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Re: Race

Postby kras » Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:10 am

"there are other issues - including sexism, racism, and homophobia - that I'm interested in opposing as well. Not everything is about capitalism and the state." <br> <br>Dont know why but my last post disapeard (moderator?). In my opinion racism was formed by white CAPITALISTS and GOVERNMENTS who wanted to get some cash from slavery work, etc. I belive that after liquidation of our three enemies (state, capitalism and church) those patologies like sexism, racism or homophobia will be absolute and after a while they will just disapear. Ofcourse if I see someone who is aggressive toward a gay I will defend those oppressed - I'm against oppression of all kind (exept hierarchy inside family) but I think that social problems about sex or sexualism or race or whatever exist because of homophobic church, sexist state and racist capitalism.
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Re: Race

Postby Kevehs » Wed Apr 30, 2003 1:34 pm

[color=green] Dont know why but my last post disapeard (moderator?). </font color=green> <br> <br>Far more likely a mistake on your part or a mess up in the server/program. Pom does not actively moderate this forum.
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Re: Race

Postby Man » Fri May 02, 2003 10:21 am

Please read my other posts. <br> <br>I couldn't give a shit about race. I don't believe in it. <br> <br>I don't blame everything on all white people, but you might note that capitalist society is run by (to quote MM) stupid white men, but there you go. <br> <br>Race is a concept. That's all.
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Re: Race

Postby Cal_Ungovernable » Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:47 pm

[color=blue]I'm against oppression of all kind (except hierarchy inside family)</font color=blue> <br> <br>Kras, just in case you didn't know, the family is where most authoritarian social relationships start. The ruling class creates the foundation of the "nuclear family" by means of media brainwashing; i.e. TV shows &amp; politicians that promote "family values"--patriotism, nationalism, racism, patriarchy, sexism, homophobia/heterosexism, classism, apolitical behavior, passive submission to authority, etc. As a 15 year old anarchist, I know from experience that dictatorial behavior of ones elders (parents/guardians/relatives) can cause the children to develop coercive tendencies. In the past, my dad was very emotionally (and sometimes physically!) abusive towards me, causing me in turn to treat my younger siblings like shit. Fortunately, I've been able to control my temper and stop my coercive behavior, thanks to self-discipline and learning about anarchism. Therefore, I think that the abolition of the nuclear, hierarchical family and the practice of radical child rearing are as important as the abolition of other hierarchical institutions. <br>
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Re: Race

Postby Guest » Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:23 am

having read down this thread, I'm reminded of a guy named Jensen, who had the audacity to remark that black people were intellectually inferior to whites, on the basis of intelligence tests.Intelligence tests, it has been since found, are one of the most culturally biased tools in existance, not only in language but also in the test items themselves. It was suggested that the items were irrelevant to black children's knowledge, having been raised not to answer set "fact" questions, but more thoughtful 'real' questions where there was no fixed answer. <br> <br> I also point you to findings of the Kpelle tribe, who, in a test item that required them to goup object, got the answer "Wrong". <br> <br> Instead of grouping the objects by categor such as oranges, apples and potatoes togethe, they grouped them by function eg the orange with the knife, the hoe with the potato. When they were told how westerners thought they should be grouped, they argued their way was much more intelligent <br> The point I am trying to make is the yes, there is race. BUT differences in culture are just that DIFFERENT - one is neither inferior or superior, merely an alternative.
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Re: Whites and Blacks, One-Hundred Facts

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:19 pm

Race is definitely a scientific concept. I suggest you read the following article: http://www.yorksnf.com/100q.html. The sections on the Negro brain and his intelligence are particularly interesting.
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Re: Whites and Blacks, One-Hundred Facts

Postby Yhcrana » Tue Jun 24, 2003 1:52 pm

Fuck you, Nazi! You're not welcome here!
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Re: Whites and Blacks, One-Hundred Facts

Postby HubertHH » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:45 pm

I love the crime section. Obviously, a black person is programmed to commit crime, doesn't matter if they're rich or poor or whatever. <br> <br>It's incredible that when they're the victims of racism, like here: <br> <br>[color=blue] FACT #34: Approximately 50% of all Black males will be arrested and charged with a serious felony during their lifetime. </font color=blue> <br> <br>It's used as evidence to show how blacks are naturally dangerous, not how whites are inclined to treat them like shit.
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Re: Whites and Blacks, One-Hundred Facts

Postby Morpheus » Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:25 pm

Blatantly ahistorical.
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Re: Whites and Blacks, One-Hundred Facts

Postby Kevehs » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:28 pm

Everyone already did a great job of expressing just how vile the ideas you are refering to are, but it is important to note that they are also without any intellectual merit at all. <br> <br>Please explain to me how you have developed a baseline for determining who is or is not a "negro." After all, that much is absolutely essential before you can begin to compare the "negro" to the "not negro." <br> <br> <br>Oh, and BTW - Your putrid white supremacist crap is about the lowest kind of human fanaticism imaginable. Do us all a favor and help out "your" race by eliminating yourself asap.
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Re: Race

Postby skatepunk1966 » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:32 pm

The most well know theroy is that we all decended from black people in Africa. How? Well, black people have albinos, they got tans, evolved and became cacuasians. Blacks in Asia were under the sun alot and developed slanted eyes as protection. I personally dont belive in any race except the HUMAN race.
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Re: Race

Postby Man » Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:47 pm

That Machiavelli quote is a lie. <br>
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Re: Race

Postby Guest » Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:50 pm

Indeed that quote is a lie,how can he refer to himself as an anarchist with a quote like that?
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Re: Race

Postby Yhcrana » Wed Jun 25, 2003 5:06 pm

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr><p>how can he refer to himself as an anarchist with a quote like that?<p><hr></blockquote> <br> <br>Assuming he does refer to himself as an anarchist.
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Re: Race

Postby Guest » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:14 pm

He does,he made this sudden change from being a troll to an "anarchist"
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