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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:23 am

According to some sources he/she isnt, but this persistent rumour has continued for decades and has never been conclusively proved either way. Of all the major celebs, Jaime Lee Curtis is the only one to have been singled-out with this accusation to any extent (over 100,000 hits on google).

"As already hinted, the actress Jamie Lee Curtis is very frequently cited as an example of a women with AIS, although this is certainly not confirmed there does appear to be an unusual amount of "smoke" in this particular instance. Every time a medical study hints that that unnamed famous actress has AIS, Jamie is always associated. One report [which I can no longer find] specifically stated that she was born with Partial AIS (Grade 3), in which case she would have required plastic surgery similar to that undergone by MTF transsexuals to normalise her genitalia as female and create a neo-vagina (Jamie's two children are both adopted)."
http://transwoman.tripod.com/ais.htm

In recent times Jamie Lee certainly appears more androgyne than female to my eyes.

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With other hermapRHODITE celebs coming out of the closet nowadays, Lady Gaga for example, it is not particularly difficult to believe. Her character name (StRHODE) in Halloween is a major clue, as I have already pointed out.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:48 am

"You know you can barely see stalin in that picture right?"

Apologies, here is a better version.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Yezhov.jpg

"Ever noticed how many of these pictures are not actually photographs but paintings? There is no proof that the people in those portraits ever made those gestures. For all we know the painters themselves were freemasons".

On the first page of the outlaw forum there are 23 paintings and 24 photographs. So world leaders are subservient to a cabal of Masonic photographers and painters?! Its one explanation, Ill grant you that, but a very poor one indeed!
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby AndyMalroes » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:01 pm

‘cold right hand’ seems a remarkably epidemic affliction amongst revolutionary leaders.

It is when you live in Freakin' Cold Russia.
How long do you think we can have a free and democratic society if we insist on maintaining totalitarian systems in our companies? We must have freedom for individuals and organizations to grow and to realize their potentials.
(Delmar Landen, Head of Organisational Development at General Motors, 1981)
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:52 am

Andrei, I will not dignify that pathetic response with a reply.

Grand Orient Freemason Lenin wrote most intelligently on the subject of the diabolical League of Nations (LON – Abbreviation for Lion) the Masonic precursor to the monolithic UN, and the first prototype for open world government. The quote lays bare Lenin’s brand of internationalism as opposed to that of international capital in phraseology only, though he is extremely accurate in his analysis.

“In view of the irreconcilable antagonisms finding expression within the entente itself, the League of Nations (should it be formalized) will merely play the role of a Holy Alliance of the capitalists for the suppression of the workers revolution. Propagandizing for the League of Nations is the best way to confuse the revolutionary consciousness of the working class. It replaces the slogan of an international of revolutionary workers republics with the slogan of an international alliance of ostensible democracies, supposedly to be achieved through a coalition between the proletariat and the borgeouis classes.

The “League of Nations” is a misleading slogan that the social traitors in the service of international capital use to split the forces of the proletariat and advance the imperialist counterrevolution.

In every country of the world, the revolutionary proletariat must resolutely combat the Wilsonian concept of the League of Nations and protest entry into this league of plunder, exploitation, and imperialist counterrevolution”.
P216 Lenin - The International Situation and the Policy of the Entente, Founding the Communist international – Proceedings and documents of the First Congress: March 1919, Pathfinder books, 1987.

It is one thing to say something - it is another to mean it. Early communist Russia (circa the period when Lenin and Trotsky were still agitating) denounced international capital on one side and bowed and scraped to it on the other. Supported the ‘revolutionary proletariat’ when it was of advantage to bolshevism and ignored them at other times. As the focus from raising the red banner worldwide by, and in the name of the international proletariat, shifted increasingly to the Stalinist policy of ‘socialism in one country’ Russia’s outright public hostility to international capital increasingly sought reconciliation.

