 1984.

That's the recruitment meeting idea, the brotherhood, in a sense.

The initiate is expected to throw all caution to the wind, because he says in that book, you're prepared to give your lives, prepared to commit murder, to commit acts of sabotage, which may cause the death of hundreds of innocent people, to betray your country to foreign powers.

What is it that Quigley says in the Anglo-American Establishment? These people, literally, have been involved in all the major wars, even setting them up, guiding them. What is it they said when 9/11 came down, at the CFR meeting, that was flashed all over the different videos on 9/11? They said at the CFR meeting, we can use this tragedy to our own good use, our own agenda. They always take things and use it for their agenda. Any disaster will do, because they do have an agenda.

Bakunin was unabashed in his encouragement for the worst excesses of the brotherhood's land-based piracy.

This is what he wrote in 1869.

The comrades of the International Working Men’s Association

And he goes on to talk about the middle classes and so on and Freemasonry, because there's no doubt about it, look at all your crests everywhere, and all the countries that came out of revolution. You've always got the pyramid; you've got obelisks all over the place. You have the Phoenix and what does the Phoenix symbolise: a new system arising, every few hundred years, out of the ashes of the old. What was it that Bakunin said? You destroy everything that's familiar – they hate it – to bring in the new.

I'll be back with more next week on the same topic and go in deeper. So, from Hamish and myself, from Ontario Canada, it's goodnight and may your god - or your gods - go with you.
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Book Excerpts: [Continued] "Tragedy and Hope" and "The Anglo-American Establishment" by Carroll Quigley.

"Catechism of a Revolutionist" by Sergei Nechayev and Mikhail Bakunin.

Speech: Winston Churchill's Speech to the Academic Youth (Zurich, 19.9.1946) (at europa-web.de).)

Last week, I talked about the revolution and how revolution has really been fairly continuous, since the 1500s, when the Rosicrucian Societies broke out, at that time in the Court of Queen Elizabeth 1st, and then pamphlets were plastered all over Paris, the following century; and then Germany too and other places, talking about a New World Order.
That was taken up by other people that are well-known in history, including Adam Weishaupt who coined the term that's used on the seal of the United States Novus ordo seclorum, a new world order. It wasn't a grass roots thing, it didn't come from the bottom. No rebellion ever came from the public at the bottom. You might see a rebellion comes, but not a revolution; revolutions are planned, because they want to succeed. It takes sometimes a generation or two to plan a revolution, all successful ones do it that way.

I read from Bakunin, who was one of the professional revolutionary and this is an article that he wrote in the Journal El Progress Geneva in 1869, to give you a clue about the associations that were involved and actually promoted revolution. It says:

In this epoch the bourgeoisie

The bourgeoisie are, I'll just say, the middle-classes; they meant upper middle-classes in those days.
too had created an international association, a universal and formidable one, Freemasonry. It would be a substantial error to judge the Freemasonry of the last century, or even that of the first part of the present century,

That's the 1800s.

by what it is today. The bourgeois institution par excellence, Freemasonry, in its development, in its growing power at first and later in its decadence, represented in a way the development, power and moral and intellectual decadence of the bourgeoisie. Today, fallen to the sad position of a senile old intriguer, it is a useless, sometimes malevolent and always ridiculous nullity, whereas, before 1830 and especially before 1793, having gathered together at its core, with very few exceptions, all the minds of the elite,

See: it was an elite movement. Revolution was from the elite.

the most ardent hearts, the proudest spirits, the most audacious personalities, it had constituted an active, powerful, and truly beneficial institution.

Now, there are many books of the period written, and before that too, that were quite open about the fact that Freemasonry, it was through Freemasonry and their associations in the coffee houses in France and so on that they gradually worked the people up, getting them ready for revolution. It's no secret the United States was founded by professional, I call them professional Freemasons, active Freemasons and you can see their symbols everywhere. Bakunin goes on:

It is known that all the principal actors of the first revolution were Freemasons and that when this revolution broke out it was able to find, thanks to Freemasonry, friends and devoted and powerful collaborators in all other countries,
That's true, Thomas Paine was a professional revolutionary, he came over from England, to take part in the American Revolution; once it was over, he went to France, to help them set up and run their revolution.
a fact that was assuredly of great help in its victories. But it is equally clear that the triumph of the revolution killed Freemasonry, for once the revolution had largely fulfilled the aspirations of the bourgeoisie, and had enabled it to displace the old nobility, the bourgeoisie went on quite naturally, after having been an exploited and oppressed class for such a long time, to become in its turn a privileged class, a class of exploiters, oppressive, conservative and reactionary in nature, the most reliable friend and supporter of the State.
I'm going to go into this deeper, after the following break.

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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and Cutting Through The Matrix. History is always presented as little factions unrelated to the next faction, but nothing is further from the truth. We've had really perpetual revolution, sometimes bloody, but mainly through cultural alterations, for centuries; and, even though Bakunin decries Masonry as becoming kind of fat and obsolete, he's not telling quite the truth, because there are factions of it that kept going and Freemasonry was always subservient to the upper classes; the aristocracy you might say. You can go into the history through Mackey's Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry, you'll see just that, you'll find out who is supposedly the heads of the Grand Lodge of England for instance.

