Guest wrote:Vegans dont eat meat primarily because they consider it will be benefitial for THEIR health.
It's been mentioned before that there both health and moral reasons people choose vegetarianism over omnivorianism. Buddhist monks versus members of an organization devoted to the treatment of animals, for example.
That said, a properly omnivorous diet is heathier than a vegetarian one, since we lack the capacity to properly digest all but the most basic of plant matter. Especially if one takes in a raw vegan diet, were even fewer vitamins and minerals are digested.
I also want to mention that cows raised in healthy and happy environments have healthier and more nutritious meat. Less fat. cholestrol, and such. Stress has an enormous impact on the chemical composition of a living creature.
Guest wrote:Plants also are LIVING things and yes they have FEELINGS, it is a biological fact.
Are plants as living things less worthy than animals? Is a hyacinth flower uglier than a pig? is it cuter? I think it is.
Why are vegans authoritarian towards plants? Do you know how beautifull and sensitive sunflower is? Have you been in a sunflower field around dusk time? It's touching. But you are advocating that we cut them and make margarine and oil. Sunflowers are sensitive to light, air, sounds, radiations of various types - as animals are. So my friends, how does killing sunflower not rate in the same category as killing a pig? Because you don't hear it scream? If someone here understands russian i'll recomend few books about plants and the way experiments were done in the former USSR. Yes they definitely feel. And scream.
Is there something peculiar about living in the West. The more i use the net the more i'm inclined to think so.
I've done a tiny bit of reading about plant consciousness as well. I believe a consciousness does exist, if not in the same form we experience first as animals and then as human beings. The fact is, this world is built upon suffering. The Gnostic Christians believed they could escape it by committing suicide by starvation. All we (the somewhat sane ones) can really do at this point in time is try to minimize our impact as much as possible. There are ways to do that without depriving ourselves of meat should we be so inclined.