Of course, the public policy of hostility to international capitalism was always an enormous, most treacherous lie. The bolshevick revolution was funded and sustained by international capital (primarily from America) from its very inception. Nothing indicates more the distancing of the soviet state from even paying lip service to any kind of genuine concept of “an international of revolutionary workers republics” than the soviet union actually jumping into bed with, and joining the unholy alliance of the LON in 1934.

“Their dreams of world revolution had long vanished. Their greatest fear was in the far east where – with Japan and Manchuria and at peace with China – they seemed in imminent danger of a Japanese attack. The best Soviet troops were in the far East, and the soviet leaders asked of Europe only to be left alone. Where once they had denounced ‘the slave treaty’ of Versailles, they now preached respect for international law; loyally attended the disarmament conference – formerly a ‘bourgeois sham’; and in 1934 even joined that other bourgeois sham, the League of Nations”. P109, A.J.P. Taylor, The Origins of the Second World War, Penguin Publishing, 1963.

We can be thankful that the Leninist vision of the international workers republic never saw the light of day and that the building of the tyrannical state machinery which Stalin utilized so ruthlessly, and which Lenin and Trotsky bare almost sole responsibility for, has smeared most aspects of Leninist and Trotskyite politics forever.

Lenin and Trotsky also nominally stood in opposition to the “petty borgeouis reformism” of the crown charted, Rockerfella sponsored, ‘Fabian society’ (who had no such problems working with the LON at its inception) but ultimately (as always appears to be the case where freemasonry is concerned) the goal of both bolshevism and Fabianism were the same, the only difference being in terms of timescale. Fabians believe their vision of ‘socialism’ could only be achieved through gradual reforms over a long period of time, bolshevism held that a universal revolutionary short-term transformation was possible – the goal was the same. It is ridiculous that Lenin and co could denounce the Fabians, but at the same time give them, and other aristocrats, and statesmen red carpet tours of post October Russia.

Alan Watt claimed in a recent broadcast that Trotsky complained of the hypocriscy of giving red carpet treatment to such dignitaries and aristocrats at the time. This may be true, but Trotsky was heavily involved in this type of ‘International relations’ himself. In one of my earlier posts I quoted RBH Lockheart, the Mason (and toe-rag) representative of the British state, who accompanied Trotsky on his purge of the anarchists. Trotsky found no such contradiction, no ‘class antagonisms’, on escorting English aristocratic civil servants on a pigeon shoot of anarchists!

Not only this, the connection between Leninism and crown charted Fabianism is well established long before October 1917, as Lenin’s first English to Russian translation was Fabian founders Beatrice (Potter) and Sidney Webbs “History of Trade Unionism” which Lenin produced in what can only be described as luxurious exile. The Fabian society, led by the Webbs, which must be recognized as a very serious and influential branch of Masonic fuckeries, caught many innocents in their ‘web’ of lies and deceit. Sidney and Beatrice were the main ‘left’ promulgators of Stalinist lies and deception to the working politically active masses of the west. Their publication of ‘Soviet Communism’ was arguably the biggest whitewash in the history of mankind. Historically, far from being a wasted effort, it was a very important publication in terms of neutralizing what may have amounted to any serious opposition to Stalinism (and its support by the west), not only did the publication fail to mention the tens of millions (perhaps more) of peasants and workers slaughtered in the name of ‘historical necessity’, but proposed Stalin’s nightmarish state capitalism as a perfect model for the future world.

“It was in the 1930s, just when the Soviet system was in its very worst phase, that major validation of the enormous set of falsifications with which this was concealed came from the first time from Western academics of the highest standing.
The stars were, of course, Sidney and Beatrice Webb, the deans of Western Social Science, leaders of the Fabian society, founder’s of the London School of Economics…

The Webb’s book, seen as the last word in serious Western Scholarship, ran to over 1200 pages, representing a vast amount of toil and research, all totally wasted. It was originally entitled Soviet Communism: A New Civilization?, but the question mark was triumphantly removed in the second edition – which appeared in 1937 at precisely the time the regime was in its worst phase of gloomy, all embracing terror.