Yet, at all times, through history, you'll find that it doesn't matter what side that you think you're on, there’s another hand controlling both of them, and guiding it, because it's the outcome that's necessary for the thesis, antitheses and synthesis. The synthesis is the goal; the conflict between the first two brings you to that goal, that's the whole point of it in conflicts. It was the Intelligentsia that have been behind all the major revolutions, the successful revolutions. When the people at the bottom riot, that's what it is, it's an unorganised riot; it’s a last desperate stand to keep something that's being taken from them, generally. If we don't understand that this is truly an on-going intellectual war, which is very obvious today, then we'll never get the point at we’ll never understand it; because if you watch how the big foundations operate today, they use all the graduates of the universities, they fund the universities; the universities, in turn, become authorities and they advise governments and they're all on board across the whole planet with the same agenda.

Go into the writings of Sir Thomas Huxley, the grandfather of Aldous Huxley. Sir Thomas Huxley took up the banner of Darwinism and Darwinism is worth a good look at, because it was a religion, a religion created to destroy, once again, all that was, to bring in something new; and, they're still running on Darwinism today. Sir Thomas Huxley recruited lots of well-known writers of the period, including H.G. Wells, and trained them at the red tie school, red for revolution; and, their whole goal was bring to bring more intellectuals into the system for the revolution, to bring in a new world order.
What is a new world order? What does it really mean? What they mean is that, as Jefferson called them, the natural aristocracy, had the right to rule the world; the intelligentsia is what they're talking about.

During the Cold War, that finished around 1989, supposedly when the Berlin Wall came down, you'll find that pretty well all spies, all of them in fact, that were double spies, double agents that worked for the Soviets, and before that, go into Adolf Hitler's Germany, the ones who worked for Adolf Hitler, all came from Oxford and Cambridge, they'd all been to Eton. They all came from the privileged class. Not from the bottom ranks, the lower classes, never happened. Constant revolution by the intelligentsia; and, it's the young minds that are recruited at universities, it's still on-going, for revolution and they don't understand that very old people are conditioning their minds and giving them, what they think, is their generation's revolution. This is the constant technique that's always used.

It's a planned future we're going into and Sir Thomas Huxley, in his own writings, laid out the agenda in his book Man Stands Alone, he said that the problems of the future will be over-population. There's always been a mandate for this; eugenics is another thing. He talked about the creation of imbeciles and how many generations of imbeciles do you want. He said man is just an animal, basically, and would have to be treated as such.

He also talked about something called spirit, even though he was an atheist or a humanist, he talked about spirit. Well, he was talking about the Masonic revolutionary spirit of fire, that's what they mean by that, when they refer to spirit; and, where does the whole origin of fire come from? Ancient symbology, for the illumined ones, fire destroys that which is substance and releases a heat and a light at the same time. It alters everything, destroys all that was, but at the same time it is giving something off that is new; it stands for pure brilliant intellect as well.

There's a book that goes into this by James H. Billington called Fire in the Minds of Men and he was the official librarian for Congress, so he was no conspiracy nut and I'll read a bit of this, when I come back from this break.

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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and this is Cutting Through The Matrix.

I'm going to read the introduction of Fire In The Minds of Men: Origins Of The Revolutionary Faith, by James H. Billington. At the time of writing it, he was the official librarian for Congress; and, just before I read this actually, I'd like to talk about, or just mention: I'm going to leave a link, at the end of the show where you can see how the London School of Economics gave us the 'trickle down' theory and how they ran, supposedly, the economy, this great intellectual group, that's attached to Oxford, of course, I think Oxford even set it up. Everything comes from Oxford and Cambridge. It's quite interesting and worth a little look at, it explains the Trickle Down Theory, of economics. Back to this book, he says:
This book seeks to trace the origins of a faith - perhaps the faith of our time. Modern revolutionaries are believers, no less committed and intense than were the Christians or Muslims of an earlier era. What is new is the belief that a perfect secular

That's worldly.

order will emerge from the forcible overthrow of traditional authority. This inherently implausible idea gave dynamism to Europe in the nineteenth century, and has become the most successful ideological export of the West to the world in the twentieth.

This is a story not of revolutions, but of revolutionaries: the innovative creators of a new tradition. The historical frame is the century and a quarter that extends from the waning of the French Revolution in the late eighteenth century to the beginnings of the Russian Revolution in the early twentieth. The theatre was Europe of the industrial era; the main stage, journalistic offices within great European cities.

Because you see, the intelligentsia and journalism always worked hand in hand, as they still do today; and, their main method was propaganda. Propaganda was not invented by Bernays, by any means, it was well-understood as a science long before.

At centre stage stood the characteristic, nineteenth-century European revolutionary: a thinker lifted up by ideas, not a worker or peasant bent down by toil. He was part of a small elite whose story must be told "from above", much as it may displease those who believe that history in general (and revolutionary history in particular) is basically made by socio-economic pressures "from below".

