I was reffering more to welfare statism and healthcare than extra freedoms. I do agree though that state's tend towards restricting freedoms and growing in centralisation which is why minarchism is hopelessly utopian.

TLI,
I agree with Zaz, too, that we are all born free and equal, but almost from the moment of birth are constrained to varying degrees by social and economic differences, and the people who are there to politicize you, circumcise you, vaccinate and indoctinate you.(with apologies to Bob Dylan.)

And I do think that statelessness; no borders, no wars, (Imagine there's no countries.) will greatly improve the general human condition, but I don't think that it matters whether I choose to emphasize this, or advocate anachism "forthe wrong set of reasons." What difference does it make if simply don't want to be ruled anyone; not by well-intentioned people nor "by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so." The bottom line should be that we are on the same side. Note, also, that, for what it's worth, I have made a case that anarchism is the only logically ethical political system.

Your concept of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is flawed. My enemy is Capitalism and Government. Your enemy is just Government. The enemy of my enemy is PROBABLY my enemy.

Yeah, Patrick, I know people who say the same thing about communism. Are you shocked?

Oh my god, your one of them! seriously, how is vaccination bad?! I think my hate-o-meter has gone to the highest point it has ever reached and I've talked to howie!

Then why do you like capitalism so much? Or are you just hoping that you'll become CEO?

and i can't help but think the same when i see 'free will'. in fact, 'free will' is a metaphysical claim. no, worse, a magical claim. sheer fucking magic.

are you guys STILL feeding the trolls?

You're probably right, Andy, that vaccinations are usually good, but I have my doubts about Big Pharm and flu vaccinations.

Determinism is no better though.

What are you all on about? Wernt we talking about something else? Just ignore the trolls.

Oh thats right! You're all trolls! Because none of you are anarchist. You're all shit.

I'll say you're good when you're good. Ok you are good!

What. ofcourse i thought you were always good.

But lets achieve more. Not that we havn't achieved anything. But, i'll stop myself now.

I'll continue later.

Continueing.

Ok we were talking about anarchism and what it is. um. thats all i got again. Sometimes i just have to stop typeing.

It's a false dichotomy (and no, I'm not alluding to "compatibilism," that transparently desperate grasping at straws). But moreover, that word just stinks. It implies a will, which it merely offloads from Man onto the Universe. I'd rather speak of causal chains, but as long as it's understood that by "determinism" we don't mean anything silly, then I can roll with it. Not so "free will," which is so abjectly ridiculous that I can't even countenance it. Anyway, yeah, most objections to determinism boil down to quibbles over language, which are unfortunate but unavoidable, since language is merely a clunky attempt to draw pictures in other people's minds. As such, the word is suitable.

Why would I be shocked? why would I care? I'm not a communist.

Don't worry about those last posts i made, i'm sorry for making them.