Their view of what they reckoned as the exile of a million-odd families of “kulaks” was that “the soviet government could hardly have acted otherwise”, and indeed that “strong must have been the faith and resolute the will of the men who, in the interest of what seemed to them the public good, could take such a decision.” When it comes to the (enforced) famine, they say there was merely some local food shortage – due, anyhow, to “sabotage” by the peasant population. On the faked Moscow Trials, they take the view that the confessions of the accused were due to their “behaving naturally and sensibly, as Englishmen would were they not virtually compelled by their highly artificial legal system to go through a routine which is useful to the accused only when there is some doubt as to the facts,” and that western observers at the trials were convinced that the confessions proved genuine conspiracies , and that their reading of the transcript gave the same impression. They advance a “detailed and philosophical interpretation” – to the effect that conspiracies were known in England and France some centuries ago, that Russian revolutionaries were by nature plotters, and that Lenin had predicted in 1922 that for a long time to come there would be doubts, uncertainty, suspicion and treachery – a “forecast”, they added, “which was borne out by the evidence in the Moscow trials of 1937.” They argue that after revolutions “little intellectual freedoms on fiercely controversial subjects was apt to be allowed,” citing the fact that for several generations after the English revolution of 1688, Catholics had no electoral rights. Not quite the same thing as mass executions, one may think”
P124-125, Reflections on a Ravaged Century, Robert Conquest, John Murray Publishing, 1999

By its very nature Freemasonry abounds ON ALL SIDES, and it must be recognized that hope is a very rare commodity indeed.

Italy’s revolutionary period before Musolinis dictatorship contains some of the greatest writings on the relationship between freemasonry and fascism. Bolshevism, considered as another form of fascism could have been fought by the organized oppressed masses in Russia as the situation degenerated, as some Anarchists argued at the time. This is the reason why, like it or not, revolution is necessary if some kind of fight may be organized against freemasonry and its bitch – left/right fascism. The logic behind this thinking, is somewhat twisted and Machiavellian, but it is better than no hope at all.

“The fascist method of defending order, property and the state tends, even more than the traditional system of compromises and left policies, to shatter social cohesion and the political superstructures which go with it. The reactions which it provokes must be examined in relation to its application in both the economic and political field.

In the political field, first of all, the organic unity of the bourgeoisie in Fascism was not achieved immediately after the winning of power. Centres of borgeouis opposition to the regime remain outside fascism.

Fascism is compelled to struggle very fiercely against these surviving groups, and to struggle even more fiercely against freemasonry, which it rightly considers as the organizing centre of all the traditional forces supporting the state. This struggle, which is a sign in the break of the bloc of conservative and anti-proletarian forces, whatever the intentions, may in certain circumstances favor the development and self assertion of the proletariat as a third and decisive factor of the political situation.”
P148 – 149, Antonio Gramsci, Writings on Fascist reaction 1924-1926, A Gramsci Reader, Lawrence and Wiseheart Publishing, 1988.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:13 am

Read (another Grand Orient Freemason) Bukharin’s deranged fascist spew on communist educational philosophy (and other topics) in “The ABC of communism” and the individual must surely recognize, that at this late stage in the game, this educational principle - the right of the Fascist state to recognize itself as the sole authority and indoctrinator of the child, now resides at the heart of the vast majority of schools worldwide.

“In bourgeois society, the child is regarded as the property of its parents – if not wholly, at least to a major degree. When parents say, ‘My daughter’, ‘My Son’ the words do not simply imply the existence of a parental relationship, they also give expression to the parents view that they have a right to educate their own children. From the socialist outlook, no such right exists. The individual human being does not belong to himself, but to society, to the human race. The individual can only live and thrive owing to the existence of society. The child therefore belongs to the society in which it lives, and thanks to which it came into being – this society is something wider than the ‘society’ of its own parents. To society, likewise, belongs the primary and basic right of educating children. From this point of view, the parents claim to bring up their own children and thereby to impress upon the children’s psychology their own limitations, must not merely be rejected, but must be absolutely laughed out of court. Society may entrust the education of children to the parents; but it may refuse to do anything of the kind; and there is all the more reason why society should refuse to entrust education to the parents, seeing that the faculty of educating children is far more rarely encountered than the faculty of begetting them. Of one hundred mothers, we shall perhaps find one or two who are competent educators. The future belongs to social education. Social education will make it possible for socialist society to train the coming generation most successfully, at lowest cost, and with the least expenditure of energy.”