The people below are always used for revolutions, but they don't design them; there's always an elite who does it for you.
This "elite" focus does not imply indifference to the mass human suffering which underlay the era of this narrative. It reflects only the special need to concentrate here on the spiritual thirst of those who think rather than on the material hunger of those who work. For it was passionate intellectuals who created and developed the revolutionary faith. This work seeks to explore concretely the tradition of revolutionaries, not to explain abstractly the process of revolution. My approach has been inductive rather than deductive, explorative rather than definitive: an attempt to open up rather than "cover" the subject.

My general conclusions can be stated simply at the outset - and, for the sake of argument, more bluntly than they may appear in the text that follows.

The revolutionary faith was shaped not so much by the critical rationalism of the French Enlightenment (as is generally believed) as by the occultism and proto-romanticism of Germany.

Occultism = that what’s hidden.

This faith was incubated in France during the revolutionary era within a small subculture of literary intellectuals, who were immersed in journalism,

The media.

fascinated by secret societies and subsequently infatuated with 'ideologies' as a secular surrogate for religious belief.
The professional revolutionaries who first appeared during the French Revolution sought, above all, radical simplicity.

Their deepest conflicts revolved around the simple worlds of their key slogan: liberty, equality, fraternity.

It's funny, because if you go into Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma, of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, you'll find that he goes through those three words and then he tells you that no thing could possibly exist, even though they used it to get the masses to go through revolutions for them. It says here:

Liberty has been the battle cry of earlier revolutions (in sixteenth-century Holland, seventeenth-century England, eighteenth-century America) which produced complex political structures to limit tyranny (separating powers, constituting rights, legitimising federation).

Well, that's getting lost and tossed out the window now.

The French Revolution also initially invoked similar ideas, but the new and more collectivist ideals of fraternity and equality soon arose to rival the older concept of liberty. The words nationalism and communism were first invented in the 1790s to define the simpler, more sublime, seemingly less selfish ideals of fraternity and equality, respectively. The basic struggle that subsequently emerged among committed revolutionaries was between advocates of national revolution for a new type of fraternity and those of social revolution for a new type of equality.

They always split you into two, even though you think you're on the same side, they will always do that, they get you into factions.

The French national example and republican ideal dominated the revolutionary imagination throughout the first half of the nineteenth century. Exiled Francophile intellectuals from Poland and Italy largely fashioned the dominant concept of revolutionary nationalism - inventing most modern ideas of guerrilla violence and wars of national liberation, expressing their essentially emotional ideal best in mythic histories, vernacular poetry and operatic melodrama.

They used all of the arts, as they still do today, as a main method of propaganda, because, since people don't really think through things, they don't reason, through fiction, you'll find they're very-very influenced through fiction, emotion, so emotion fixed with a topic will stay in the mind and you will go along with the emotion that you saw in the play etc.

Rival social revolutionaries began to challenge the romantic nationalists after the revolutions of 1830; and this socialist tradition increasingly predominated after the forming of the First International in 1864 and the movement of the revolutionary cause from French to German and Russian leadership. Social revolutionaries expressed their essentially rationalistic ideal best in prose pamphlets and prosaic organisations. Their hidden model was the impersonal and dynamic machine of factory industry rather than the personalised but static lodge of the Masonic aristocracy.

The Masonic aristocracy.

No less fateful than the schism between national and social revolutionaries was the conflict among social revolutionaries that began in the 1840s between Marx and Proudhon. The former's focus was on destroying the capitalist economic system clashed with the latter's war on the centralised bureaucratic state.

If you notice the system that's coming in now, it’s a new economic system and it's been shouted from the highest hilltops, in the last few weeks; and, it will be a new economic system, a planned society is what they're taking us to, where those at the top will live in incredible luxury, even though, technically, a lot of them will still serve the state; but, they won't have to pay for anything, they'll still live in palaces and have servants etc.

The word intelligentsia and the thirst for ideology migrated east from Poland to Russia (and from a national to a social revolutionary cause) through the Russian student radicals of the 1860s, who developed a now ascetic type of terrorism. Lenin drew both on this Russian tradition of violence and on German concepts of organisation to create the Bolshevism that eventually brought the revolutionary tradition out of the wilderness and into power.

The revolutionary faith developed in nineteenth-century Europe only within those societies that had not previously (1) legitimised ideological dissent by breaking with medieval forms of religious authority and (2) modified monarchical power by accepting some form of organised political opposition. In northern Europe and North America, where these conditions were met by Protestant and parliamentary traditions, the revolutionary faith attracted almost no indigenous adherents. Thus, the revolutionary tradition can be seen as a form of political-ideological opposition that arose first against authoritarian Catholicism (in France, Italy and Poland) and then against other religiously-based autocracies (in Lutheran Prussia, Orthodox Russia).

What they did you see, first, to change everything, they looked at the system as it was and the main opponent at one time, in fact the only real opponent was the Roman Catholic system; and, therefore, they went to war with that first. Very intense wars, you have to look at the histories of the wars, the religious wars, to see how horrific and for how long they went on.

Once that was done, the same groups that had courted any opposition and eventually the Protestant sects, they used them too. They had to destroy them as well, in turn. So, you're used and then you're destroyed, because the goal is a completely different new world order than the one you think. That's why you don't follow leaders; do your homework and know what on earth is going on.

