Racist Anarchists?!

[Zazaban]

How is what i said annoying?

You don't use enough seductive, lustful language.

[Insecuritykiller]

Zazaban, you are much too kind to me.


thank you. kiss.

[Zazaban]

Zazaban, you are much too kind to me.


thank you. kiss.

Much better.

[coup-detat]

I think what you were saying InsecurityKiller was quite intelligent no matter what Crustanarchy thinks.

[Crustanarchy]

Dude his ideas change with the weather. I think everyone is intelligent in some way.

[African_Prince]

An anarchist who advocates discrimination against a racial or ethnic group or dominating them in any way is being inconsistent. An anarchist who is simply prejudiced against outgroup members without harming or misreating them in any way is not being inconsistent. You can dislike someone without regarding/treating them as your inferior.

[libertaris]

An anarchist who advocates discrimination against a racial or ethnic group or dominating them in any way is being inconsistent. An anarchist who is simply prejudiced against outgroup members without harming or misreating them in any way is not being inconsistent. You can dislike someone without regarding/treating them as your inferior.

wow...what are you saying?? We have been educated in a racist system. With the analogy of the sexism, we all have sexist actitudes inside our minds. We have to work against this racial and sexist education if you are against it.

How could yo work in a comunity if you dislike someone only because is from other country, just because their features are different?. The races have not biological consistence. If you dislike anybody just because of any different feature, sure you should work on it.

... And don´t make me talk about the slavering for the imperialism. First we use people as slaves from other countries, and plunder their resources, and then we throw them away. Nonsense, completely nonsense...

(sorry about any mistake in the text, english is not my mother tongue )

[Guest]

i see you've met our resident black racist. we have a white one, too, called 'insecuritykiller'. we tolerate them to show them what tolerance looks like, but we don't take them seriously. they are quite vile.

[Guest]

An anarchist who is simply prejudiced against outgroup members without harming or mistreating them in any way is not being inconsistent. You can dislike someone without regarding/treating them as your inferior.

can you dislike someone without treating them as your inferior? i'm not so sure. apparently prejudice includes 'any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence'- unreasonable as in unaffected by reason. besides, if you feel that someone IS inferior, that's all there is to it, i would think.

for example, i dislike IK. that's not prejudice, because i only have issue with certain actions and behaviours. if his behaviour were to suggest the offending ideas were no longer present, i would like him.

[Insecuritykiller]

Don't worry it's only one website forum. I like what african prince said heaps. It's very important for anarchism. He's smart.

Showing you all up for what you all are. A bunch of zombies. You took no notice of the brillance of what he said beyond the amount of disgust you showed. Which was a compliment to it i guess after all. But you should be more clear about how you feel.

Saying anyone could be hurt by racism or sexism, is racist and sexist.

[Guest]

Saying anyone could be hurt by racism or sexism, is racist and sexist.

how so?

[Zazaban]

Saying anyone could be hurt by racism or sexism, is racist and sexist.

how so?

Don't tempt him. Everything IK says is hindsprechen.

[African_Prince]

Ah, National Anarchism rears its ugly head again. These people are hilarious. I recall hearing about them getting beat up once when they showed up at an anarchist book fair.

I've yet to hear an intelligent argument as to why ethnic nationalism necessarily contradicts the principles of anarchism. How someone who claims to be opposed to authority and dominance can justify beating someone up is beyond me.

As I've said before, most "anarchists" are full of shit.

[thelastindividual]

I've yet to hear an intelligent argument as to why ethnic nationalism necessarily contradicts the principles of anarchism.

Let's see if I can give it a shot.

Now, if I understand correctly, the basic principles of 'ethnic nationalism' are that 'nations' are defined in terms of ethnicity and that ethnic groups have the right to self-dermination.

So imagine I set up an 'ethnic nationalist' village or whatever in an anarchist society and only let blue eyed blondes into the community. Now imagine that one day one of the women in the the village takes a nearby trip to an ethnically diverse commune and has unprotected sex with a black man. 9 months later she gives birth to a mixed race child.

What happens now though? The only options as far as I can see are:

(a) Use coercion/threat of violence etc to force the woman and her child out of the community and violate the principles of anarchism.

(b) Allow the mother and the child to stay and treat them as regular members of the community thus violating the principles of ethnic nationalism.

Choose wisely A_P.

[Guest]

i hate to play devil's advocate for racist scum, but one response might be that it is assumed that the members of the 'anarcho'-racist 'community' (even calling it a community sounds wrong somehow) will agree not to go mixing their 'superior' blood with that of 'inferior' races (i feel silly even speaking of race as though it actually existed, but i'm bored). most of the advocates of this monstrous system probably never think beyond that. why would anyone of a 'superior' race want to produce 'inferior' offspring? it's basically unthinkable to them, so they don't think about it. (and before a_p denies it, their system *is* based on the notion of superior/inferior; there's no reason to prefer sticking with 'your own' unless you find them somehow superior, even if only aesthetically.)

but, perhaps the more serious ones will countenance the possibility that someone might stray. in that case they might respond that the race-traitor would be scorned until their shame compels them to leave of their own volition, which, to be fair, seems acceptable from an anarchist perspective. members of the racist 'community' would learn that if they value their 'friends' (can such monsters really be capable of forming friendships, much less loving relationships? seems doubtful), they better not taint their pristine blood.

in any case, even though it may be workable, it's still not anarchist, because hierarchy exists: it's just that the bottom rung of their hierarchy has been denied the right to even exist in their 'community'. it's ultra-hierarchy. whereas it seems to me that a proper anarchist community would be completely open to admitting anyone and treating them as equals, even hypotheticals like space aliens. not so with 'anarcho'-racism; they have a defacto hierarchy of the most vicious kind.