“The social education of children, therefore, must be realized for other reasons besides those of pedagogy”. P287, Bukarhin and Preobrazhensky, The Unified Labour School, The ABC of Communism, 1922.

What a world we live in to be subject to such insane Masonic wisdom. Bukharin is unabashed in his Orwellian fascist absolutism, all in the grand name of ‘society’.

The soviet education structure was complicated, and a significant part of its mandate derived from the farcical soviet committee structure (which Bertrand Russell expressed token scorn at). The enforcement of groupthink through committees was most effective on a community wide basis and gave everyone a (big brothers watching you type) interest and say in every others affair. For example Bertrand Russell complained of the absurdity of committees composed of cleaners and the like being given equal input and feedback to Math’s lecturers in the newly formulated soviet union.

As a teacher with some experience of different state schools, I can testify that today there are ample tales of cleaners, secretaries and the like being given almost life and death powers over the style and content of teachers lessons without having the slightest knowledge of the subject themselves. Observations by cross party committees and accompanying ‘feedback’ are scheduled on such frequent basis to ensure that the teacher lives in a perpetual state of fear.

My own subject, Mathematics, has been destroyed. The government has placed an increasing emphasis on what is called “functional skills” which can only be described along Bukharin’s utilitarian communist principle of “efficiency”.

This means for example, if I talk about rectangle properties, I must use practical “work skills” based examples such as how to estimate areas, calculate perimeter’s etc, I must not go of on a tangent, or express an interest in the areas of maths that do not have direct work based or social applications. Such an approach heavily mitigates against the concept of abstraction on the part of the student and against independent enquiry into the deeper aspects of the subject. The actual content of mathematics becomes smaller and smaller as the level of utilitarian “work based skills” and brainwashing increases.

Let us not forget for a second that the states self-perceived authority as sole executor of the childs will and purpose is based on a deep and dark addiction to child sexual abuse as much as brainwashing.

Ex army are offered free teacher training in the UK and other countries. As much as an excuse to bring even more nutcases and psycopaths into the Educational system, it is also another way for them to widen their access to children to sexually abuse them. Other Masonic institutions besides the army and police have ever widening access and influence within schools. Masonic charitable concerns are behind the thumbscanning technology, behind the moves to sexually ‘liberate’ your children and behind all the moves to turn your child into a ‘brownshirt’, or more appropriately a ‘greenshirt’. If I had children, I wouldn’t let a freemason within a hundred yards of them, yet across nations parents are completely ignorant that Masonic pedophiles are consolidating their control over the school system at almost every level.

Those teachers (very few indeed) who can see the stasi rising are terrified to do anything about this state of affairs because they are scared of what the consequences will be. I got a record number of complaints from disruptive student’s parents who were not prepared to take responsibility for their children’s behavior. Most parents are only too happy to surrender their childs rights and responsibilities away to the state.

I went home at the end of each day terrified that I had said something which could be taken the wrong way and get me into more trouble. It was very interesting that when I tried to provide my own amenities and services for the children that the other teachers would shun me very quickly. The vast majority of teachers could not care less about the children just the paycheck.

As I am unemployed again I have noticed several schools are using the children as part of the recruitment procedure, so you have to sit there and squirm in front of a panel of children while they judge your responses to questions on gay rights, the environment and your overall dedication to the WORLD FASCIST STATE.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:55 am

Please take the time to listen to Alan's most recent broadcast (see below).