It's interesting too that Lenin himself, who took over from Mazzini, now Mazzini was a revolutionary professional, again trained, and he also took over as the head of Masonry for one point, from Albert Pike and who took over from him was Lenin, who then set up the Bolshevik, ultimately called the Soviet system, in Russia. I've also gone through the fact that the Royal Institute of International Affairs was heavily involved all during that era. The Milner Group and those boys were heavily involved in it. Russia was called the second great experiment; the United States was the first. They studied what they'd done, the kind of outcomes that they had and would they suit the purposes or would they have to go further. How would they get to their next objective? That's why they're called experiments; who does experiments? Scientists do experiments. Think of the words that you read.

Before attempting to chronicle the drama, the dogmas and the disputes of this new, secular religion-in-the-making,
And it is a religion

it is important to linger on the mystery and the majesty of faith itself. The heart of revolutionary faith, like any faith, is fire

Back to fire again.

ordinary material transformed into extraordinary form, quantities of warmth suddenly changing the quality of substance. If we do not know what fire is, we know what it does. It burns. It destroys life; but it also supports it as source of heat, light and - above all - fascination.

Fascination.

Man, who works with fire as homo faber, also seems foredoomed in his freedom to play with it as homo ludens.
Now, if you remember - those that have not been so jaded by all the recent slaughter that's gone on across the planet - if you can remember the slaughter at Waco, when, the government sent people and the BATF just to wipe out a whole bunch of families and children. That was literally a symbolic act as well, to tell everybody that religion is over. You do not longer have any special privileges, it's over; and, not only that, they hate you, they utterly hate you; those who rule hate you. At the end, when they set fire to it all and burned the whole place down, with the people in it (there are videos out there where you'll see) the BATF bowing to the flames. Ask what kind of brotherhood they belong to; bowing to the flames, they love fire.

Our particular chapter in history unfolds at a time of physical transformation in Europe that was almost as momentous as the first discovery of fire must have been in the mists of antiquity. The industrial revolution was permitting men to leash fire to machines - and to unleash fire power on each other - with a force undreamed of in earlier ages. In the midst of those fires appeared the more elusive flame that Dostoevsky described in the most searching work of fiction ever written about the revolutionary movement: The Possessed.

He wrote about it in a fictional work, but there’s more written about often in fiction than they'll tell you in reality. The story, basically, was about a small provincial town that was suddenly inspired by new ideas and then afterwards, a fire broke out and a local official shouted in the middle of night:

"The fire is in the minds of men, not in the roofs of building"

Hence the title of this book.

Dostoevsky was writing under the impact of two great fires that disturbed him deeply and heralded the transfer of revolutionary leadership from France to Russia. These fires had broken out in imperial St. Petersburg in the spring of 1861 (where the emancipation of the serfs seemed to have inflamed rather than calmed passions) and in imperial Paris ten years later (where the flaming defeat of the Paris Commune ended forever the era of romantic illusions).

The flame of faith had begun its migrations a century earlier, when some European aristocrats transferred their lighted candles from Christian alters to Masonic lodges. The flame of occult alchemists, which had promised to turn dross into gold, reappeared at the centre of new 'circles'

Now, what did I call those groups within the Royal Institute of International Affairs? They call them circles.
seeking to recreate a golden age:

To recreate a golden age, we hear that over and over, with the idealists of the day and past-times as well, to recreate a golden age.

Bavarian Illuminists conspiring against the Jesuits, French Philadelphians against Napoleon, Italian charcoal burners against the Hapsburgs. When the most important anti-Napoleonic conspiracy was ridiculed for attempting "to use as a lever something which is only a match" its leader replied that: With a match one has no need of a lever; one does not lift up the world, one burns it.

You burn the world.

The leader in spreading the conspiracy to Italy soon noted that "the Italian flame" had spread "the fire of freedom
That's what they called it: the fire of freedom.

to the most frozen land of Petersburg". There the first Russian revolution occurred in December 1825. Its slogan "From the spark comes the flame!" was originated by the first man to predict an egalitarian social revolution in the eighteenth-century (Sylvain Marechal) and revived by the first man to realise such a revolution in the twentieth (Lenin, who used it as the epigram for his journal, The Spark).

Always fire; always fire.

A recurrent mythic model for revolutionaries - early romantics, the young Marx, the Russians of Lenin's time - was
Prometheus,

Prometheus, remember it was he -
who stole the fire from the god for the use of mankind. The Promethean faith of revolutionaries resembled in many respects the general modern belief that science would lead men out of darkness into light.

A world run by a scientific elite.

Back in a moment, after these messages.

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Hi folks, I am Alan Watt and we're Cutting Through The Matrix, continuing with the some of the book Fire in the Minds of Men by James H. Billington. He says:

But there was also the more pointed millennial assumption that, on the new day that was dawning,

The new day that was dawning and they've got lots of paintings with the sun rising. You'll see that in the portrait of Benjamin Franklin toasting the new president, the first president of the United States and he says, in his own works mind you, that's Benjamin Franklin that is, in his own letters, he says we toast this grandmaster of these United States. Getting back to the book, it says:

the sun would never set.

Meaning light, intellect would always rule from then on.

