Noam Chomsky: Anarchist?

[Superdog]

thanks for that link.

Chomsky’s aim is in effect anarchy, but not yet.

in other words, a gatekeeper.

Is gatekeepr a hip new pejorative these days?

[ambi]

Is gatekeepr a hip new pejorative these days?

actually, it means something.

i'd say "hip" is the hip new pejorative.

[Superdog]

Is gatekeepr a hip new pejorative these days?

actually, it means something.

i'd say "hip" is the hip new pejorative.

[ambi]

So ya wanna dump out yo' trick bag.
Ease on in a hip thang,
But you ain't exactly sure what is hip.

So you started to let your hair grow.
Spent big bucks on your wardrobe.
Somehow, ya know there's much more to the trip.

(refrain #1)
What is hip?
Tell me, tell me, if you think you know.
What is hip?
If you're really hip,
the question, "Will it show?"
You're into a hip trip.
Maybe hipper than hip.
What is hip?
{ Trumpet solo/guitar solo }
(refrain #1 ends)

You became a part of a new breed.
Been smokin' only the best weed.
Hangin' out with the so called "Hippie set."

Seen in all the right places.
Seen with just the right faces.
You should be satisfied, but it ain't quite right.

{ refrain #1 }

Come on!

(refrain #2)
Hipness is. What it is!
Hipness is. What it is!
Hipness is. What it is!
Sometimes hipness is, what it ain't.
(end refrain #2)

{ guitar solo }

You went an' found you a guru.
In an effort to find you a new you,
And maybe even raise your conscious level.

While you're striving to find the right road,
There's one thing you should know,
"What's hip today, might become passe'."

{ refrain #1 }

{ Trumpet solo }

Think about it y'all.

{ keyboard solo }

{ refrain #2 }

What is hip?
Ahhhhhhhhh!
What is hip?
I'd like to know!
What is hip?
Is it in the style of your hair?
What is hip?
Is it in the clothes that you wear?
What is hip?
I'd like to know.
What is hip?
I'd like to know.
What is hip?
What is hip y'all? Hey!
What is hip?
Hey! Oh!
What is hip?
What is hip y'all?
What is hip?
I wanna know.
What is hip?
Ahhhhhhh!
What is hip?
I wanna know what hipness is.

[technopragma]

thanks for that link.

Chomsky’s aim is in effect anarchy, but not yet.

in other words, a gatekeeper.

Does this make Chomsky a Marxist?

[ambi]

he's an errand boy...sent by grocery clerks...

[African_Prince]

I've heard that he has a very anti-libertarian view on pornography although I haven't heard it myself.

I disagree with him when he says that autority is sometimes justified. It may sometimes be necessary (ie. when it comes to children or domesticated, non-human animals) but it's never 'legitimate'. A relationship where one being has power and control over the other contradicts the idea that all sentient beings (or human beings, if you don't believe in animal rights) are equal. Individuals should decide for themselves what their best interests are and even if they really would be better off with an authority figure, power doesn't legitimize itself and you're still depriving them of the self-autonomy that you enjoy. Noam Chomsky says that the onus is on those who claim authority to legitimize it but it can never be legitimized because there is no empirical, objective "proof" that someone is justified in exercising authority over someone else. Deciding when authority is or isn't appropriate is subjective and arbitrary and the opinions of 1000 individuals don't outweigh the opinion of 1 individual.

[thelastindividual]

Noam Chomsky was the first factor in me becoming an anarchist. He was the first person I ever heard talking about anarchism with this quiet considered air and it made me take anarchism seriously. The second factor was Crass

[jack]

There's nothing "anti-libertarian" about that. It's his personal views, he isn't stepping on the "right" of porn performers, he is saying they are exploited and even moreso than the average laborer.

Of course, with the abolishion of the market system, the porn industry is destroyed. Other than those "home movies" of people who participate because they completely want to, not for any economic incentive.

[African_Prince]

There's nothing "anti-libertarian" about that. It's his personal views, he isn't stepping on the "right" of porn performers, he is saying they are exploited and even moreso than the average laborer.

Of course, with the abolishion of the market system, the porn industry is destroyed. Other than those "home movies" of people who participate because they completely want to, not for any economic incentive.

1) If the porn industry is exploitative, all of the workers involved in the porn industry are exploited, including the cameramen, makeup people, male pornstars etc., not just the female pornstars (who, by the way, are paid much more than the aforementioned) so I see no reason why the porn industry should be singled out as being particularly exploitative, 2) in a cash-less society, humans could still have sex for favors or goods (it isn't uncommon for non-human females to trade sex for food or protection) and 3), a large amount of porn is amateur porn or homemade videos. Chomsky never actually said that he had less of an issue with homemade porn, I don't know why you're making this assumption and he clearly has not presented his anti-porn diatribe as a 'personal view'.

Women in sweatshops (his comparison to Western adult film actresses) have no choice but to work in exploitative conditions because their only other option is to starve to death, the overwhelming majority of women who perform in adult videos are not doing so because they have no access to any other kind of employment. The idea that sex is inherently humiliating and degrading towards women is so ridiulously childish and stupid, men and women are sexual beings and Chomsky likely has nothing to say in regards to those men who pose half-naked or are presented as sex symbols in tv shows, movies, magazines etc. It is frightening how someone can be so sure of themselves when their opinion makes such little sense. I cannot take any of his views seriously after this, it's har to believe that secular people still have such archaic, religiocetric attitudes about sex in the 21st century.

What's anti-libertarian is arbitrarily deciding which kind of sexual behavior is appropriate or inappropriate if the parties involved aren't infringing upon your rights in any way. It isn't "true" that, without an applied emotional context, sex is anything more than a biological function. This is a cultural idea, one that stems from authoritarian values intended to restrict and tame human sexuality.

[Zazaban]

I'd argue if other film genres that aren't 'homemade' still exist, non-homemade porn will continue to exist too. Unless you're arguing for a society in which all film is incredibly grassroots. Which I'd personally find rather hard to stand.

[|Y|]

Camwhores will fill in the need for such pornography. They're not going away post-revolution. The vast majority of good porn out there is amateur stuff, anyway. Give people free access to HD cameras that can be easily operated and you'd be surprised how much stuff gets made.

It just won't have many fat slobs getting fucked by cute attractive ladies, is all. Though there's undoubtedly even a fetish for that.

[Zazaban]

Ah, camwhores. The most under appreciated people in the universe.

[jack]

I almost starred as the penis in gloryhole porn.....

[|Y|]

Ah, camwhores. The most under appreciated people in the universe.

I wasn't being sexist (and I don't think you were either), but there is some sort of "attention deficit disorder" in our current societies teenage girls and young adults. I don't see "celebritism" going away *any time soon*.

I would not call this a disorder, however.

I used to be friends with a threeple (three person couple) who posted images of themselves having sex. They were extremely popular in the early 2000s (if you were around slashdot at the time their stuff would get posted). They were furries though and pretty much immediately got maligned when this came out, and disappeared into obscurity when people were posting their real life info online. Very attractive (if enlightened) group of friends though.