If you appreciate Alan Watt's work you should buy his books Cutting
Through The Matrix Volumes 1, 2 and 3. Available from Alan at:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

They are an indispensible anti-dote to freemasonrys poisoning of the soul.
A guide for the intelligent person that gives a fuck, in a world which clearly
does not.

All the information expounded upon in the 'cutting through' series can be
verified in numerous scholarly sources. At the core of Alans 'Cutting Through'
are his feelings of Horror and revulsion at babylons creation and our increasing
degeneration. Despite the horror contained within 'cutting through' Alan
maintains some form of a sense of humor - if you dont laugh you will cry.

Personally, I have found a wealth of leads in Alans works which have provoked
further study, some of the results of which are displayed within these pages.

Aug. 25, 2009
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
Ecology -- Eugenics Covers for Depopulation Lovers:

"Study the Religion of Ecology,
Masquerading as Science, Makes No Apology,
A Political Movement under Cloak of Green,
The Eugenics Society with Their Dream
Of Culling the Herd Without a Fight,
By Dumbing the Masses, the End's in Sight,
With Their Advisors Over Every Government,
Agenda being Implemented for Furtherment
Towards Their Golden Age when We are Gone,
A World for Elitists, Fittest and Strong"
***Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - Aug. 25, 2009 (Exempting Music,
Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)


http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ ... Alan_Watt_
CTTM_LIVEonRBN_393_Ecology--Eugenics_Covers_for_Depopulation
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:59 am

Apologies, this is the correct link for the show.

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/ ... 252009.mp3
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:51 am

The more one researches the nature of freemasonry the more ‘The agrarian question’ has to feature in a satisfactory analysis.

Land ownership and distribution of land amongst individuals constitutes the single biggest factor in an individual’s ability to sustain themselves independently. See my earlier post "the peasant’s ideal". At the end of the 19th century the Masses were forced into big cities. This is largely because, as Lenin stated they were bankrupted by the development of capitalism in agriculture.

At the end of the 19th century handicraft and small scale farming based largely on family enterprises constituted the single biggest economic group across the world. Such small scale farmer/peasant owner / tennant’s frequently enjoyed a far lower standard of life than agricultural labourers. What would drive small scale peasants to consciously subsist at the margins when agricultural labour would have been a far more profitable option? We can only agree with Lenin, that what fuelled the peasantry was 'property owner fanaticism' or in human terms the right to exist on a piece of land independently of the state and all other forms of economic bondage.

Back in 1899 when Lenin wrote “the agrarian question” it was clear that the peasants abilty to survive against all odds through their mastery of agriculture was considered a source of considerable frustration to the communist mindset. The proletarianisation and destruction of the peasantry was welcomed along the lines of Darwinian Eugenics.

“Like every crisis, the agrarian crisis is ruining a large number of farmers, is bringing about important changes in the established relations of property, and in some places is leading to technical retrogression, to the revival of medieval relationships and forms of economy; taken as a whole, however, it is accelerating social evolution, ejecting patriarchal stagnation from its last refuge and making necessary the further specialisation of agriculture….”
V. I. Lenin – Theory of the Agrarian question, 1899

Here is a link between Marx, Lenin and Stalin (and Trotsky) which cuts deeper than any perceived differences in policy or theory between the individuals.

Indeed, 25 years later in Russia the question was to appear in such a more marked format that its importance can be considered to be woefully neglected on several levels. Laying the foundation for the obliteration of the peasantry could be considered one of Lenins singular most important tasks. This was conducted firstly by combining the interests of the downtrodden proletariat and peasantry together, convincing the peasantry of their own obsolescence, and then sending them to serve as cannon fodder on the front in defence of the ‘socialist fatherland’.

Though bolshevics were attempting to draw the peasantry into the fold of the proletariat - remember Lenins revolutionary slogan “Bread, Land and Peace”; a slogan designed to appeal to the conciousness of the peasant as well as the worker, simultaneously the urban proletariat were attempting an exodous to the Rural areas as scavenging for food in the countryside was the only way to combat starvation.