Early, during the French upheaval was born a "solar myth of the revolution" suggesting that the sun was rising on a new era in which darkness would vanish forever.

Meaning: ignorance.

This image became implanted "at a level of consciousness that simultaneously interpreted something real and produced a new reality." The new reality they sought was radically secular and stridently simple. The ideal was not the balance complexity of the new American federation, but the occult simplicity of its great seal: an all-seeing eye atop a pyramid over the words Novus Ordo Seclorum. In search of primal, natural truths, revolutionaries looked back to pre-Christian antiquity - adopting pagan names like "Anaxagorus" Chaumette and "Anacharsis" Cloots, idealising above all the semimythic Pythagoras as the model intellect-turned-revolutionary and the Pythagorean belief in prime numbers,

That's how they communicate.

geometric forms and the higher harmonies of music.

That's the tones, in fact, from Pythagoras, you get ton, the weight measurement; the tone, the sound etc.
Many of the same Strasbourg musicians who first played La Marseillasie in 1792 had introduced Mozart's
Mozart was a Freemason; and, if you've ever seen the Magic Flute, you'll see an awful lot in that particular show.
Magic Flute to French audiences in the same city only a few months earlier and Mozart's illuminist message seemed to explain the fuller meaning of the jour de gloire

Day of glory.

that Rouget de Lisle's anthem had proclaimed: The rays of the sun have vanquished the night, The powers of darkness have yielded to the light. The rising sun brought heat as well as light, for the fire was generally lit not at high noon on a tabula rasa by some philosopher-king, but rather by some unknown guest arriving at midnight amidst the excesses of Don Giovanni's banquet, "Communism" the label Lenin finally adopted, was invented not by the great Rousseau but by a Rousseau du ruisseau (Rousseau of the gutter): the indulgent fetishist and nocturnal street-walker in pre-revolutionary Paris, Restif de la Bretonne. Thus the revolutionary label that now controls the destiny of more than one billion people in the contemporary world sprang from the erotic imagination of an eccentric writer.

And, by the way, you'll find an awful lot of their main writers were highly neurotic, some had been kicked out of different countries for, literally exposing themselves, although they couldn’t help it, it seems, and they were the greatest propagandists of all that were used, look into Voltaire, very interesting history.

I hear the music coming in for tonight; and, so, from Hamish and myself, in Ontario Canada, it's goodnight and may your god, or your gods, go with you.
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Article: "World warned of 'food crunch' threat" by Javier Blas, Financial Times (ft.com) - Jan. 25, 2009.
Video: "London School of Economics 'Trickle-Down Theory' " (youtube.com).)
Letter in "Journal El Progress of Geneva" (1869) by Mikhail Bakunin.
Book: "Fire in the Minds of Men" by James H. Billington.

[frankzappa]

To repeat: There isn’t nothing going on but human sacrifice in this shitty isis temple, and perhaps the ritual of human sacrifice itself is the beginning and ending of many of the so called mysteries of freemasonry. Do you really believe this universal religion of the masses died with pre-capitalist feudalism?

These are not hollow words. A considerable clue to affirming this statement can be found in study of the legend of the ‘mysteries of Osiris’.

“3. The Egyptian Connection
It is the consensus of opinion among Masonic authorities, philosophers and writers of doctrine that the legend of Hiram Abiff is merely the Masonic version of a much older legend, that of Isis and Osiris, basis of the Egyptian Mysteries. The following is a brief summary of that legend, and a comparison with the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff. This comparison is supported, beyond doubt, by the conclusions of the Masonic authorities.

a. The legend of Isis and Osiris
Osiris, both King of the Egyptians and their god, went on a long journey to bless neighboring nations with his knowledge of arts and sciences. His jealous brother, Typhon (god of Winter) conspired to murder him, steal his kingdom and did so. Isis, sister and wife of Osiris and his queen (as well as Egypt's Moon-goddess) set out on a search for the body, making inquiries of all she met.

After certain adventures, she found the body with an Acacia tree at the head of the coffin. Returning home, she secretly buried the body, intending to give it proper burial as soon as arrangements were made. Typhon, by treachery, stole the body, cut it up into 14 pieces and hid them in as many places. Isis then made a second search and located all the pieces but one; the one missing and lost part was the phallus.

She made a substitute phallus, consecrated it, and it became a sacred substitute, and object of worship.
This, in extremely abbreviated form, is the Egyptian legend of Isis and Osiris. It is without doubt, the basis for the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff. To support this "Egyptian connection," let's consider two things: a brief comparison of key elements in both stories and the conclusions of the Masonic authorities in Masonic source-writings.

b. A Brief Comparison of the Legends of Hiram Abiff and Osiris
The fundamental similarity between the two stories may be seen in many respects; the following are some of the most important:
(1) Both men went to foreign lands to share their knowledge of arts and sciences.
(2) In both legends there is a precious thing possessed: Hiram has the secret word; Osiris has the kingdom.
(3) In both legends there is a wicked conspiracy by evil men to seize the precious thing.
(4) In both legends there is a struggle and a murder of the virtuous leader.
(5) Both are murdered by their brothers (Osiris by Typhon; Hiram by Jubelum, his brother Mason).
(6) Both bodies are buried hastily, with the intention of a later, deliberate burial.
(7) Locations of the bodies are both marked by Acacia at the head.
(8) In both legends, there are two separate searches for the bodies.
(9) In both legends there is a loss of something precious: in Hiram's death, the secret word is lost; in Osiris' death, the phallus is lost.
(10) In both there is a substitution for the precious thing that has been lost; concerning Hiram it is the substitute for the secret word; concerning Osiris it is the substitute phallus.

