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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:43 pm

jesus fuck. is that fucker still quoting dictionaries? someone please kill me. i salute those of you with a greater threshold for pain than i have.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:35 pm

Tom Palven wrote:Fuck the dictionaries. Fuck defining our terms.


non sequitur. fuck the dictionaries; let's define our own terms. what's really sad is that nobody disagrees with your definition of anarchism. it does mean no rulers. the problem is that you're incapable of expanding that concept beyond 'da gubmint' bogeyman, whereas most anarchists see the state as just one expression of hierarchy, of which all expressions constitute a form of rule to be opposed. when there's a class of people who own the planet, and the rest of us must grovel at their doorstep for our sustenance, as proudhon put it, then they are in fact our rulers -- even if we 'voluntarily' contract to labor for them or pay them for the use of 'their' resources.

that's the disconnect between us. in short: expand your mind.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:45 pm

damnit tom, 'the rule' in that case means 'the conception'. don't be so thick. commies don't advocate imposing the conception of 'from each... to each' on people. those of us who want to live in such communities will abide by it because we agree with it.

i bet it'd be interesting to play cards with tom. 'wait, there are *rules*?!?! which one of you is going to impose those rules on me?!' as he starts checking behind the furniture for armed cheka agents.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Jawn Disease » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:43 pm

Fuck man, Tom is just relating his ideas based on his very American, very ignorant conception of what these terms mean. He just hasn't thought about it the way that perhaps you and I have. He's not a monster man hahaha he just doesn't understand a couple things we take for granted.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby patrickhenry » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:05 pm

I appreciate your efforts at a civil discussion, but I've developed this subtle, no doubt mistakenly paranoid, feeling that I'm not generally welcome here, and it's wearisome, so this is truly my last post.
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DAMN! This stuff really works!!!!! :shock:
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby fight_war_not_wars » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:39 pm

patrickhenry wrote:
I appreciate your efforts at a civil discussion, but I've developed this subtle, no doubt mistakenly paranoid, feeling that I'm not generally welcome here, and it's wearisome, so this is truly my last post.
Cheers
DAMN! This stuff really works!!!!! :shock:


:lol: Nice one!
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:44 pm

Tom Palven wrote:I've developed this subtle, no doubt mistakenly paranoid, feeling that I'm not generally welcome here, and it's wearisome, so this is truly my last post.


a lie, of course. in a few day's there'll be a new member, misinterpreting anarchism and strawmanning communism, and we'll know noleaders/howard has returned.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby patrickhenry » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:59 pm

Do you think it's some wierd reincarnation thing goin on??? :shock: :lol: I just imagine shooting those ducks at the carnival. drop one and another pops up 8)
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:50 pm

in case tom palven is still lurking, or for anyone else with the insufferable habit of palming off onto the dictionary the responsibility of explaining what they mean by what they say, i wanted to share this video i just found:



the relevant bits are from 1:58-2:30 & 4:17-4:50

come on, you lazy bastards! anyone can stand to watch 1:05 worth of video.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby Marxist » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:24 pm

Nice job guys.

One question, in teh anarchy what if someone wants to hire people and others want to work for him?
You may have answered this already but i can't be bothered to read through the whole thread and it would greatly benefit my understanding of anarchism.
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby thelastindividual » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:35 pm

Marxist wrote:Nice job guys.

One question, in teh anarchy what if someone wants to hire people and others want to work for him?
You may have answered this already but i can't be bothered to read through the whole thread and it would greatly benefit my understanding of anarchism.


Why would anyone want to work for a boss if they had been economically emancipated and all their needs were being met already?
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby fight_war_not_wars » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:18 pm

Marxist wrote:Nice job guys.

One question, in teh anarchy what if someone wants to hire people and others want to work for him?
You may have answered this already but i can't be bothered to read through the whole thread and it would greatly benefit my understanding of anarchism.


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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby patrickhenry » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:24 pm

It's called endurance my friend :lol:
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Re: Hi, noob to forum, also noob to anarchism

Postby fight_war_not_wars » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:50 am

patrickhenry wrote:It's called endurance my friend :lol:

lol Yeah..

By the way, I just found the perfect picture for Tom, of course he left (thank goodness), so it's a few days too late.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_srKLQ9PUso4/S ... /moron.jpg
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