To understand the treachery of Stalin, is to understand the treachery of Trotsky and Lenin – Freemasons All.

Each one has the same accusation leveled and falls guilty as charged – Advocacy of Slaughter of peasantry under the banner of ‘dialectical materialism’ or thier other favorite 'historical necesity'.

Though Lenin made concessions to peasantry, the reason was that the mass scale communisation and industrialization of farming methods in Rural districts did not materialize to the extent that the communists anticipated. The peasantry (at least those who were not sacrificed at the front), unlike much of the urban proletariat, remained stubbornly against communism and politically and economically independent. This manifested in the oddest (often temporary) alliances of peasantry with whites / reds / all shades of anarchists. The peasants were often at war against all sides and always for the noblest of causes – FREEDOM.

What is not often stated is that the heroic and tragic Kronstadt uprising, of which anarchists take great pride in relating to, which so very nearly turned the tables on the reds was largely conducted by peasants. Such was the force of the Krondstaters message against both bolshevism and international capital the overwhelming majority of Bolsheviks within the district of Krondstadt defected to the sailors cause. The tragedy of Krondstadt lives on as a testament to the ordinary persons will to freedom.

To usurp power from individuals they must be restricted from all means to self subsistence. In the worst kind of Macheavelian fashion the bolshevics achieved this.

Almost the whole of Lenins post October strategy was directed towards wrangling with the agrarian question in some form or another. It can be argued that Lenin certainly procrastinated on this question and left it for the other two dictators in the wings, namely Stalin and Trotsky to take up after his death.

Trotskys political maneuvering post 1917 bears every hallmark of a high league Freemason scourned. It must be understood that both Trotsky and Stalin were tipped as the USSRs future high priests to fulfill Lenins Legacy, but only one could take the crown. Trotsky and Stalin were always at war, but Lenin’s death pushed Trotsky to push the agrarian question far earlier than it was possible to implement effectively. Such stupid and premature moves by Trotsky were heavily against the popular feeling at the time, as obviously much of the proletariat were ex peasants, or related to peasants. Stalin allowed the middle and large Kulak to build up rather than building up the small peasant again, at the same time he utterly broke the already exhausted spirit of the working masses and turned them against each other Orwellian 1984 style. This allowed him to disposses all peasantry under nominal class interests later on. Trotskys error was to persue the same policy as Stalin executed successfully (ie genocide of peasantry) three or four years too early.

That Trotsky was severely aggrieved at the high Masonic elite he helped make a revolution for, but still carried a significant degree of clout with it, is beyond dispute. Trotsky and Stalins opposition to each other was at most times nominal posturing. Trotskys safe exile from Russia is a farce in itself as was his consequent globetrotting and his safe haven in Mexico - a massive Masonic hotbed – read:

MEXICAN MASONRY- POLITICS & RELIGION.
http://www.yorkrite.com/gcmx/os1999.html

Ultimately it must be concluded Trotsky bit the hand that fed him a little too hard, but at the same time became one of the biggest (false) martyr’s in history.

We know that Trotsky was aggrieved at Masonry because he was the only high level Marxist Mason to speak out against it (vociferously and venomously). To what degree we can attach any kind of humanity to these sentiments is difficult to state but Trotskys comments, like Gramscis, are some of the most important words on freemasonry on record.

Referring to the persecution of the ‘Left Opposition’ in its later manifestation by Stalin.

“This extraordinary combination of historical conditions sufficiently explains the slow organizational growth of the Left Opposition. At the same time, in spite of this slowness, the spiritual life of the Comintern revolves, today more than ever before around the struggle against Trotskyism. The theoretical periodicals and theoretical newspaper articles of the CPSU, as well as the other sections of the Comintern are chiefly devoted to the struggle against the Left Opposition, now openly, now maskedly. Still more symptomatic in significance is that mad organizational baiting which the apparatus pursues against the opposition: disruption of its meeting by blackjack methods; employment of all sorts of other physical violence; behind the scenes agreements with bourgeois pacifists, French Radicals and Freemasons against the Trotskyists; the dissemination of envenomed calumnies from the Stalinist centre, etc etc… “ P70 The Only Road for Germany, Leon Trotsky, 1932.