c. Conclusions of the Masonic Authorities
A few statements from the most authoritative Masonic writers will suffice to express the doctrinal consensus:
(1) "The legend and traditions of Hiram Abiff form the consummation of the connecting link between Freemasonry and the Ancient Mysteries." (Pierson, "Traditions of Freemasonry," p. 159)
(2) "We readily recognize in Hiram Abiff the Osiris of the Egyptians…" (Pierson, p. 240)
(3) "Osiris and the Tyrian Architect (Hiram Abiff) are one and the same." (Sickles, Daniel, "Freemason's Guide." p. 236)
(4) "That part of the rite (Master Mason initiation) which is connected with the legend of the Tyrian Artist (Hiram Abiff)…should be studied as a myth and not as a fact…outside of Masonic tradition there is no proof that an event such as is related in connection with the "Temple Builder" ever transpired and, besides, the ceremony is older by more than a thousand years than the age of Solomon… It is thoroughly Egyptian." (Sickles, Daniel, "The Ahiman Rezon," p. 195)
(5) It (the Legend of Hiram Abiff) is thoroughly Egyptian, and is closely allied to the Supreme Rite (highest degree) of the Isianic Mysteries (Mystery religion of Isis and Osiris)." (Mackey, Albert, "Lexicon of Freemasonry," p. 195)

CONCLUSION
Thus, it seems clear, the Hiram Abiff of Freemasonry is not an historical character and certainly not a biblical one. Rather, he actually represents Osiris, the Egyptian Sun-god, and the reenactment of the Legend of Hiram Abiff is actually the reenactment of the legend of Isis and Osiris.

Thus, each sincere man who is initiated into the Third (Master Mason) Degree of Masonry impersonates Osiris, the Sun-god of Egypt, and enters into his life of good deeds, his death, his burial and is "raised" in his resurrection from the dead. With this understood, it is then easy to understand the statement in the Kentucky Monitor (handbook for all Blue Lodge Masonry in the Grand Lodge of Kentucky) that, while the Christian's Messiah is called Jesus, the Mason's Messiah is called Hiram (Kentucky Monitor, "the Spirit of Masonry," xv).

(1) It puzzles me that no one has questioned the necessity for a "substitute" for the lost Grand Masonic Word. If it was lost at the death of Hiram because only he knew it, then why, when Hiram was raised back to life, didn't Solomon just ask him what the real, original one was? All Solomon needed to do was say something like, "Hiram…praise the Lord that you are no longer dead! Now what was that word all this fuss has been about?"
(2) I Kings 7:13-47
(3) I Chronicles 17;1-15; 22:11-29:9 (especially 28:19)
SOURCE: THE DEADLY DECEPTION
James Shaw & Tom McKenney, Huntington House Inc., Lafayette, LA, 1988, Appendix B, pp. 142-144.
http://watch.pair.com/symbol.html

Very interesting in itself, but a lot more so when read in relation to the following.

“Osiris a Corn God – The foregoing survey of myth and ritual of Osiris may suffice to prove that in one of the aspects the god was a personification of the corn, which may be said to die and come back to life again every year. Through all the pomp and glamour with which in later times the priests had invested his worship, the conception of him as the corn god comes clearly out in the festival of his death and resurrection, which was celebrated in the month of Khoiak and at a later period in the month of Athyr. That festival appears essentially to be a festival of sowing, which properly fell at the time when the husbandman actually committed the seed to the earth.

The story that his mangled remains were scattered up and down the land and buried in different places may be a mythical way of expressing either the sowing or the winnowing of the grain. The latter interpretation is supported by the tale that Isis placed the severed limbs of Osiris on a corn sieve. Or more probably the legend may be reminiscence of a custom of slaying a human victim, perhaps a representative of the corn spirit and distributing his flesh or scattering his ashes over the fields to fertilise them. In modern Europe the figure of Death is sometimes torn in pieces, and the fragments are then buried in the ground to make the crops grow well, and in other parts of the world the human victims are treated in the same way. With regard to the ancient Egyptians we have it on the authority of Manetho that they used to burn red haired men and scatter their ashes with winnowing fans, and it is highly significant that this barbarous sacrifice was offered by the kings at the grave of Osiris. We may conjecture that the victims represented Osiris himself, who was annually slain, dismembered, and buried in their persons that he might quicken the seed in the earth.