Also in “Trotskyism and the PSOP”

“The misfortune is that the leaders of the PSOP have not broken “courageously” with social patriotism, for they have not broken with Freemasonry, that important reservoir of imperialist patriotism. The other day I received the excellent pamphlet of Pierre Bailly Yes, Freemasonry Is a Danger. Rejecting all psychological and philosophical hogwash, which hasn’t the slightest value since in the course of its entire development Freemasonry has contributed nothing either to science or philosophy, the author approaches the question in a Marxist manner, that is, from the class standpoint. On the basis of the documents of Freemasonry itself he has irrefutably demonstrated its imperialist, reactionary and demoralizing role”. [2]

“Bailly’s pamphlet is, incidentally, the best proof of the fact that in contrast to all other factions and groups our comrades know how to approach a complex problem as proletarian revolutionists. Even the minor fact that Nikolitch’s pamphlet, hollow and loaded with bourgeois sentimentality, is very well printed while Bailly’s serious work is mimeographed illustrates well enough the social position of centrist and revolutionary ideas”. Trotskyism and the PSOP, Leon Trotsky, 1939.

Freemasons today would have it that Trotskys connection to freemasonry was obscure see:

Trotsky on Freemasonry
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/public_percep ... otsky.html

Nothing could be further from the truth. Take the time to confirm the information in the writings in these pages and collate it with Anthony Suttons information on Trotsky in “The Bolshevics and Wall street” and the overall picture of MASONIC FUCKERY should be obvious to all but the most deluded idiots.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:30 pm

It would be very easy to highlight the numerous mistakes in Alex Jones politics and propagandising, but at this stage only Alex Jones and Alan Watt are providing anything that might resemble leadership no matter how flawed. Once all the material labeled under the banner of ‘new world order research’ is sifted carefully, there are very few besides Alan Watt and Alex Jones who talk any sense.

I have listened to Alex for many years and he has consistently attacked the high Masonic elite. Though Jones methods are crude, unmistakedly American, and opportunist at times, he has continued to gain publicity and continues to push his own blend of antifascist politics. It is for this reason that I am now writing in Alex’s defence following his outrageous and treacherous smearing in ‘Psychology Today’, the pulp-psychology journal. John Gartner is a very brave man putting his name next to this vile and hateful concoction of lies, but a very poor psychologist.

The sycophant tells us:

“we are all conspiracy theorists to some degree. We’re all hardwired to find patters in our environment, particularly those that might represent a threat to us. And when things go wrong, we find ourselves searching for what, or who, is behind it”.

From this very reasonable statement G-artner launches into “conspiracy theorists” making full use of the sensationalism of the phrase. “Conspiracy theorists” are depicted as powerless loners as though powerlessness is an affliction suffered by a small percentage of the population, and not the vast majority! Gartner obviously regards sanity as submission to fascism, and resistance as a mental defect. Gartner gives no definition of a sound frame of mind in his ‘article’ but alludes to it through his feeble questionnaire.

According to Gartner a sound frame of mind would consist of believing:


1 For the most part, government does not serve the interests of a few organized groups, such as business, and is concerned about the needs of people like myself.
2 I do not have trouble doing what I want to do in the world today.
3 It is not difficult for people like myself to have influence in public affairs.
4 We do not live in a pretty irrational and disordered world.


I personally would consider an individual with such beliefs as seriously mentally derranged. I would consider a poor person who could hold such beliefs as dangerously deluded or an Obama supporter - both a considerably greater ‘danger to society’ than the very worst type of kool-aid drinking, tinfoil hat wearing, reptilian-ufo believer.

Under such a definition of a sound frame of mind, anyone with a grudge against the system could be depicted as mentally ill, and anarchists in particular would fare very badly. Gartner regards ‘happy face fascism’ as the norm. He attempts to rubbish Jones work on exposing organized child kidnapping, Eugenics and FEMA concentration camps without having the nerve or decency to mention the sources and documents Jones very meticulously quotes.

Simultaneously displaying his lack of regard for factual accuracy and his willingness to prostitute himself to Obama’s Nazi cause, the social traitor Gartner produces the worst kind of slander.

Such cretinous smearing of Jones follows in the wake of Jones highly effective Obama Joker campaign. Jones Obama Joker campaign was a masterstroke of situationist propaganda.

Using a highly provocative image of Obama emblazoned with the simple slogans “Socialism” “Fascism” “New World Order” Jones managed to strike a minor bullseye at the dictator Obama. The strength of Jones campaign is a direct result of its employment of ‘anarchist’ methods of un-centralised propaganda. Many anarchists have slated Alex Jones, but his Obama Joker campaign is a very clear display that Jones is teaching the anarchists how to be anarchists again.

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Jones use of the slogan ‘socialism’ to accompany the Obama image can only be objected to by those who are seriously lost in the past. ‘Socialism’ has only ever meant tyranny in the same way “Communism” has only ever meant tyranny. To take the best of the theories of Marxists, Socialists and Anarchists, and use them in the United Front against fascism is no crime and no shame, but we must also recognize the folly of advancing conceptions which bear the title ‘socialist’ or ‘communist’. To abandon the use of such terms as ‘socialist’ is not to abandon the idea of revolution or ‘anarchism’ as the reader may perceive it but to abandon dogmas which have only ever brought slavery upon the population.

No matter what ones opinion of Jones it is obvious his smearing is serving as a test case. If they are able to isolate and defeat Alex Jones easily it will be a very simple matter to isolate and defeat other vocal opponents of the New World Order. Therfore it is of the utmost importance to support Alex Jones.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:43 pm

A very beautiful Zappa guitar solo from 1982, strictly for entertainment purposes.

St.Etienne (Jazz From Hell) St.Etienne,France May 1982


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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby AndyMalroes » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:18 pm

‘Socialism’ has only ever meant tyranny in the same way “Communism” has only ever meant tyranny.

Seriously? Are you retarded?
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:46 am

Melrose you little dick, keep your teen angst ridden, pork and kangeroo-burger fuelled idiocy off my thread.

Mouthing-off again without the slightest clue what you are talking about. You havnt the slightest clue about the history and philosophy of Anarchism, Socialism or Communism yet you keep chiming in with your imbecilic one liners - FUCK OFF, and get back to tending your koala bears arse you cretin.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby thelastindividual » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:56 am

Andy isn't wrong Zappa YOU'RE wrong

Socialism is the movement that seeks to give to the worker the only possible reward for his labour i.e the product thereof. Such an ideal can never be acheived through the top down capitalist mode of production so socialism seeks to replace these with worker controlled organisations, it is by no definition of the word tyranny, tyranny. The capitalist ideal of a group of elites controlling the wages of the workforce and exploiting them is tyranny
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby frankzappa » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:11 am

Keep wanking yourselves off. Youre yet another teenie with nothing to say and spouting off without thinking. Why dont you go and live in post soviet Russia, 'socialist' cuba or any other 'communist' hellhole. Pathetic small minded little pol-pots in the making you are. You are happy to disown the word 'nazi' convieniently ignoring Hitlers National Socialism equated the word Socialism with fascism as much as Stalin and Lenin did in Russia, as did any other of number of other dictators. Using the word 'socialist' gives anarchists a common purpose with the worst kind of fascists.

But I forgot. As long as youre bumming each other with your gibberish nothing else matters.
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Re: Freemasonry and anarchism

Postby thelastindividual » Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:26 am

If you had studied history you would know that Hitler's 'national socialism' was nothing like socialism at all in anything but name (I believe germany actually had communist purges)

Soviet russia was neither communist nor socialist, it was a state capitalist hell of beuracracy

And by the way - Catalonia

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