Possibly in prehistoric times the kings themselves played the part of the god and were slain and dismembered in that character. Set as well as Osiris is said to have been torn to pieces after a reign of eighteen days, which was commemorated by an annual festival of the same length. According to one story Romulus, the first King of Rome, was cut in pieces by the senators, who buried the fragments of him in the ground; and the traditional day of his death, the seventh of July, was celebrated with certain curious rites, which were apparently connected with the artificial fertilization of the fig. Again Greek legend told how Pentheus, king of Thebes, and Lycurgus, king of the Thracian Edonians, opposed the vine-god Dionysus, and how the impious monarchs were rent in pieces, the one by the frenzied Bacchanals, the other by horses. These Greek traditions may well be distorted reminiscences of a custom of sacrificing human beings, and especially divine kings, in the character of Dionysus,a god who resembled Osiris in many points and was said like him to have been torn limb from limb. We are told that in Chios men were rent in pieces as a sacrifice to Dionysus; and since they died the same death as their god, it is reasonable to suppose that they personated him. The story that the Thracian Lycurgus, king of the Edonians, is said to have been put to death in order that the ground, which has ceased to be fruitful, might regain its fertility.

Taken all together, these legends point to a widespread practice of dismembering the body of a king or magician and burying the pieces in different parts of the country in order to ensure the fertility of the ground and probably also the fecundity of man and beast.

To return to the human victims whose ashes the Egyptians scattered with winnowing-fans, the red hair of those unfortunates was probably significant. For in Egypt the oxen which were sacrificed had also to be red; a single black or white hair found on the beast would have disqualified it for the sacrifice. If, as I conjecture, these human sacrifices were intended to promote the growth of crops – and the winnowing of their ashes seems to support this view – red haired victims were perhaps selected as best fitted to personate the spirit of the ruddy grain. For when a god is represented by a living person, it is natural that the human representative should be chosen on the ground of his supposed resemblence to the divine original. Hence the ancient Mexicans, conceiving the maize as a personal being who went through the whole course of life between seed time and harvest, sacrificed new born babies when the maize was sown, older children when it had sprouted, and so on until it was fully ripe, when they sacrificed old men. A name for Osiris was the crop or harvest, and the ancients sometimes explained him as a personification of the corn.”
P497-500, The nature of Osiris, The Golden Bough – A Study in Magic and religion, JG Frazer,1922

[frankzappa]

Prof Griff on Ritual Sacrifices _ Occultism In Hip Hop Industry 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq9LLxoi ... re=related

Prof Griff on Ritual Sacrifices _ Occultism In Hip Hop Industry 2 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm0ph5Ln ... re=related

Prof Griff on Ritual Sacrifices _ Occultism In Hip Hop Industry 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N84rBMa4 ... re=related

[frankzappa]

Another very intersting listen.
Professor griff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5FKEye9 ... re=related

[Infinite]

I've seen those files before and i.m.o. Griff is an idiot. His accusations of murder are baseless.

[frankzappa]

Red symbolizes Masonic revolution and war, the rabbit symbolizes the aspect of feminine fertility. The Queen of pentacles as Crowley states represents the feminine aspect ‘in its most passive form’.

Women in its most passive form (e.g. stripper / whore / promiscuous) can also simultaneously represent women in her most revolutionary form if one considers the subversive potential of these forms of passivity to break up relationships, normal monogamy, or traditional morality.



Is the average western woe-man no better (or worse) than the common prostitute lining the streets of inner city England and western society? In recent months Alan has commented at length regarding woe-mans plight. He has stated:

Women will be held in common amongst men.
Women are more sexually active than men
Women will have had so many different partners at such a young age they would find it impossible to bond in any meaningful way with partners later on.

Raised on a diet of pornographic music videos, the pro anal sex diatribe ‘sex and the city (shitty)’, and actual pornography, the average woe-of-man is so spectacularly indoctrinated with the ideology of her own downfall is it even worth trying to write it down?

In the past my mother told me that when she was courting a man as a young girl it was common that she would have no other significant male contact i.e. when you get a boyfriend you have no male ‘friends’. Although shocking to the average whore minded woe-of-man in this day and age, this strategy of separating oneself from other males generated the space and intimacy in a relationship where the man and woe-of-man could bond in a spiritual, emotional and let’s not forget sexual sense. Increasingly nowadays, Woe-of-men define their independence, beauty and desirabilty in terms of how many males they can surround themselves by and sleep with, not just pre-courtship but during. This is obviously problematic to the kind of man who believes in god and monogamy and not wanting to catch AIDS or any other cocktail of unpronounceable sexually transmitted diseases most modern girls are ridden with. Women’s instincts of monogamy have been utterly subverted to the point that most young girls find the idea of childbearing, marriage and family an unholy anathema or worse cannot even conceive of the idea of staying with one man for more than a few months.

It is no surprise that the breakdown in the family unit correlates with woe of mans entry into soddom and gommorahs workhouses, offices and factorys. The entry of women into soddom and gomorahs workplaces is no more a victory for woe of men than peasantry and small holders being driven from the land into towns and factories in the industrial revolution. In the past women worked exactly as men did, for the benefit of the family unit which was irrevocably tied to child rearing, agricultural labour and handicraft, animal tending etc. Such a setup gave man and woe-of-man a very real if sparse independence. Woe-of-men were neither in direct competition with other women nor males. The average woe of man worked as hard as a man. Today women spend more of their significant waking life with males at work than with their partners or families at home. In such a situation adultery becomes rife, when adultery and cheating is promoted as a national pastime the predicament becomes even worse. Consider this alongside the comments I already stated earlier:

“We have been increasingly herded into cities since the industrial revolution which began several hundred years ago. Not only does this destroy our means of self subsistence (as discussed earlier) it also destroys the basis of reproduction. In the town and city - where the women go - the men follow out of fear of isolation. Women’s tastes and dictates have been so expertly crafted through advertisement and social policy, failure by the men to pander to such ridiculous tastes and dictates results in NO PUSSY. The idea of the woman as the noble martyr defending to the death normal monogamy, such as may be symbolized by those Christians unrepentant wives who were thrown to lions and raped as theatre in Roman times, is long gone. Increasingly as society implodes and becomes more and more dominated by deviancy and control freaks - women gravitate towards that security (sucker you’re Ity) and power, towards the men in uniform of the CAINITE nature, towards their own moral downfall. The deviancy of the power-monger and elitist becomes a desirable virtue and characteristic in potential mates”.

“Unfortunately women are the ultimate consumers and ultimate marketers (to men) of ‘The Big Lie’ as espoused by Adolf Hitler and Co. In the big shitty, sorry, city, where women wish to daydream as ferociously as Zazaban and co and imitate their sickening ‘idols’ in a never ending series of ritualistic forms of devils advocacy, the single women gravitate towards centre’s of power in the entertainment industry; night clubs, pub, fashion industry, trendy academia etc to hawk their idiocy. Herd mentality, interjected with the cult of hero worship ensues (their heroes being the psychopaths marketed to them since childhood)”.

The average women today is little more than a useless disease ridden whore, as an old Jamaican friend of mine would say - ‘a bloodclart lesbian’. And if modern woman and the average whore can both be said to perform disgusting promiscuous sexual acts, at least we can credit the average whore with having the intelligence or good sense or cunning to get financial payment during the pro-cess. The average modern woe of man gives it away for free and takes revelry in her destructive course - she is in many senses worse than a prostitute.



Young Women dress in an increasingly sexually provocative manner. Take note of the appropriately named Uhura or You a Whore (of the starship (FREE) ENTERPRISE) costume as it is a very accurate depiction of the way young woe of men dress. At the college I work at the standard attire appears to be a t-shirt and pair of tights. Though some of the 18+ girls appear very alluring, I would consider such attire more appropriate to the bedroom than the classroom. Many, many of the girls appear like little more than the proverbial teenage prostitute, impaled with rings, chains and spikes through the nose, tongue and lips.

True women and men are finished.

What is promoted as an image of femininity is in fact closer to an image of hermaprodism, not just in terms of its perverted and obscence portrayl of femininity, but that many of its leading exponents are actual hermaphrodites. Consider Nicole Kid-man (Old Nick fake Man), Fergie (Fair-Guy) and lets not forget the abominable pustulating disease vector - lady gaga (a gay g-lad). Or if you are living in England you can’t fail to be aware of Pixie (mischevious spirit) Lott (child of Lot, or incest). I would venture that many more celebrities which are promoted as female have secrets regarding childhood surgery, inbreeding and whoremoan replacement therapy.

They have laced almost everything in our environment with whoremoan destabilising chemicals which act on the body as artificial oestrogen. East – Trojan, Trojan of the east, there is everything to say in the very near future humanity will change in a very fundamentally disturbing way.



"Two fingers represents the Duad, male-female combined. The moon is on the wane, on the way out, a warning to women with eyes to see. It also means Wain - old english for a new child, guess what it will be?" Alan Watt P36 Cutting Through The Matrix Volume 1, Available from http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

The story of Adam and Eve resonates on many levels, but its modern parallel is surely that of the doomed relationship in soddom and gommorah. The garden of eden is the very temporary solace that monogamous man-woman relations bring to the spirit, satan the tempting serpent is merely the next man standing in line to defile your woman; man eating from the same tree consigns for his woman to be held in common and to engage in the same diabolical practice. Of course ‘Eve’ means literally ‘finished’ – on the way out.

To those of us with our eyes open ‘woe of man’ appears in her death throes - breathing in the last breath of true femininity, and breathing it out with the stench of a toothless whore.

[frankzappa]

Here are the missing images which were initially OK on the previous post and now not displayed.
Rabbit in Red

http://kindertrauma.com/images/misc/pub9.jpg

Baphomet

http://www.illuminati-news.com/graphics/baphomet(1).bmp

[Glad tidings, he bring]

Repent ye,
repent or perish afore 'tis too late!
Forsake your false idols and follow the light of ...Alan.
Disport yourself not of the craven temptations of the flesh.
Be not lead astray by that Jezebel, that harlot, follow Alan unto enlightenment.
Attend to the words of his worthy disciple frankzappa
And know that he who follows the word of Alan is of the elect and will not perish.
Repent, repent and be saved.

[frankzappa]

Always looking for the cheap laugh to the very bitter end...........Good luck catching AIDS.

[vaguelyhumanoid]

Very good argument, and not at all offensive to the millions of innocent people dying of HIV/AIDS around the world, who you ignore the real problems of in favor of childish conspiracies about a new world order the same as the old.

[The Barking Snail]